The road to 2020

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, Boges said:

How about you argue issues that are at hand and not copy and paste a previous list of issues you have that have nothing to do with what's being discussed. 

How about if you learn from the extensive history of blatant lying on CNN and not keep making the same mistakes? 

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Sure. But partying and going to bars and not wearing masks also contributes to the outbreak. 

You can only spread COVID through protesting? If you're doing something productive for the economy, you can't? 

For example the Sturgis Rally that happened on the Weekend. If that's not a Super Spreader, I don't know what one is. 

The Sturgis Rally is like a protest, because in both scenarios you have people who wouldn't normally congregate, all coming together for a brief time, and then all going back to where they came from.

They're the kinds of things that ensure any viruses which are present in one area can spread to many other areas simultaneously. Much like the airports in Canada, which were bringing in people from Wuhan to share their infection all around our country and with the rest of the  world.  

[Boges]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

They're the kinds of things that ensure any viruses which are present in one area can spread to many other areas simultaneously. Much like the airports in Canada, which were bringing in people from Wuhan to share their infection all around our country and with the rest of the  world.  

I think it's been established that much of the North American outbreak came from Europe. 

[Charles Anthony]

Folks, 

I sill have no magical cure for thread derailment syndrome.  Who wants quarantine?  

 

[WestCanMan]

Joe "Give My Kid Money" Biden and Kamala "The Slave Owner's Grand-Daughter" Harris still won't take any questions from the media.

It's shameful.

They give canned speeches and duck off before Joe starts drooling. 

[-TSS-]

The mother of all recessions is coming. Won't make any difference who is the President other than that whoever is the President will get the blame. 

[WestCanMan]

On 8/13/2020 at 10:22 AM, Shady said:

Mail in voting can be a huge problem, particularly in Democrat states.   They tend not to clean up voter roles, so you get many ballots being mailed out to people that have passed away, or on lists with their surname at birth as well as their married name, etc.  These ballots get mailed out to the last known address, with no real protection.  Anybody can liberate these ballots from mailboxes before the person that's suppose to vote even gets a chance to look at it.  Think of porch pirates with amazon packages, but much much easier.

The fact that the crookedest party in the history of democratic elections wants mail-in ballots to be widely used is all that anyone needs to know about the reasoning behind this new push for mail-ins.

 

[OftenWrong]

On 8/13/2020 at 1:22 PM, Shady said:

Mail in voting can be a huge problem, particularly in Democrat states. 

I heard some of those recent rounds of voting in Dem states got so screwed up, they weren't able to count them.

[BubberMiley]

On 8/13/2020 at 12:22 PM, Shady said:

Mail in voting can be a huge problem, particularly in Democrat states.   

You should provide a citation that indicates the level of voter fraud from mail-in absentee voting. Because just making stuff up off the top of your head is boring.

[WestCanMan]

1 hour ago, BubberMiley said:

You should provide a citation that indicates the level of voter fraud from mail-in absentee voting. Because just making stuff up off the top of your head is boring.

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/08/674543576/voting-by-mail-is-on-the-rise-but-could-alleged-n-c-election-fraud-change-that

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"The consensus, among people who study fraud carefully, is that voting by mail is a much more fertile area for fraud than voting in person," said Charles Stewart, who studies election technology and administration at Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

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A Washington Post article from 2012 laid out six cases where local races were affected by vote-purchasing and absentee-ballot requests.

Another problem with mail-in ballots - what's stopping people from forcing their spouses to vote whichever way they're told? 

The polling station is a private, one-person affair. There's no telling what happens to people in their own homes on the day that their mail-in ballot arrives. 

[Cannucklehead]

2 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/08/674543576/voting-by-mail-is-on-the-rise-but-could-alleged-n-c-election-fraud-change-that

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Another problem with mail-in ballots - what's stopping people from forcing their spouses to vote whichever way they're told? 

The polling station is a private, one-person affair. There's no telling what happens to people in their own homes on the day that their mail-in ballot arrives. 

Why is that any different?  Spouses can tell you to go vote how they tell you anyway,  or in fact tell you not to vote at all.  

[BubberMiley]

22 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

https://www.npr.org/2018/12/08/674543576/voting-by-mail-is-on-the-rise-but-could-alleged-n-c-election-fraud-change-that

and

 

Your cites indicate voter fraud through mail-in ballots isn't an issue. Your Washington Post article just said fraud was from people being paid to vote a certain way. 

I guess you didn't read them?

[WestCanMan]

51 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

Why is that any different?  Spouses can tell you to go vote how they tell you anyway,  or in fact tell you not to vote at all.  

Huh?

If you were a 90 lb girl married to Mike Tyson and he sent you into a polling booth to vote for Trump how could he possibly know who she voted for?

[Cannucklehead]

12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Huh?

If you were a 90 lb girl married to Mike Tyson and he sent you into a polling booth to vote for Trump how could he possibly know who she voted for?

Cell phone pic.  

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

Your cites indicate voter fraud through mail-in ballots isn't an issue. Your Washington Post article just said fraud was from people being paid to vote a certain way. 

I guess you didn't read them?

As usual you don’t have a clue what you’re even talking about. 

How can you pay someone to vote a certain way in a polling booth with a secret ballot?

I could say: “Thanks for the $50 Bubber, I’ll go cast my vote for Trudeau now!” and you’d be smiling like the Cheshire cat?

You saw the quote about mail-in voting being the most fertile soil for election fraud, right?

Honest to god man, I could have this exact conversation with a goat and get as much insight from it. 

[BubberMiley]

37 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

As usual you don’t have a clue what you’re even talking about. 

How can you pay someone to vote a certain way in a polling booth with a secret ballot?

 

I agree that it is unlikely to be a problem. I was just referring to the main point of the article you cited, which you misrepresented as data showing that mail-in voting is a problem.

So I do feel stupid for having read your cites when you obviously didn't bother. 

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, BubberMiley said:

I agree that it is unlikely to be a problem. I was just referring to the main point of the article you cited, which you misrepresented as data showing that mail-in voting is a problem.

So I do feel stupid for having read your cites when you obviously didn't bother. 

Find the word data in one of my posts. i never misrepresented anything. I'm not a leftist.

[WestCanMan]

52 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

Cell phone pic.  

Oops. I forgot to take a pic.

[Cannucklehead]

4 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Oops. I forgot to take a pic.

Really?  *unbuckles belt*

[WestCanMan]

Just now, Cannucklehead said:

Really?  *unbuckles belt*

Too late. Democracy was already saved.

[Cannucklehead]

Just now, WestCanMan said:

Too late. Democracy was already saved.

Enjoy it when your in the hospital or dead lol

[WestCanMan]

13 minutes ago, Cannucklehead said:

Enjoy it when your in the hospital or dead lol

The fact that you think someone would kill or hospitalize their spouse just over one vote leads me to believe that you think some Americans will go to extreme lengths to unduly influence the outcome of the election. 

With that in mind, think about the fact that the Dems and CNN, the main sleazebags who were in cahoots over the Russian collusion fiasco to overturn a legitimate election, and who then slandered Brett Kavanuagh to prevent him from being duly appointed to the Supreme Court, are both fighting tooth and nail for mail-in ballots and voting without ID. Both of those things make voting scams far easier.

Would you take Ted Bundy's advice on how to keep women safe from sexual predators if he was advocating for something counter-intuitive like the removal of streetlights, or defunding police? If not, then why would you take the strange advice of America's most frequently busted liars/scammers to safeguard the sanctity of elections?  

Edited August 15, 2020 by WestCanMan

[Cannucklehead]

10 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The fact that you think someone would kill or hospitalize their spouse just over one vote leads me to believe that you think some Americans will go to extreme lengths to unduly influence the outcome of the election. 

With that in mind, think about the fact that the Dems and CNN, the main sleazebags who were in cahoots over the Russian collusion fiasco to overturn a legitimate election, and who then slandered Brett Kavanuagh to prevent him from being duly appointed to the Supreme Court, are both fighting tooth and nail for mail-in ballots and voting without ID. Both of those things make voting scams far easier.

Would you take Ted Bundy's advice on how to keep women safe from sexual predators if he was advocating for something counter-intuitive like the removal of streetlights, or defunding police? If not, then why would you take the strange advice of America's most frequently busted liars/scammers to safeguard the sanctity of elections?  

Why would you think they would do it with mail in ballots then?  

[bush_cheney2004]

15 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

The fact that you think someone would kill or hospitalize their spouse just over one vote leads me to believe that you think some Americans will go to extreme lengths to unduly influence the outcome of the election.

 

Indeed....but in reality about 40% of eligible American voters don't even bother to vote.  Could be less with COVID in 2020.

It is extreme for the partisan groups trying to win the precincts in swing states with very slim margins.

[Charles Anthony]

Folks, 

I took down some off-topic posts.

[Argus]

So it looks like Trump is under the belief if he can stop mail-in voting he can stay president. I don't really understand what's going on in what passes for his mind with this. Maybe he figures his religious supporters are more likely to brave death to go out to vote for 'their saviour' than Democrats and maybe he's right. They're none too bright. In any event, the two parties haven't been able to come to any agreement on further covid relief money because the Democrats are trying to add money for the post office and the Republicans (obedient to Trump's will, as always) are determined to resist. Now the post office (run by a Trump supporter) seems to be removing high volume sorting equipment in hopes that if they completely destroy the post office their Godly president will be able to remain in power.

https://www.vice.com/en_ca/article/n7wk9z/the-post-office-is-deactivating-mail-sorting-machines-ahead-of-the-election