bush_cheney2004 Posted August 8, 2020 Report Share Posted August 8, 2020 47 minutes ago, Argus said: No, it's actually not, if it comes through massive amounts of borrowed money. Wrong....the U.S. and many other nations have recovered from multiple recessions with public and private borrowing, long before Trump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/8/2020 at 1:07 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: Wrong....the U.S. and many other nations have recovered from multiple recessions with public and private borrowing, long before Trump. I'm sure the GOP will suddenly oppose that should Biden be elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Note that Canada and it's shutdowns and slow cautious re-opening created more the twice the jobs per capital than the US did in July. 419k to 1.8 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 5 hours ago, Boges said: Note that Canada and it's shutdowns and slow cautious re-opening created more the twice the jobs per capital than the US did in July. 419k to 1.8 million. Note that Canada's unemployment rate remains higher than in the United States, before the COVID pandemic and right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Note that Canada's unemployment rate remains higher than in the United States, before the COVID pandemic and right now. It always is. It's actually a lot closer now than it normally is. You'd think there'd be a bigger gap consider Canada has been way more cautious on re-opening than the US has. But current' it's only .6% lower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 3 minutes ago, Boges said: It always is. It's actually a lot closer now than it normally is. You'd think there'd be a bigger gap consider Canada has been way more cautious on re-opening than the US has. But current' it's only .6% lower. That's right...it always is....for a very, very long time....COVID or no COVID. This is Canada's chance to break that trend....good luck ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: That's right...it always is....for a very, very long time....COVID or no COVID. This is Canada's chance to break that trend....good luck ! Again, not the point. You'd expect the US to have a lower unemployment. They started re-opening the economy earlier. But it appears re-opening efforts and job creation have stalled. Should Biden elected in November, that'll be two Democratic POTUS' that inherited ridiculously high unemployment rate from the previous GOP POTUS. Edited August 10, 2020 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Boges said: Again, not the point. You'd expect the US to have a lower unemployment. They started re-opening the economy earlier. But it appears re-opening efforts and job creation have stalled. Should Biden elected in November, that'll be two Democratic POTUS' that inherited ridiculously high unemployment rate from the previous GOP POTUS. No, it is exactly the point when cherry picking comparisons to unemployment numbers in the U.S. Why didn't you crow about this years ago ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No, it is exactly the point when cherry picking comparisons to unemployment numbers in the U.S. Why didn't you crow about this years ago ? Because employment rate doesn't reflect quality of said jobs that do exist. It's telling that so many workers would rather stay on Government assistance as long as they can rather than return to their low wage job and risk getting COVID-19. This is something government should have considered. They should have allowed the infection rate to drop to a manageable level like the rest of the developed world. Edited August 10, 2020 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Boges said: Because employment rate doesn't reflect quality of said jobs that do exist. It's telling that so many workers would rather stay on Government assistance as long as they can rather than return to their low wage job and risk getting COVID-19. As opposed to allowing the infection rate to drop to a manageable level like the rest of the developed world. Even more telling that many Canadians would prefer CERB and other supports even when it has lower COVID rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Even more telling that many Canadians would prefer CERB and other supports even when it has lower COVID rates. It's true. May are doing that as well. I'm sure those that have part-time or gig economy jobs would much prefer to live off the government. But the rush to re-open isn't nearly as strong as in the US. I contend many in Canada can't go back to work because things haven't fully re-opened yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Boges said: It's true. May are doing that as well. I'm sure those that have part-time or gig economy jobs would much prefer to live off the government. But the rush to re-open isn't nearly as strong as in the US. I contend many in Canada can't go back to work because things haven't fully re-opened yet. That's Canada's choice....same as in other nations like the United States. The U.S. doesn't want to just re-open...it wants to party too...like the motorcycle rally in Sturgis, South Dakota. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 Come on man! That’s his fall back catch phrase, especially when he’s dealing with a difficult question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 On 8/7/2020 at 6:46 AM, Argus said: And after almost four years in office what has Trump accomplished other than the self-enrichment of himself and his relatives? That's a farcical, bullshit statement Argus. 1) If you want to talk about politicians enriching their own families the conversation starts with Biden and Trudeau, period. The direct path from government power &/or money directly to vastly increasing their family's fortunes is completely out in the open now. 2) If you're not aware of all the things that Trump actually accomplished for Americans by now, that's pathetic, and it's just a matter of intentional ignorance. The list of his accomplishments has been posted here before, there's no need for me to post it here again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCanMan Posted August 10, 2020 Report Share Posted August 10, 2020 35 minutes ago, Shady said: Come on man! That’s his fall back catch phrase, especially when he’s dealing with a difficult question. He gets asked a handful of questions per week now, exclusively from friendly faces who no doubt warn him what they're going to ask him ahead of time, and he has to answer with things like "C'mon man! It's common knowledge that everything I did in Ukraine was legit, and that I didn't even know that Hunter had that job at Burisma when I fired the prosecutor." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 So everyone is really going to lean in on this dementia narrative. Yesterday Trump said the Spanish Flu ended World War 2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Boges said: So everyone is really going to lean in on this dementia narrative. Yesterday Trump said the Spanish Flu ended World War 2. Do you know what dementia is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Shady said: Do you know what dementia is? Quote Dementia is a collective term used to describe various symptoms of cognitive decline, such as forgetfulness. It is a symptom of several underlying diseases and brain disorders. Dementia is not a single disease in itself, but a general term to describe symptoms of impairment in memory, communication, and thinking. I'm sure you have the appropriate psychological accreditation to diagnose such a condition based on cherry-picked video snippets. Edited August 11, 2020 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Boges said: I'm sure you have the appropriate psychological accreditation to diagnose such a condition based on cherry-picked video snippets. https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/505562-biden-must-release-results-of-his-cognitive-decline-tests-voters-need-to https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2020/8/2/21350080/joe-biden-mental-acuity-dementia-laura-washington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Shady said: https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/505562-biden-must-release-results-of-his-cognitive-decline-tests-voters-need-to https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/2020/8/2/21350080/joe-biden-mental-acuity-dementia-laura-washington Note, Trump has never released Cognitive results, he's just bragged about passing the test. Honesty isn't his strong suit. But if Biden MUST release results that show he doesn't have some disease then perhaps Trump should release his tax returns to prove he's not a corrupt criminal. Edited August 11, 2020 by Boges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Boges said: Note, Trump has never released Cognitive results, he's just bragged about passing the test. Honesty isn't his strong suit. But if Biden MUST release results that show he doesn't have some disease then perhaps Trump should release his tax returns to prove he's not a corrupt criminal. I don't think Biden MUST release anything. But it's a reality that many have noticed his decline. He's almost 80. If you compare a video of him speaking now to when he was vice president, it's night and day. Whether it's significant is subjective. But there has been a decline. Even if some people want to ignore it. His interviews are incoherent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 3 minutes ago, Shady said: I don't think Biden MUST release anything. But it's a reality that many have noticed his decline. He's almost 80. If you compare a video of him speaking now to when he was vice president, it's night and day. Whether it's significant is subjective. But there has been a decline. Even if some people want to ignore it. His interviews are incoherent. And such declines can be cherry picked from Trump's public speaking. You're accusing Biden of having serious cognitive issues. There is only anecdotal evidence of that. This is the similar tactic used against Hillary when she collapsed once in 2016. The claims were that she was ill and was unfit for office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 55 minutes ago, Boges said: And such declines can be cherry picked from Trump's public speaking. You're accusing Biden of having serious cognitive issues. There is only anecdotal evidence of that. This is the similar tactic used against Hillary when she collapsed once in 2016. The claims were that she was ill and was unfit for office. She was ill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boges Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Shady said: She was ill. Cite a medical diagnosis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 11, 2020 Report Share Posted August 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Boges said: Cite a medical diagnosis. Well, since medical records are private, it's difficult. But you're right, she collapsed due to great health! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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