blackbird Posted January 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: By your numbers was she was already 3 weeks pregnant when they went to an "undisclosed "island. Where was she in the week of March 20th? anyway, we are getting away from the topic about Chinese influence in Canada. She could easily have had an 8-1/2 month pregnancy. There is nothing to prove she got pregnant in March. That argument has no merit. I don't think it is that far from the topic because it just demonstrates the Liberal PMs close ties and affection for Communist countries. Edited January 8, 2022 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 Why does the United States allow itsself to be influenced by Canadian propoganda? Lorne Green, William Shatner, Justin Bieber, David Frum, Chris Wylie, Shania Twain, Faye Wray, Louis B. Meyer, Alexander Graham Bell, Michael J. Fox, Christopher Plummer, Wayne and Schuster, "Franklin W. Dixon", a quarter of the cast of Young and the Restless, the former Avro Arrow engineers who put Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin on the moon, Peter Jennings, and about a hundred thousand other influencers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 8, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: Why does the United States allow itsself to be influenced by Canadian propoganda? Lorne Green, William Shatner, Justin Bieber, David Frum, Chris Wylie, Shania Twain, Faye Wray, Louis B. Meyer, Alexander Graham Bell, Michael J. Fox, Christopher Plummer, Wayne and Schuster, "Franklin W. Dixon", a quarter of the cast of Young and the Restless, the former Avro Arrow engineers who put Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin on the moon, Peter Jennings, and about a hundred thousand other influencers. Still don't know the difference between western democracies and Communist dictatorships I see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 1 hour ago, blackbird said: Possible new flag: I love the background colours. It looks like a rainbow over Saskatchewan. The rest is evil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 53 minutes ago, blackbird said: Still don't know the difference between western democracies and Communist dictatorships I see. How do you come up with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted January 8, 2022 Report Share Posted January 8, 2022 28 minutes ago, Queenmandy85 said: How do you come up with that? Knee-jerks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Norris Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 On 12/24/2021 at 3:48 AM, blackbird said: We are going to be further propagandized by Shun Yen this spring, an extravagant entertainment show about China before the Communist revolution. They say it is China "before the Communist revolution" but still the whole thing is to sell China as a place we should be connected to. We are not all that dumbed down. They can propagandize on a large scale like that in various cities in Canada because Canada is an open western democracy. See how far the west would get if we went to China and put on shows like that about how great the west is. You think the CCP would allow that to happen? Not a chance. It's extremely arrogant to think any countries can survive without China and their trade. America found that under trump with his silly tariffs. I think you are paranoid about china and communism. There's nothing you can do about it but to ignore and hate them won't change it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Colin Norris said: It's extremely arrogant to think any countries can survive without China and their trade. America found that under trump with his silly tariffs. I think you are paranoid about china and communism. There's nothing you can do about it but to ignore and hate them won't change it. they survived without China and their trade for a long time prior to China opening up why can't they now, because you didn't like Trump retaliating to China's tariffs? lulz Edited January 11, 2022 by Yzermandius19 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 4 hours ago, Colin Norris said: It's extremely arrogant to think any countries can survive without China and their trade. America found that under trump with his silly tariffs. I think you are paranoid about china and communism. There's nothing you can do about it but to ignore and hate them won't change it. What utter horse shit. Trump's tariffs worked great. I would support a full embargo on China. No trade...no immigration...no CCP. We need our own manufacturing base. We have everything we need and then some. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 Trump's tariffs worked great ! ? How so? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Norris Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 7 hours ago, Nationalist said: What utter horse shit. Trump's tariffs worked great. I would support a full embargo on China. No trade...no immigration...no CCP. You ate as ignorant as a stump. His tariffs immediately made agricultural exports like grain, too expensive for China to import but I don't expect you to know that. Trump must have thought they would not retaliate. He was ignorant enough to suggest the Chinese would pay all tariffs and you bought that crap then simultaneously wondered why prices had increased. You probably blamed Biden for it. You're not real smart son. What is horseshit is a complete embargo on China. Can you imagine how the exports to China would cayse agriculture to totally collapse? Of course not because you know nothing about the subject. Trumps tariffs caused hundreds of suicides amongst farming when banks foreclosed due to China not wanting their grain. You didn't know that? If course you didn't. Neither did you know 32 billion was allocated to farmers as compensation for the tariffs. Who Do you think paid for that?The Chinese? Basically, you've got no idea what you are talking about. Your whole argument is based on ignorance and hate for the Chinese. We need our own manufacturing base. We have everything we need and then some. What you need is somewhere to sell excess products like grain etc. China is the by far the largest importer if that. Trump had 4 years to bring all the jobs home and he did nothing but you all fell for that also while China laughed at his ignorance and stupidity. But the irony to say you need a manufacturing base but won't stop buying Chinese products on price alone. Thats an oxymoron. Have a glance at the current account deficit between the USA and China since trumps folly with them. Get yourself clued up before you hook into someone with more knowledge than you. Have another go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 11, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 Article for the China lovers. China accused of harassing its critics in Canada and abroad China accused of harassing its critics in Canada and abroad (msn.com) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Norris Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 11 hours ago, Yzermandius19 said: they survived without China and their trade for a long time prior to China opening up why can't they now, because you didn't like Trump retaliating to China's tariffs? lulz How ignorant are you to suggest that in this day and age? If memory serves me correctly it was the Republican Nixon who originally wanted trade with China. I remind you, it was trump who initiated the tariffs, not china. That argument is ridiculous so get some facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 11, 2022 Report Share Posted January 11, 2022 56 minutes ago, Colin Norris said: Please try to learn the quote function. It's not that complicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yzermandius19 Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 9 hours ago, Colin Norris said: How ignorant are you to suggest that in this day and age? If memory serves me correctly it was the Republican Nixon who originally wanted trade with China. I remind you, it was trump who initiated the tariffs, not china. That argument is ridiculous so get some facts. China has always had much higher tariffs on American products than vice versa Trump simply returned the favor, and the Chinese still had higher tariffs, even so China started the trade war, America simply took decades to retaliate, and not even proportionately when they finally did if you think China is the pro-free trade country of the two, you couldn't be more wrong they are vastly more protectionist than America quit projecting your own ignorance on me Edited January 12, 2022 by Yzermandius19 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 13 hours ago, Colin Norris said: How ignorant are you to suggest that in this day and age? If memory serves me correctly it was the Republican Nixon who originally wanted trade with China. I remind you, it was trump who initiated the tariffs, not china. That argument is ridiculous so get some facts. Yes Nixon...with the help of Trudeau. One left in disgrace...and Nixon had issues too. Trump initiated tariffs? Actually Bush and Obama initiated tariffs on China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 18 hours ago, Colin Norris said: Have a glance at the current account deficit between the USA and China since trumps folly with them. Get yourself clued up before you hook into someone with more knowledge than you. Have another go. Just by using the term 'Current Account Deficit' you reveal yourself as understanding economics a level above those are you discussing with. My advice is to find people who have your level of knowledge and still disagree with you - then proceed in a kind of dialectical dance to learn truths. Those who say "shut down trade with China 100%" really have no idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackbird Posted January 12, 2022 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Those who say "shut down trade with China 100%" really have no idea. Human Rights in China will never improve under Communism, so why reward it to save a buck? Edited January 12, 2022 by blackbird Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 In answer to the original question, the reason Canadians allow themselves to be overly influenced by China is because they don’t value freedom enough to resist the influence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nationalist Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 On 1/11/2022 at 11:14 AM, Michael Hardner said: Trump's tariffs worked great ! ? How so? I thought you were ignoring me. Never the less, it was Bush and the almighty mulatto POTUS who first instituted tariffs on China. Trump's tariffs were, and still are since Biden has not rescinded them, hurting China financially. I understand now China is having a real estate crisis. They've apparently built too many condos. What a shame. Be that as it is... https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trumps-tariffs-on-china-will-benefit-america-and-are-long-overdue China has been robbing America, and indeed the entire Western World, ever since Clinton got them into the WTO. "Well done Bill...ya self-serving child molester". So...Mr. Faux Conservative...since you apparently want to protect China, and play in the sandbox with all the little Globalists trying to destroy nationhood, may I suggest you move to Taiwan? I understand the Chinese are on their way there to save the Taiwanese from the evils of freedom and individuality. It would be great! Everyone with the same cloths, no money to worry about, and hey...every once in a while, you might even get to watch one of those evil freedom-loving bastards...get run over by a tank. You'd love it...trust me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 41 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: they don’t value freedom enough to resist the influence. So show you value freedom by banning any touring Chinese circus ? Okaaay. What better way to show you're insecure about freedom of speech than to ban people who oppose you. Cancel culture, again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeitgeist Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 58 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: So show you value freedom by banning any touring Chinese circus ? Okaaay. What better way to show you're insecure about freedom of speech than to ban people who oppose you. Cancel culture, again. I’m not proposing banning anyone or their speech. I’m opposed to copying totalitarian policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 13 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: I’m not proposing banning anyone or their speech. I’m opposed to copying totalitarian policy. Nice and vague. See the OP - its about this: https://www.shenyunperformingarts.org/ What do you propose to do about a touring performance troupe ? How do we "resist" as you point out ? I'm asking this honestly - I don't doubt your response could be reasonable but just trying to frame with the oP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Norris Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Just by using the term 'Current Account Deficit' you reveal yourself as understanding economics a level above those are you discussing with. My advice is to find people who have your level of knowledge and still disagree with you - then proceed in a kind of dialectical dance to learn truths. Those who say "shut down trade with China 100%" really have no idea. My terminology is accurate and I challenge them to prove otherwise. It's not hard to appear more intelligent than most of these. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin Norris Posted January 12, 2022 Report Share Posted January 12, 2022 9 hours ago, Nationalist said: Yes Nixon...with the help of Trudeau. One left in disgrace...and Nixon had issues too. Trump initiated tariffs? Actually Bush and Obama initiated tariffs on China. It was trump who initiated the tariffs I speak of during his term. It proved to be an outragous ignorant foolish attempt to punish them for the current account deficit. But he was taking his riding instructions from the not so intelligent peanut gallery who wound him up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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