Truckers: Nazis or Nazi Fighters?

[OntarioRacism2021]

The media and politicians on all sides are labeling the trucker rally as racist Nazis. I have seen a photo of a single, unidentified Nazi flag carrier. I also saw in that same group a Nazi flag associated with a  "Eff Trudeau " flag. I don't know if the purpose was to call the mandate a Nazi policy, as he had at least four flags, or if he was expressing hate.  I have no idea what the message of the flag carrier was and I don't care. 

 

https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/nazi-confederate-flags-ottawa-protest

 

It was a single, faceless, voiceless person that I saw amongst tens of thousands.  I have heard no racist rhetoric. No white supremacist organizations have formally aligned themselves in any form with the convoy.  No Nazis have been given an official platform during any of the convoy's scheduled events.  The Nazi narrative is fake news. 

The truth is that blue-collar Canadians,  like those at the rally, were the ones who defeated the Nazis in ww2 and they would be the ones to do it again,  if ever necessary.  Who do you think would be more likely to put their life on the line to fight real Nazis?  Would it be race baiting cucks like Jagmeet Singh and Justin Trudeau or the protesters at the rallies? 

Who would you rather be in a fox hole with? A protester or Singh or Trudeau? Which one would be complaining about "systemic racism " and their carbon footprint and which one would be actually killing Nazis? Give me a trucker in my raiding party over a woke politician or journalist any day.

 

Stop calling the convoy racist Nazis. Do not demonize these people. A flag, or two, with no context, should not be the focus of our politician's energy and our media.  All of Canada's media has become laughable.

I don't care if you support the mandate or not. What you should not do is spread lies about people's motives and character. These blue collar working class people are what makes Canada the greatest, safest, most tolerant, and freeest country on the planet, ever. Focus on their words and actions,  not a lone, anonymous,  flag carrier.

Edited February 5, 2022 by OntarioRacism2021

[DogOnPorch]

The man seen carrying the Nazi flag was also seen going into an expensive downtown Ottawa apartment. 

 

[Goddess]

53 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

The man seen carrying the Nazi flag was also seen going into an expensive downtown Ottawa apartment. 

 

The photographer behind him in the picture has been identified as Trudeau's personal photographer.  Also the Nazi flag guy was well away from the actual trucker protest - this was staged.

[myata]

Intolerance is the word. Intolerance to anything deviating from the party line, step either direction and one is a "Nazi" or something close. This is a problem in our society. Trucker's protest is not a the problem - it's only a test, a thermometer that brings it out into the open.

[West]

40 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The photographer behind him in the picture has been identified as Trudeau's personal photographer.  Also the Nazi flag guy was well away from the actual trucker protest - this was staged.

Just shows how low Trudeau will go to keep his failing grip on power

[DogOnPorch]

52 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The photographer behind him in the picture has been identified as Trudeau's personal photographer.  Also the Nazi flag guy was well away from the actual trucker protest - this was staged.

 

No doubt from Trudeau's father's collection.

[DogOnPorch]

13 minutes ago, West said:

Just shows how low Trudeau will go to keep his failing grip on power

 

We ain't seen nuthin' yet.

[myata]

I'd like to ask another question here. We hear from experts now must be a coincidence that a more sustainable approach is needed etc. Would we hear it if there wasn't the protest? And I don't mean now, but like, in the foreseeable future, or ever short of the virus twinkling out of existence on miraculous day (and about a year from that)?

Do we need to guess? In the summer of 2020, with cases at virtual zero we got mask mandates. The following year, cases near zero again plus vaccinations, and we have masks, vaccine mandates plus restrictions. Where and how would it go, if there was no protest? Would it be able to control itself and stop where and when mandates and restrictions are no longer needed? How would it and why? What other mechanisms of checks and accountability are left, or ever existed short of direct citizens action?

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, myata said:

I'd like to ask another question here. We hear from experts now must be a coincidence that a more sustainable approach is needed etc. Would we hear it if there wasn't the protest? And I don't mean now, but like, in the foreseeable future, or ever short of the virus twinkling out of existence on miraculous day (and about a year from that)?

Do we need to guess? In the summer of 2020, with cases at virtual zero we got mask mandates. The following year, cases near zero again plus vaccinations, and we have masks, vaccine mandates plus restrictions. Where and how would it go, if there was no protest? Would it be able to control itself and stop where and when mandates and restrictions are no longer needed? How would it and why? What other mechanisms of checks and accountability are left, or ever existed short of direct citizens action?

There is talk of inter-provincial mandates on travel.

[DogOnPorch]

1 minute ago, Goddess said:

There is talk of inter-provincial mandates on travel.

 

Right out of the Soviet Union.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, OntarioRacism2021 said:

The media and politicians on all sides are labeling the trucker rally as racist Nazis.

Maybe it has something to do with all the references to the commie, fascist Nazis that trucking rally supporters in places like this forum enjoy levelling at anything that moves outside the edge of flock.

Like some kind of political inversion layer or something? Whatever it is seems to have backfired on you.  

[myata]

If anyone watched what Putin did with protests in Russia, he didn't outlaw them right off though he could have, probably. Instead he made them de facto non existent, by pushing them out of public sight and eventually they ceased as there was no point.

Today a class action suit against protest is presented in Ontario. We need to watch it carefully as it could mark a de facto end of any essential citizen action in Canada (ironically and hypocritically, recall how liberal media went up in arms against Texas abortion law). Not some formal right enshrined somewhere. But the real de facto thing in soil and snow, on the ground.

There are no other mechanisms of checks and controls on the powers in Canada. That old private school boys could keep themselves in check via political spectacles is beyond credible, only an inept and sore parody on real democracy. The line that separates Canada from a de facto authoritarian state never been as thin. And many of my compatriots, as I have ample chance to observe these days couldn't even be bothered noticing.

Edited February 5, 2022 by myata

[CITIZEN_2015]

Truckers are neither Nazis nor Nazi fighters. 

Edited February 5, 2022 by CITIZEN_2015

[DogOnPorch]

Who?

[suds]

I've searched for these infamous nazi flags and all i'm digging up is the same nazi flag (under a f*** you know who flag) over and over again.  I have to admit i'm a little disappointed with our 'media'.

[TreeBeard]

4 hours ago, OntarioRacism2021 said:

Give me a trucker in my raiding party over a woke politician or journalist any day.

Would the trucker be complaining about all the vaccines King (the real Nazi) made us get before landing on the beaches?  

 

[TreeBeard]

4 minutes ago, suds said:

I've searched for these infamous nazi flags and all i'm digging up is the same nazi flag (under a f*** you know who flag) over and over again.  I have to admit i'm a little disappointed with our 'media'.

Did you see any pictures of the Confederate flags?  Now why would Canadian “protestors” be waving around American symbols of the losing side of a war over slavery?

[suds]

2 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

Did you see any pictures of the Confederate flags?  Now why would Canadian “protestors” be waving around American symbols of the losing side of a war over slavery?

No idea.  Maybe they consider themselves to be rebels?

[Michael Hardner]

14 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

  Now why would Canadian “protestors” be waving around American symbols of the losing side of a war over slavery?

Yeah would really have to ask them I suppose.  Be prepared for an incredibly thoughtful and balanced response of course.

 

I've been asking a lot of questions of people with regards to the convoy, for example. The response I usually get is that it's their right to do or say whatever they want. Not really an explanation of why they're doing it though.

"Why are you farting this elevator sir?" "It's my right to do so."

[TreeBeard]

14 minutes ago, suds said:

No idea.  Maybe they consider themselves to be rebels?

Maybe.  Maybe they also don’t like black people?  Could that be a possibility, especially given the particular symbol they’re using?

It’s also a possibility that the swastika was for another reason to, other than for its commonly used purpose, I suppose?   But…. Why?

Edited February 5, 2022 by TreeBeard

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

No doubt from Trudeau's father's collection.

I totally forget that Pierre used to ride around in Europe with a swastika on his motorcycle. 

[DogOnPorch]

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

I totally forget that Pierre used to ride around in Europe with a swastika on his motorcycle. 

Not Europe. WW2 Montreal. Full German uniform.

[TreeBeard]

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

The photographer behind him in the picture has been identified as Trudeau's personal photographer.  Also the Nazi flag guy was well away from the actual trucker protest - this was staged.

Why would you believe that conspiracy?

[TreeBeard]

22 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Not Europe. WW2 Montreal. Full German uniform.

Is there evidence for this, or is this sort of that Q stuff that often gets touted by fringe elements?

[DogOnPorch]

A well known incident but since you're unfamiliar with Canadian history, I'll elaborate.

PET was a bit like ol' Prince Harry. Pampered elite...the works. He wore full Prussian officer garb from WW1....both he and his friend. Spike on the top....Pickelhaube....etc. Who then drove through the city on their motorbikes to their other buddy's fraternity...shocking people as they went....it was during WW2, after-all.

Edited February 5, 2022 by DogOnPorch