August1991 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) I met Andrew Scheer, in person, in Montreal, before his selection as Conservative leader. He sat at the bar and flipped through his phone and ignored me and the hundred or so other people in the room. I figured that he was either very smart or not a people person. During the election, in the French debate in particular, I understood that he was not very smart. He was clearly not a people person. Edited December 13, 2019 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Big Daddy Trump President of Canada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
August1991 Posted December 13, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) Big Daddy Trump? Base monthly Social Security in the US at age 62: US $2209 Link Base monthly OAP + CPP + GAINS at age 65: Cdn $2000 == Despite popular opinion, the US offers generally better treatment of older people than Canada. Why? The US is a richer country. Edited December 13, 2019 by August1991 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie93 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Actually I would say it's due to the AARP. It's just more effective to lobby congress than it is to lobby the Canadian parliament. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannuck Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Lisa missing from the list. MacKay would be my first choice, so hope so for others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queenmandy85 Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 It is unlikely Kenney, Ambrose, Mulroney, Wall or Baird will run. I would have supportted Ms. Ambrose or Raitt if they ran but I fear MacKay will get it. Thats what happens when you have a candidate that stabbed his own party in the back. Benedidct Arnold had more honour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Lisa Rait said yesterday she will not run, no word from Ambrose yet but if she does run she's a shoe in (I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goddess Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 5 hours ago, Queenmandy85 said: It is unlikely Kenney, Ambrose, Mulroney, Wall or Baird will run. I would have supportted Ms. Ambrose or Raitt if they ran but I fear MacKay will get it. Thats what happens when you have a candidate that stabbed his own party in the back. Benedidct Arnold had more honour. I hear a lot of people in Alberta saying they think Kenney will run, but none of them are happy about it. I'd love to see Rona Ambrose run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, scribblet said: Lisa Rait said yesterday she will not run, no word from Ambrose yet but if she does run she's a shoe in (I think). I'd consider voting for her, she seemed to have some common sense. Would have to see what her actual platform would be first, of course. For me, it will likely come down to climate change policies followed by human rights and immigration policies; we need to develop policy to deal with climate refugees before they start arriving on our doorstep. For fiscal policy, cutbacks in corporate welfare policies and increased health and education support would be important to me, with some personal tax increase acceptable to support that. Transition to guaranteed basic income and elimination of several government agencies that currently deliver our social safety net would also be nice, but I doubt that would come from a Conservative government (or probably any gov for the foreseeable future). Edited December 13, 2019 by dialamah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 10 minutes ago, dialamah said: I'd consider voting for her, she seemed to have some common sense. Would have to see what her actual platform would be first, of course. For me, it will likely come down to climate change policies followed by human rights and immigration policies; we need to develop policy to deal with climate refugees before they start arriving on our doorstep. For fiscal policy, cutbacks in corporate welfare policies and increased health and education support would be important to me, with some personal tax increase acceptable to support that. Transition to guaranteed basic income and elimination of several government agencies that currently deliver our social safety net would also be nice, but I doubt that would come from a Conservative government (or probably any gov for the foreseeable future). It’s a Conservative leader, not an NDP one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dialamah Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 4 minutes ago, Shady said: It’s a Conservative leader, not an NDP one. Conservatives can have good ideas too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 8 hours ago, cannuck said: Lisa missing from the list. MacKay would be my first choice, so hope so for others. An English version of Justin Trudeau. No thanks. I'd rather have Poilievre. Who's also missing from the list, or O'Toole, who's also missing from this list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted December 13, 2019 Report Share Posted December 13, 2019 Rona Ambrose is the best choice. She's actually sane. They need a PC not another bible-thumping Alliance wacko. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said: Rona Ambrose is the best choice. She's actually sane. They need a PC not another bible-thumping Alliance wacko. Can you name me any female leader in this country who hasn't been a disaster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, Argus said: Can you name me any female leader in this country who hasn't been a disaster? Rona Ambrose. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 Rona Ambrose should be the 2nd elected PM to ever have a vagina. The first being Justin Trudeau. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: Rona Ambrose should be the 2nd elected PM to ever have a vagina. The first being Justin Trudeau. Women tend to support policies based more on emotion than cold, hard facts. We've had four federal leaders who were women and they were all idiots (not counting Trudeau, who's a moron). Every female premier I can think of was a freaking disaster. That being said, I would rather have her than some of the other names being mentioned, such as McKay. Edited December 14, 2019 by Argus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said: Rona Ambrose is the best choice. She's actually sane. They need a PC not another bible-thumping Alliance wacko. I don’t even know a Conservative leader that’s been a quote bible thumping alliance wacko. Certainly Harper wasn’t. Either was Scheer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Shady said: I don’t even know a Conservative leader that’s been a quote bible thumping alliance wacko. Certainly Harper wasn’t. Either was Scheer. It seems in this country you can wear special religious gear like turbans and hijabs and pray multiple times a day and get nothing but respect. But if you say you're a a practicing Christian and believe in what your church says you're a religious fanatic. Edited December 14, 2019 by Argus 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Argus said: Women tend to support policies based more on emotion than cold, hard facts. We've had four federal leaders who were women and they were all idiots (not counting Trudeau, who's a moron). Every female premier I can think of was a freaking disaster. That being said, I would rather have her than some of the other names being mentioned, such as McKay. Premier's in general tend to be morons. I don't think vaginas or penises make people good or bad leaders. Evaluate people on their merits not their chromosomes and dangly bits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Shady said: I don’t even know a Conservative leader that’s been a quote bible thumping alliance wacko. Certainly Harper wasn’t. Either was Scheer. ya they were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, Argus said: It seems in this country you can wear special religious gear like turbans and hijabs and pray multiple times a day and get nothing but respect. But if you say you're a a practicing Christian and believe in what your church says you're a religious fanatic. That’s definitely what it seems. I can only imagine if somebody talked about Koran thumpers, or Torah thumpers. Apparently just being a regular practicing catholic or Christian means you’re automatically some kind of wacko. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Moonlight Graham said: ya they were. How so? They pretty much stuck to economic policy. Just average church goers. How long have you been a bigot? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BubberMiley Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 16 minutes ago, Argus said: It seems in this country you can wear special religious gear like turbans and hijabs and pray multiple times a day and get nothing but respect. But if you say you're a a practicing Christian and believe in what your church says you're a religious fanatic. You guys don't have Christians with special religious gear in Ontario? I swear they make up more than 10% of the population here. Lots of women in long skirts and headscarves everywhere I go, but we've always had a strong Hutterian and Mennonite population. I think that's why our premier is so strongly against Quebec's Bill 22 and is even advertising in Quebec for persecuted religious groups to come to Manitoba. Some have suggested he should make a run for the federal leadership, but I doubt he's interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scribblet Posted December 14, 2019 Report Share Posted December 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, Shady said: I don’t even know a Conservative leader that’s been a quote bible thumping alliance wacko. Certainly Harper wasn’t. Either was Scheer. Well I think there was one ...Stockwell Day 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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