CTV & Global News are Pure Filth, CBC Needs to be Defunded

[Moonbox]

I mean sure.  I'm okay with defunding the CBC, but not because a bunch of raving goons get angry about what it says. 

[Michael Hardner]

31 minutes ago, Moonbox said:

I mean sure.  I'm okay with defunding the CBC, but not because a bunch of raving goons get angry about what it says. 

They would replace it with a retarded YouTube channel spouting stuff that agrees with them.

And don't think they wouldn't censor.  I got kicked off my Yellow Vests groups because the sensitives got easily offended when I would challenge them on the lies from Quiggin et. al.

We should just agree that the new populist movement is unworthy of saving and start ignoring them... 

[Moonbox]

Pretty much.  It's sort of hard here because they drown the forum in banal ranting but maybe they'll tire themselves out.  

[eyeball]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

They would replace it with a retarded YouTube channel spouting stuff that agrees with them.

AFAIC the suggestions we defund the cbc are dangerous and need to be suppressed so that resistance will be futile forever.

[eyeball]

17 hours ago, Moonbox said:

This is mind-warping silliness.  

Or, its the smartest guy on the Internet.

[ironstone]

20 hours ago, Aristides said:

Ya, established news sources with actual addresses and real people presenting stories is so phony. Put your trust in the internet where no one is identifiable or accountable and then accuse others of being manipulated.

If the established news organizations are so wonderful, trusted and reliable then why are so many people going to other news sources? Lying by omission is a common problem with the established outlets. Think of  Hunter Biden's laptops, most of them refused to mention it although it was real. A deranged black guy drives his vehicle into a parade , killing people. It's reported as just an SUV slams into crowd. An Antifa sympathizer drives into protesters against pandemic measures, the CBC does not mention the radical views of the driver. Global, CTV and the CBC aren't all that different from CNN.

They are talking about some of the story, but not the whole story because it does not fit the progressive narrative. The major Canadian newspapers aren't much better hence the big decline in circulation.

From established tv and newspapers we mostly hear opinion much more than just plain facts.

This is one of the sites I like. For example, the MSM in Canada report about a nazi flag being flown at the trucker protest, but this site actually wants to identify the man with the flag! Is the CBC searching for that guy's identity? 

True North | Breaking Canadian News and Opinion (tnc.news)

They do a much better  job of reporting the news than the CBC with a pittance of a budget.

[Faramir]

1 hour ago, ironstone said:

If the established news organizations are so wonderful, trusted and reliable then why are so many people going to other news sources? Lying by omission is a common problem with the established outlets. Think of  Hunter Biden's laptops, most of them refused to mention it although it was real. A deranged black guy drives his vehicle into a parade , killing people. It's reported as just an SUV slams into crowd. An Antifa sympathizer drives into protesters against pandemic measures, the CBC does not mention the radical views of the driver. Global, CTV and the CBC aren't all that different from CNN.

They are talking about some of the story, but not the whole story because it does not fit the progressive narrative. The major Canadian newspapers aren't much better hence the big decline in circulation.

From established tv and newspapers we mostly hear opinion much more than just plain facts.

This is one of the sites I like. For example, the MSM in Canada report about a nazi flag being flown at the trucker protest, but this site actually wants to identify the man with the flag! Is the CBC searching for that guy's identity? 

True North | Breaking Canadian News and Opinion (tnc.news)

They do a much better  job of reporting the news than the CBC with a pittance of a budget.

Yup and the media no longer has accountability.  Maybe in fictional accounts it does.  They are serious fact checkers who never post an article without a good source.  LOL.  Yeah right.

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, Moonbox said:

Nope.  A fact isn't just whatever you're thinking at the moment.  You posted no facts.  You posted a bunch of angry, raving hyperbole along with a bunch of links.  For whatever reason, you seem to think that if you just repeat the same angry nonsense over and over, and if you use angry enough language, that somehow makes your opinions more valid.  It does the opposite.  It makes you look petulant and inarticulate.  

I posted links to articles from all of those media outlets which were a mix of complete mischaracterizations and lies about what was happening in Ottawa.

There are no Freedom Truckers carrying Nazi flags/symbols, at all. Dolts in the MSM and on this site keep claiming that there are, but no one has any video or photos of it that haven't been debunked. Those articles I linked to were 100% pure bullshit and they were written that way to try to back Trudeau's hate speech when he said that "anti-vaxers [sic] are very often racists and misogynists". 

If you think that what I wrote was wrong then find some pictures tat back their claims. 

Can I just say that "Moonbox's family are mostly racists and misogynists" without backing that up with substantial evidence? No, that would be wrong, but as bad as that would be for a random internet poster, it's much worse for the MSM to engage in that sort of hate speech. 

If you think I'm wrong, provide some proof of the symbols in question or stfu and stew on it. IDGAF about your worthless opinion. Only facts matter, and the burden of proof is on the person making the positive claim. The MSM's lofty, hateful claims are almost 100% unsubstantiated. That's appalling. You shouldn't be satisfied with that.

[Aristides]

3 hours ago, ironstone said:

If the established news organizations are so wonderful, trusted and reliable then why are so many people going to other news sources? Lying by omission is a common problem with the established outlets. Think of  Hunter Biden's laptops, most of them refused to mention it although it was real. A deranged black guy drives his vehicle into a parade , killing people. It's reported as just an SUV slams into crowd. An Antifa sympathizer drives into protesters against pandemic measures, the CBC does not mention the radical views of the driver. Global, CTV and the CBC aren't all that different from CNN.

They are talking about some of the story, but not the whole story because it does not fit the progressive narrative. The major Canadian newspapers aren't much better hence the big decline in circulation.

From established tv and newspapers we mostly hear opinion much more than just plain facts.

This is one of the sites I like. For example, the MSM in Canada report about a nazi flag being flown at the trucker protest, but this site actually wants to identify the man with the flag! Is the CBC searching for that guy's identity? 

True North | Breaking Canadian News and Opinion (tnc.news)

They do a much better  job of reporting the news than the CBC with a pittance of a budget.

Because they are all looking for an echo chamber and the net is happy to oblige.

[Nexii]

Only 36% of Gen Z & Millennials trust the mainstream media as per a recent Leger poll. That's a really bad score.

What is the cause of MSM quality going down? Is it because they feel the need to sensationalize for the Internet audience? Or are they captive to government funding? Or are they overloaded with too many left to extreme-left journalists to have a balanced view? All of these to some degree, or something else? It's not easy to tell looking from the outside, but for sure it's ailing.

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, Aristides said:

Because they are all looking for an echo chamber and the net is happy to oblige.

FYI the net is the exact opposite of an echo chamber.

This site is part of the internet, and it's rife with MSM disinformation. There are people here who still believe in Russian collusion, Ukrainian collusion, and who don't think that our PM is guilty of ethics breaches or inciting hatred.

I'll be shocked of there isn't a Japanese soldier lurking somewhere who thinks that WWII is still on. 

[WestCanMan]

3 minutes ago, Nexii said:

Only 36% of Gen Z & Millennials trust the mainstream media as per a recent Leger poll. That's a really bad score.

The demise of CNN is a perfect example of that.

They went all-in with Russian collusion and covid fear porn, and in hindsight, it seems as though they've been on a mission to destroy their own credibility. They haven't had over 1M viewers for a regularly scheduled program for months now. 

Canadians aren't as smart as Americans though, faith in our MSM still remains far too strong: https://globalnews.ca/news/8329274/canadians-conspiracy-theories-trust-institutions-poll/

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New polling conducted for Elections Canada suggested that Canadians have strong confidence in institutions like the elections agency (78 per cent), the police (74 per cent), the mainstream media (54 per cent) 

Maybe Goebbels is conceding that confidence in the MSM is far higher than it should be at 54%. If that's the case then they're right. It's hard not to think how stupid that 54% of the population is though. There must be 20M deeds to the Golden Gate Bridge floating around this country. 

[ironstone]

I wouldn't shed any tears if the CBC was defunded but it will never happen. But for the size of their taxpayer funded budget it's not a lot of bang for the buck. The whole point is to attract as big an audience as they can to push their politically correct narrative.

CBC viewership hits record lows as subsidies hit record highs - The Western Standard (westernstandardonline.com)

The Candice Malcolm Show: CBC’s ratings plummet but still receive more tax dollars than ever! | True North (tnc.news)

I can't say the CBC is 100% bad but it's not worth the 1.2 billion plus it gets from us.

[WestCanMan]

https://globalnews.ca/news/8610727/ipsos-poll-trucker-convoy-support-ottawa-canada/

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An Ipsos poll published Thursday and conducted exclusively for Global News showed that nearly 46 per cent of Canadians say they “may not agree with everything” the trucker convoy says or does, but the frustration of protesters is “legitimate and worthy” of sympathy.

This proves that Canadians don't have faith in Goebbels, because if they did then 90% of us would be fanatically opposed to the Freedom Convoy, based on Goebbels characterization of them. 

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On the other hand, 54 per cent of Canadians who participated in this poll believe that people taking part in the protests do not “deserve any of our sympathy”

That's a bit of a harsh question to ask, and 54% of people feeling that strongly is troubling. "Don't deserve any of our sympathy"???? FFS people, you really suck.

By contrast, Goebbels' poll about BLM asked this: https://globalnews.ca/news/7356841/black-lives-matter-canada-poll/

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Only 33 per cent of Canadians polled reported feeling negatively about the movement, compared to 45 per cent of Americans.

LMAO!

People were getting murdered by BLMers, and they were torching entire neighbourhoods. How could only 33% of people "feel negatively" about that? ?

Here's how Goebbels talked about 4 black people who kidnapped and tortured a mentally handicapped teenager: https://globalnews.ca/news/3241388/chicago-facebook-video-beating-hate-crimes/

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Four black people charged with a hate crime in an attack on a white mentally disabled man that was shown live on Facebook have pleaded not guilty.

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On the video, the suspects are seen beating the schizophrenic victim and can be heard taunting him and shouting profanities against white people and then-President-elect Donald Trump.

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The four also face aggravated kidnapping and other charges.

Is it just me or do these guys seem a bit nicer than the truckers? If you go by the harshness of the language employed against them by Goebbels, the truckers must be far worse. 

FWIW, none of what they did is speculation, they live-streamed their attack because for some reason (that has nothing to do with Obama or BLM supporting violence) they thought it was cool.

Here's a better description than Goebbels gave: https://www.foxnews.com/us/hate-crime-charges-filed-in-chicago-beating-streamed-on-facebook-live

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 The video showed him cowering in a corner while someone yelled "F--- white people!" and "F--- Donald Trump!" At one point, the man was held at knifepoint and told to curse the president-elect.

The video also showed the man being kicked and hit repeatedly, while his scalp was cut. The group apparently forced him to drink water from a toilet.

Goebbels SUCKS. Their glossing-over of this was inexcusable. You have to be retarded to watch that shit and think it's news. 

[eyeball]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Only facts matter, and the burden of proof is on the person making the positive claim.

Are you quite certain, can you post a link to something that proves this? I have it on pretty good authority this is false.  Maybe it's just a theory you heard.

[Aristides]

3 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

FYI the net is the exact opposite of an echo chamber.

This site is part of the internet, and it's rife with MSM disinformation. There are people here who still believe in Russian collusion, Ukrainian collusion, and who don't think that our PM is guilty of ethics breaches or inciting hatred.

I'll be shocked of there isn't a Japanese soldier lurking somewhere who thinks that WWII is still on. 

It's where people go to find their echo chamber. Once in they don't leave.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Are you quite certain, can you post a link to something that proves this? I have it on pretty good authority this is false.  Maybe it's just a theory you heard.

You need to understand the difference between saying "Michael Jackson was popular" and "These people were walking around displaying swastikas". 

One is common knowledge, the other is a serious accusation which can easily be backed up if it's true. Learn that eyeball. 99% of people over 18 already now it, you're the last holdout.

 

So, back to the topic at hand: do you think that CTV and Goebbels don't have fuckin cameras? None of them have smart phones that can record video? Or take pictures?

How stupid do you have to be to believe that CTV and Goebbels know that all these flags are there but they didn't get it on video? 

Who's flying them eyeball? That wily, unphotographable Snuffalupagus? That dodgy-ass Easter Bunny that miraculously leaves eggs and vanishes? The Loch Ness monster? Bigfoot? Tooth Fairy? Does Santa pop out of the exhaust stacks of rigs with swastikas when there are no cameras running? UFOs? The Lucky Charms guy? Are they vampire flags which can't be seen in a mirror or on a camera? Which one is it eyeball? 

Why is it so hard for you guys to back up your extremely serious [and idiotic, as usual] accusations with A SINGLE CREDIBLE PHOTO OR VIDEO?

Am I to believe that you're liars, you're dumb AF, or that the rules of normal discourse just don't apply to you because you regurgitate leftist propaganda? It's one of the 3 eyeball, so speak up ffs. Say something factual in nature just one time. Just try it. Or even admit that the photos just aren't there but you have a strong hunch. Just do something adult in nature.  

[eyeball]

9 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

You need to understand the difference between saying "Michael Jackson was popular" and "These people were walking around displaying swastikas". 

One is common knowledge, the other is a serious accusation which can easily be backed up if it's true. Learn that eyeball. 99% of people over 18 already now it, you're the last holdout.

 

So, back to the topic at hand: do you think that CTV and Goebbels don't have fuckin cameras? None of them have smart phones that can record video? Or take pictures?

How stupid do you have to be to believe that CTV and Goebbels know that all these flags are there but they didn't get it on video? 

Who's flying them eyeball? That wily, unphotographable Snuffalupagus? That dodgy-ass Easter Bunny that miraculously leaves eggs and vanishes? The Loch Ness monster? Bigfoot? Tooth Fairy? Does Santa pop out of the exhaust stacks of rigs with swastikas when there are no cameras running? UFOs? The Lucky Charms guy? Are they vampire flags which can't be seen in a mirror or on a camera? Which one is it eyeball? 

Why is it so hard for you guys to back up your extremely serious [and idiotic, as usual] accusations with A SINGLE CREDIBLE PHOTO OR VIDEO?

Am I to believe that you're liars, you're dumb AF, or that the rules of normal discourse just don't apply to you because you regurgitate leftist propaganda? It's one of the 3 eyeball, so speak up ffs. Say something factual in nature just one time. Just try it. Or even admit that the photos just aren't there but you have a strong hunch. Just do something adult in nature.  

Something factual? Something between common knowledge and a serious accusation which can easily be backed up if it's true?

Okay, how about this?

Goebbels is dead or didn't you know that?

Edited February 12, 2022 by eyeball

[WestCanMan]

2 minutes ago, Aristides said:

It's where people go to find their echo chamber. Once in they don't leave.

FYI an echo chamber is a place where people can tell their favourite lies and post their favourite unsubstantiated accusations without ever being questioned. 

FYI echo chambers are almost exclusively run by leftists. 

Places where talking about the Biden laptop will get you banned. Where saying that it's possible that the virus came from a lab will get you banned. Where posting actual COVID stats will get you banned. Where cuomosexuality is normal, and talk of covid-positive patients being sent back to care homes doesn't exist. Where people still believe in Russian collusion and everyone is "unaware" that Hillary's lawyer and some FBI agents were indicted, demoted or fired for serious crimes crimes related to the Russian collusion witch hunt. Where Dr Ford's testimony is FACT even though she couldn't name day/month/year or location and all of her witnesses said wtf? 

Just imagine the forum without Shady, Goddess, Infidel Dog, Dog on Porch, me and a few others. You could lie and the usual leftist suspects here would just chime in and say "You're the best eyeball!"

[WestCanMan]

Just now, eyeball said:

Goebbels is dead or didn't you know that?

His spirit lives on in ur MSM.

[eyeball]

6 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

His spirit lives on in ur MSM.

My MSM only exists in your imagination.

In any case how's that link to something that substantiates your hooey about the positive claimant's burden and responsibility coming along?

   

[WestCanMan]

42 minutes ago, eyeball said:

Something factual? Something between common knowledge and a serious accusation which can easily be backed up if it's true?

Okay, how about this?

Goebbels is dead or didn't you know that?

His spirit lives on in our MSM.

 

[WestCanMan]

53 minutes ago, eyeball said:

My MSM only exists in your imagination.

In any case how's that link to something that substantiates your hooey about the positive claimant's burden and responsibility coming along?

We both know that I'm not the one who needs to substantiate a positive claim, I cleared that hurdle easily.

Everyone else in the world already knew that CNN backed the riots, but to be the bigger person I proved it to you anyways with CNN's "Fiery but mostly peaceful protests" video lol. "There were several other fires here but..... ?

Ya know what happened next? Rittenhouse proved that you can't swing a dead cat at a BLM riot without hitting a bunch of convicted felons. All 3 of them. Rosenbaum and Huber being the worst: Rosenbaum was taken in by a lady whose two sons he promptly raped (10 years jailtime), and huber was found guilty of a felony for strangulation and suffocation, domestic abuse. According to Ayana Pressley the guys who were shot "had assembled to affirm the value, dignity and worth of black lives"lol. What a f'n moron.

You walked right into that one ? Never change eyeball. 

 

Anyways, you're the one who's backing Trudeau and the MSM's accusation that there were swastikas and confederate flags at the Freedom Convoy. What could be easier than copying and pasting their treasure trove of proof of their serious claims? They must have pages and pages of photos and videos.

Post the photos. Post the videos. It's put up or shut up time. 

Edited February 12, 2022 by WestCanMan

[eyeball]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

We both know that I'm not the one who needs to substantiate a positive claim, I cleared that hurdle easily.

Everyone else in the world already knew...

Well now you just have to prove that by getting everyone to say so. Clearing that should be a snap. 

[blackbird]

Pure garbage.