Quebec introducing a Canadian first, taxing the unvaccinated.

[Zeitgeist]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

This should be quite concerning about this new mandate that all truckers on both sides of the Canadian and American border must now show proof of being vaccinated or they will not be allowed to enter either country. This is going to cause huge concerns for people in business who will not be able to get the many materials that we all use and need to get by with every day.

This is just another attack by the big pharma globalists and their sick and pathetic ilk followers, like our politicians and the media, that are trying to destroy our North American way of life. Those scum mentioned above are trying to implement the great reset or globalist communism and the way to do that is to try and destroy the economy of Canada and America and then create a more bigger globalist like government to take over everything to try and help solve the mess that they created in the first place.

The push for everyone to be vaccinated is just apart of that globalist plan because we will all be needing a vaccine passport to ever be able to do anything anymore without the mark of the beast(666). For the non vaccinated it is going to be hell on earth for them. We see that happening already. But, if one does not take their one or two booster shots they will also find themselves on the outside looking in. It's all about the vaccines and nothing more.  

The biggest mistake that the Americans ever made was to put Joey BiDumb in the White House. The buffoon is a Marxist thru and thru. The whole dam democratic party has become totally Marxist. Here in Canada, we have our own Marxist dear leader. What all these scum have in store for us all is that we have only begun to see the beginning of the demise of our rights and freedoms forever. Believe it or not. ?

You may be right.  We are now marked like cattle with digital codes.  The end is when one cannot buy, sell, or participate in the economy without such a code.  Even if you think the Bible is a book of made up morality tales, the parallels are getting too real.  We are more than government controlled commodities or inputs in a system. Our rights and freedoms are brushed aside in the name of fighting a now mild disease against which most people are vaccinated.  I’m starting to regret my vaccination because I’m realizing it didn’t make a difference to the restrictions we’re forced to live under.  In fact, more requirements will likely be added to the passports and restrictions seem to be becoming cemented into our society.  Why are we letting this happen?   Ordinary people have to start uniting and speaking out across all sectors.  It has to happen now.  

Edited January 13, 2022 by Zeitgeist

[Winston]

1 hour ago, Aristides said:

Actually too many are focusing on their pet grievances and ideologies when the real problem is the virus.

I totally agree, hence why I am asking, what is the long term plan? We need to stop this weird "hate/blame" towards groups if we want to solve the virus. 

[Army Guy]

21 hours ago, Aristides said:

You have to deal with the greatest threat to the system. Right now it is about pragmatism, not ideology.

I thought i was dealing with the greatest threat, ourselves, and how divided we have become...

[Aristides]

13 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

I thought i was dealing with the greatest threat, ourselves, and how divided we have become...

It is. Ideology has replaced pragmatism. A virus has no ideology.

[CITIZEN_2015]

I am surprised only a 60% majority of Canadians support Health tax on unvaccinated.!!!!!!!

[Aristides]

Just now, CITIZEN_2015 said:

I am surprised only a 60% majority of Canadians support Health tax on unvaccinated.!!!!!!!

I can understand it. It isn't something most Canadian's would support under normal conditions. 

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Of course there is a risk, that's why you have to hang around for 15 minutes after any shot.

Oh the tyranny. 

[Zeitgeist]

2 hours ago, Winston said:

I totally agree, hence why I am asking, what is the long term plan? We need to stop this weird "hate/blame" towards groups if we want to solve the virus. 

There’s a segment of society that enjoys sticking it to people.  They can’t fathom why people wouldn’t think as they do, but they also refuse others the right to hold a different viewpoint.  Right now these are the people who are enjoying restrictions and mandates the most, especially when the penalties are high.  Sadistic control freaks.  

[Winston]

19 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

There’s a segment of society that enjoys sticking it to people.  They can’t fathom why people wouldn’t think as they do, but they also refuse others the right to hold a different viewpoint.  Right now these are the people who are enjoying restrictions and mandates the most, especially when the penalties are high.  Sadistic control freaks.  

Yes, there always has been. I am just hoping the majority don't follow the down bad ideologies and repeat history. 

Interesting enough, in universities the majority had enough of the "sadism". 

[Yzermandius19]

10 hours ago, eyeball said:

I'm quite certain I do know actually and I'm betting you had the basics figured out by the end of kindergarten. Maybe you just forgot or allowed some doubts to creep in. 

society shouldn't run on kindergarten basics

Hobbes > Rousseau

Edited January 13, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[Yzermandius19]

8 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said:

Preserve what we can of the health care system. Being able to provide life saving surgery to women with ovarian cancer, organ transplants, etc. We are losing healthcare professionals because of the system being over whelmed.

because the health care system sucks

not the unvaccinated

[eyeball]

41 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said:

society shouldn't run on kindergarten basics

It most certainly should. Perhaps you'd prefer something more akin to a Klingon military prep school though.

Edited January 13, 2022 by eyeball

[Yzermandius19]

10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It most certainly should. Perhaps you'd prefer something more akin to a Klingon military prep school though.

there is a damn good reason kindergarteners don't run the government

even Klingons would run a better government

go home, you're drunk

Edited January 13, 2022 by Yzermandius19

[myata]

11 hours ago, dialamah said:

This is unfortunate

What is "unfortunate" here, an automatic, no consciousness needed jerk reflex in the leg on the first sound of "zwei drei" after months of incessant propaganda on all sensory channels? It's just as "unfortunate" as totally predictable, and moreover, plannable and expectable. Just ask Dr Goebbels, the expert.

Edited January 13, 2022 by myata

[myata]

And wait, why should we stop here? No, let's have more polls and exsperts on who should be taxed next it'll solve so many of our problems! Hey, who's next here? The overweight? Them, without obvious religious symbols in public?

And then, what if taxing alone isn't enough? Let's have a poll too!

What a sad hopeless place it has become in just under two years, and how little it took. But then, as they saying goes can't take out more than you put in, and how much did we invest into foundations of a strong responsible democracy based or reason, justice and accountability in decades here?

[Michael Hardner]

Can I fax the untaxinated though ? ?

[myata]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Can I fax the untaxinated though ? ?

I'm sure it was a matter of lighthearted smart humor in Germany of late 20s - early 30s, last century. Carry on. We have written and sealed guarantees that it just cannot happen here.

[DogOnPorch]

3 minutes ago, myata said:

I'm sure it was a matter of lighthearted smart humor in Germany of late 20s - early 30s, last century. Carry on. We have written and sealed guarantees that it just cannot happen here.

 

I don't like what I'm seeing in terms of "Moscow Before Christmas" sorts of blusterings from those in the cheap seats. This is how fellas like you and I ended-up squaring off with a German regiment in the Flanders circa 1914. Weren't we just in Canada? Sure...but this trench will be plenty comfortable once you de-rat the area.

 

[myata]

29 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

Sure...but this trench will be plenty comfortable once you de-rat the area.

It seems to be the in the nature (the genes?) of the species that every generation has to test and confirm it on own a..s. "Never again" just never enough.

Edited January 13, 2022 by myata

[DogOnPorch]

15 minutes ago, myata said:

It seems to the in the nature (the genes?) of the species that every generation has to test and confirm it on own a..s. "Never again" just never enough.

 

War with the Russians will be like a big picnic. Besides, they're always drunk and their weapons are junk....and other famous conclusions. 

[dialamah]

49 minutes ago, myata said:

I'm sure it was a matter of lighthearted smart humor in Germany of late 20s - early 30s, last century. Carry on. We have written and sealed guarantees that it just cannot happen here.

Speaking of history, the same sort of debates happened during smallpox outbreaks when vaccines were mandated.  There was no Germany to draw parallels to - a sad state of affairs for the anti-vax brigade - but nonetheless, once the crisis had passed, vaccination status became irrelevant.  In Germany under Hitler there was no crisis and one's Jewish roots never became irrelevant.

These attempted parallels to Germany are pure hysteria.  

[myata]

As is a matter of common knowledge, in Germany the crisis "had passed" as well. The question is of the time and cost of the "passing".

And sure there are parallels, specifically in the areas of a) proportionality b) rationale and justification and c) accountability, due process, impartial oversight etc of persecution imposed on arbitrarily selected group of population. Not noticing them, turning away and whistling, pretend that they do not exist is nothing new either and in no way negates its factual existence, nor clear parallels with the earlier unfortunate events.

[DogOnPorch]

37 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Speaking of history, the same sort of debates happened during smallpox outbreaks when vaccines were mandated.  There was no Germany to draw parallels to - a sad state of affairs for the anti-vax brigade - but nonetheless, once the crisis had passed, vaccination status became irrelevant.  In Germany under Hitler there was no crisis and one's Jewish roots never became irrelevant.

These attempted parallels to Germany are pure hysteria.  

 

The variola vaccine worked. Big difference.

[dialamah]

6 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said:

 

The variola vaccine worked. Big difference.

The point is that virtually the same objections were made when the smallpox vaccine was introduced and mandated in many places.  Montreal went so far to go door-to-door to make sure that people were either vaccinated or had the smallpox scars. 

And anyone who thinks a treatment that reduces illness/reduces hospitalizations/reduces death "doesn't work" should eschew aspirin, antibiotics, cancer treatments, insulin and monoclonal antibodies.

 

[Michael Hardner]

51 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Speaking of history, the same sort of debates happened during smallpox outbreaks when vaccines were mandated.  There was no Germany to draw parallels to - a sad state of affairs for the anti-vax brigade - but nonetheless, once the crisis had passed, vaccination status became irrelevant.  In Germany under Hitler there was no crisis and one's Jewish roots never became irrelevant.

These attempted parallels to Germany are pure hysteria.  

Excellent example.  

 

Too many people on here bleat about their "rights" and never about their responsibilities.