Panic, Ignorance, Shut Up Already

Dougie93 · March 26, 2020

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

No no no no...the boonies are going to turn into the boomies when the dust settles and remoteness isolation and distantness is evaluated the way water frontage is. And who needs that steenkin rising sea levels anyway?

I just call it the boonies because I was raised in downtown Toronto

It's not really the boonies in Wellington County

This was just where the land was still undervalued, with Milton as the border of the GTA

Now things are expensive here, the GTA prices arrives here in the last five years, doubling the price of my property, although I'm not looking to sell, this a dream home for me

Dougie93 · March 26, 2020

That being said, this exact scenario where the Black Sawn was going to come and Toronto was not going to be the place to be, was all part of the plan

This property is nice, but the thought was that this would be a place where we could hunker down and never need to leave, if the shit hit the fan

eyeball · March 26, 2020

20 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I just call it the boonies because I was raised in downtown Toronto

I recall riding my bicycle from Yonge and Rosedale up to the boonies in Hog's Hollow. I guess these days you can take the subway up to Barrie.

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It's not really the boonies in Wellington County

This was just where the land was still undervalued, with Milton as the border of the GTA

Now things are expensive here, the GTA prices arrives here in the last five years, doubling the price of my property, although I'm not looking to sell, this a dream home for me.

Its the bonafide boonies here and the 2 acres we got 35 years ago is worth 40 times as much today. It seems ridiculous but it is what it is. I've not been looking to sell either but goddamn I could by a lot of boat for what I could sell this place for. Probably have enough left over for a berth in False Creek and a flop in Yaletown...maybe after the dust settles. As for rising sea levels then? Pfffhhht.

Edited March 26, 2020 by eyeball

Dougie93 · March 26, 2020

1 minute ago, eyeball said:

I recall riding my bicycle from Yonge and Rosedale up to the boonies in Hog's Hollow. I guess these days you can take the subway up to Barrie.

Its the bonafide boonies here and the 2 acres we got 35 years ago is worth 40 times as much today. It seems ridiculous but it is what it is. I've not been looking to sell either but goddamn I could by a lot of boat for what I could sell this place for. Probably have enough left over for a berth in False Creek and a flop in Yaletown...maybe after the dust settles.

Yeah, my parents moved us to Toronto in 78' Glenn Gould's Toronto the Good

My wife is not a Toronto girl, she's from Halton, so she refused to live in Toronto long term

By this point Toronto was getting annoying anyways, and you don't get the bang for your buck, everybody is house poor, even the rich

Also it's a boom & bust world and the booms & busts are getting bigger, so after the last one I decided to move out of the dense urban jungle

Moonbox · March 26, 2020

16 hours ago, Argus said:

So it turns out China is only reporting positive tests which have symptoms. It's not reporting the positive tests of those who feel fine.

I know I'm shocked - SHOCKED to discover China under-reporting the number of people with the disease. I'm sure everyone else is too.

Yeah I've been trying to tell everyone this for the last couple of weeks. Given their initial cover up and their flexibility with the truth, I don't think we can trust a word they say on this matter. Nobody else has managed to just shut the virus down cold-turkey, so how has this disaster of a government managed to stop it all at 81,000 cases? Not likely.

There's no doubt that EVERYONE's numbers are underestimating the number of people infected. This virus doesn't have a 14% mortality rate. If we're to believe the 1-3% mortality rate instead, we're underestimating the number of infected by at least 10x.

dialamah · March 26, 2020

6 hours ago, Moonbox said:

There's no doubt that EVERYONE's numbers are underestimating the number of people infected. This virus doesn't have a 14% mortality rate. If we're to believe the 1-3% mortality rate instead, we're underestimating the number of infected by at least

My sister and her partner (live in Vancouver) were very ill in January with the symptoms cv-19 but they were never tested for it; they just figured it was the worst flu of their lives till info about covid came out. Probably never know for sure if it was covid, but I've no doubt it was here well before the first cases on the news.

Edited March 26, 2020 by dialamah

Rue · March 26, 2020

3 hours ago, dialamah said:

My sister and her partner (live in Vancouver) were very ill in January with the symptoms cv-19 but they were never tested for it; they just figured it was the worst flu of their lives till info about covid came out. Probably never know for sure if it was covid, but I've no doubt it was here well before the first cases on the news.

Me too I got sick like a lot of others at that time and I never get the flu. It lasted a day. I think you are right but I have no proof. Hey Di I am willing to do my part I just do not think long term we can keep everyone home. I hate that I can not have kids visiting my dogs anymore and calling me baldy.

Edited March 26, 2020 by Rue

Dougie93 · March 26, 2020

13 minutes ago, Rue said:

Me too I got sick like a lot of others at that time and I never get the flu. It lasted a day. I think you are right but I have no proof. Hey Di I am willing to do my part I just do not think long term we can keep everyone home. I hate that I can not have kids visiting my dogs anymore and calling me baldy.

There a multiple strains, and you can catch them over and over, you don't have immunity even if you've had it already, and people are still spreading new virus

The crisis is not going to be over until there is a safe & effective vaccine.

Army Guy · March 27, 2020

44 minutes ago, Rue said:

Me too I got sick like a lot of others at that time and I never get the flu. It lasted a day. I think you are right but I have no proof. Hey Di I am willing to do my part I just do not think long term we can keep everyone home. I hate that I can not have kids visiting my dogs anymore and calling me baldy.

Rue don't lose the faith brother, a couple of months is a flash of time....

Dougie93 · March 27, 2020

Ever since I retired and became a recluse, I stopped catching colds & flus, i was never a sickie to start off with, but I stopped catching them altogether

Even when my wife catches them when she's traveling for work, I still don't catch them from her

So if you just stay home, stay out of the hot zone, be reclusive, you wont catch it and you won't bring it home with you

Basically just enjoy the staycation while it lasts

OftenWrong · March 27, 2020

19 hours ago, eyeball said:

Yes it's especially gratifying knowing how much it burns you that Kumbaya is rising.

Kumbaya my arse. I`ll tell you what`s rising. Man`s inhumanity to man. We got a little glimpse of that when we saw the looting and pillaging once the word came out.

You think that social distancing encourages a sense of trust of others, especially strangers? Or would it do the complete opposite. I think it`s the opposite. The attitude is, keep away from me. Keep your distance. Don`t talk to me, you might breath out some virus. Don`t lend me a helping hand, don`t touch any of my belongings.

The other day in the Metro parking lot there was a little old man, rather bent over and trying to transport 4 big jugs of water to his car. This was before all the fear and nonsense really started. He could barely walk so I carried 3 of the jugs over for him. Said thanks, goodbye. Now just do that today. You walk over and touch their stuff, their gonna pull out a gun and tell you get lost, you infected piece of crap. That will be the new kumbaya.

eyeball · March 27, 2020

5 hours ago, dialamah said:

My sister and her partner (live in Vancouver) were very ill in January with the symptoms cv-19 but they were never tested for it; they just figured it was the worst flu of their lives till info about covid came out. Probably never know for sure if it was covid, but I've no doubt it was here well before the first cases on the news.

And what's most unfortunate is that your sister and her partner will have to assume it was just a flu until they know otherwise.

This is why the more important testing we need now is for antibodies and screening for immune people who can replace the gaps in the workforce asap.

From each to each...pay it sideways.

Edited March 27, 2020 by eyeball

eyeball · March 27, 2020

8 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

Kumbaya my arse. I`ll tell you what`s rising. Man`s inhumanity to man. We got a little glimpse of that when we saw the looting and pillaging once the word came out.You think that social distancing encourages a sense of trust of others, especially strangers? Or would it do the complete opposite. I think it`s the opposite.

Try thinking about it as distant socializing - makes it feel like we're still in touch. I see this just about every time I pass another boat and everyone's waving as if to say we're all in the same ocean.

Thanks for going to work today BTW and I should apologize for rubbing your shattering illusions in your face like I did.

Edited March 27, 2020 by eyeball

bush_cheney2004 · March 27, 2020

50 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

Ever since I retired and became a recluse, I stopped catching colds & flus, i was never a sickie to start off with, but I stopped catching them altogether

Same here....over five years now...nothing. The cold and flu meds I use to buy sit un-opened..and long expired.

Dougie93 · March 27, 2020

4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Same here....over five years now...nothing. The cold and flu meds I use to buy sit un-opened..and long expired.

If I have to leave my compound, I'll do all the safety precautions so I don't bring it back, I'll lock in and lock out

But since I don't have to leave my compound for a long long time now, I'm just business as usual up in here, with the bonus that my is home, so it's staycation

Dougie93 · March 27, 2020

My wife is actually very busy during the day online, because she's med tech and they are ramping up

Military Industrial Complex Biowarfare Stimulus

So we're both fully operational in support of the war effort

bush_cheney2004 · March 27, 2020

2 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

If I have to leave my compound, I'll do all the safety precautions so I don't bring it back, I'll lock in and lock out

I still routinely leave the "compound" as before, and travel to dark sites at night for imaging, but no more daily bump and grind at work in close quarters. No more lunches at restaurants, no more meeting rooms, no more elevators, no more building rest rooms, etc.

Dougie93 · March 27, 2020

12 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

I still routinely leave the "compound" as before, and travel to dark sites at night for imaging, but no more daily bump and grind at work in close quarters. No more lunches at restaurants, no more meeting rooms, no more elevators, no more building rest rooms, etc.

My compound is 12,500 sq ft landscaped mini park

I also chose this location for its dark skies

So I've got the telescope out on the deck, cool & clear skies, so good stargazing

Dougie93 · March 27, 2020

Venus is massive at twilight in the western sky, it's like a mini moon

bush_cheney2004 · March 27, 2020

6 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

My compound is 12,500 sq ft landscaped mini park

I also chose this location for its dark skies

So I've got the telescope out on the deck, cool & clear skies, so good stargazing

Right...ours is 15,000 ft2....but skies are not so dark anymore. Need to use narrowband filters.

Venus doesn't care because it is bright as hell.

Logical conclusion is that more people means more virus.

Dougie93 · March 27, 2020

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Logical conclusion is that more people means more virus.

Military Industrial Congressional Complex Stimulus Entrenched Interest

There will be winners & losers in any war

Dougie93 · March 27, 2020

8 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

Right...ours is 15,000 ft2....

Officers quarters

I never bought a sit down mower, I can just mow this yard for p.t. up and down the hill.

I always wanted a yard though, so I embrace the suck.

bush_cheney2004 · March 27, 2020

5 minutes ago, Dougie93 said:

I never bought a sit down mower, I can just mow this yard for p.t. up and down the hill.

I always wanted a yard though, so I embrace the suck.

I like it...mowing the lawn builds character.

I bet Trudeau never mowed the lawn.

Dougie93 · March 27, 2020

2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said:

I like it...mowing the lawn builds character.

I bet Trudeau never mowed the lawn.

The gardening is the part that requires discipline

My wife hates gardening, does all the house work in return for me doing all the gardening

bush_cheney2004 · March 27, 2020

Just now, Dougie93 said:

The gardening is the part that requires discipline

My wife hates gardening, does all the house work in return for me doing all the gardening

Such routines are healthy...provides a comforting framework....mitigates panic.

My neighbour with a Canadian wife mows his lawn with a holstered Glock !