The road to 2020

[Shady]

Just now, Boges said:

Sure. But he wasn't going to be selected anyway. Doesn't mean he wasn't a victim of cancel culture. 

I like how you think you know the true definition of cancel culture and know the objective meaning of it. 

How was Mr. Goya a victim of Cancel Culture? How about Tucker's Head writer? Or Bill O'Reilly? Are they all pieces of crap as well? 

That's not true.  There were several teams that were legitimately interested in signing him.  Again, you just don't know what you're talking about.  Please stop.

I believe he would have had a job inside of two weeks,” Smith said. “But it didn’t happen, because he didn’t show. He wanted to show up at a high school in Georgia, not an NFL facility and then YouTube it live.”

https://deadline.com/2019/11/stephen-a-smith-slams-colin-kaepernick-he-wants-to-be-a-martyr-1202788136/

[Shady]

1 minute ago, Boges said:

And you know should Biden be re-elected. Republicans will suddenly care about the deficit again. They'll be dusting off their Tea Party gear. 

Everything you say is literally a lie.  The tea party (taxed enough already) was primarily about taxes and the government takeover of health care.  Please stop.

[Boges]

3 minutes ago, Shady said:

Everything you say is literally a lie.  The tea party (taxed enough already) was primarily about taxes and the government takeover of health care.  Please stop.

And you are so full of hyperbole and frothing emotions, it's tough to take you seriously. 

If you don't believe the Tea-Party were concerned with deficit spending you weren't paying attention. 

http://www.teapartyexpress.org/3009/the-federal-budget-deficit

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The picture is clear: it’s a spending problem. You cannot spend your way out of a deficit; you cannot borrow your way out of debt. You must restrain spending by limiting the federal government to its Constitutional role and grow the economy so that people get back to work and that will mean more tax payers are created. Nothing Obummer and the left have proposed will do either. They just want to spend more, and take more from your family so that you can’t.

 

[Shady]

2 minutes ago, Boges said:

And you are so full of hyperbole and frothing emotions, it's tough to take you seriously. 

If you don't believe the Tea-Party were concerned with deficit spending you weren't paying attention. 

http://www.teapartyexpress.org/3009/the-federal-budget-deficit

 

Never heard of the tea party express.  You know there are many different tea party groups right?  

[Boges]

2 minutes ago, Shady said:

Never heard of the tea party express.  You know there are many different tea party groups right?  

So then how are you out here pretending that you know that the movement had nothing to do with government spending. It's not the only thing. But clearly Trump hasn't really addressed the government spending part. 

And he also makes Executive Orders. DICTATOR!!!

Edited August 12, 2020 by Boges

[Charles Anthony]

Folks,  

Stay on topic.  

[Argus]

2 hours ago, Boges said:

And you know should Biden be re-elected. Republicans will suddenly care about the deficit again. They'll be dusting off their Tea Party gear. 

Oh yeah, of course. They'll start screaming about the deficit, and how it's all Biden's fault, and how deep cuts to entitlements are needed. That's a given. None will consider their big tax cut, which mostly benefited the wealthy, to be in any way responsible.

[WestCanMan]

7 hours ago, Argus said:

You can squeal about Obama all you want. I said nothing good about Obama. I wasn't a fan. Trump is much worse and much dumber... and much crookeder.

You can't call Trump 'the divider' of the two.

The Obama-inspired rift between Americans was bigger than the Grand Canyon by Nov of 2016.

[-TSS-]

Some people are taking Trump's defeat so granted that if Trump still manages to win expect a huge sound of blood vessels bursting in many people's heads simply because people being so pissed off. Imagine the disappointment they had in 2016 and mulitply that by a zillion and you get the level of their disappointment if Trump still wins.

[bush_cheney2004]

1 hour ago, -TSS- said:

Some people are taking Trump's defeat so granted that if Trump still manages to win expect a huge sound of blood vessels bursting in many people's heads simply because people being so pissed off. Imagine the disappointment they had in 2016 and mulitply that by a zillion and you get the level of their disappointment if Trump still wins.

 

Agreed...some people get so invested in these political outcomes, they are not prepared for a result that doesn't match their domestic or world views and assumptions, setting themselves up for a personal crisis and phases of grief, starting with shock and denial.   

In 2016,  their heads did explode, and that includes Canada & Canadian media.   They need only have been more objective and remembered what happened in 2004 when George W. Bush defeated John Kerry in a close election.    Canada wanted Kerry to win by a 3:1 margin.  The added irony is that Canadians would go on to "boycott" Heinz products, owned by Kerry's wife Teresa Heinz & family, because of protectionism that Kerry also favoured.

Just when Canada thought no U.S. president could be hated more than George W. Bush, Trump found a way to piss them off even more.   In reality, it is just another U.S. election...they happen like clockwork regardless of the combatants.

 

 

[WestCanMan]

8 hours ago, Boges said:

The Irony is that BLM is way more mainstream under Trump than it ever was under Obama. 

In 2016 a player was an SOB for kneeling during the National Anthem. Now the players that don't kneel are notable, not the players that do. 

It's disheartening to see how many people in the USA are stupid enough to still follow the Dems and their toadies at CNN, BLM and Antifa.

[bush_cheney2004]

14 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's disheartening to see how many people in the USA are stupid enough to still follow the Dems and their toadies at CNN, BLM and Antifa.

 

The good news is that the majority of Americans are not Democrats at all....25% Republican and about 40% independent.   The Democrats get their power from large cities in key states, that would otherwise be in play.

[WestCanMan]

6 hours ago, Shady said:

Everything you say is literally a lie. 

Good Libs/Dems don't care about lying, they only care about their popularity within their bubble. Lying and phony victim status are the true measures of worth within their cult.

That's why phoney victim status clingers like Colin (what have crackers done for me, aside from the ones that raised me) Kaepernick, Jussie Smollett, Dr Ford, Michael Brown, Rayshard Brooks and George Floyd are like heroes to them. They're natural losers whose own flaws made them into fake victims, and the loser portion of the population needs an excuse for sucking, so they point to these guys as excuses for their own plight. "I'm just a loser for the same reasons as those guys. It's not my fault".

Their leaders are all the liars like Schiff, Pelosi, CNN, Nadler, etc who pander to their lowlife BS to create division and get votes. 

[Boges]

12 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

Good Libs/Dems don't care about lying, they only care about their popularity within their bubble. Lying and phony victim status are the true measures of worth within their cult.

That's the most ironic thing I've ever read. 

Yesterday Trump kept repeating the lie that The US COVID-19 caseload is only because of increased testing. And other countries are seeing comparative spikes. Complete lies. 

[Thinkinoutsidethebox]

Maybe voter fraud should be outlawed? 

Mail in voting seems like a problem as I see it unless you are voting in the post office or something. Imagine sitting at the kitchen table as a secret Democrat in a house full of Republicans filling out the ballot... 

[Boges]

4 hours ago, Thinkinoutsidethebox said:

Maybe voter fraud should be outlawed? 

Mail in voting seems like a problem as I see it unless you are voting in the post office or something. Imagine sitting at the kitchen table as a secret Democrat in a house full of Republicans filling out the ballot... 

It's legal.

You can imagine many ways to commit voter fraud. But it would require a huge conspiracy to achieve it on any appreciable scale. 

[Shady]

4 hours ago, Thinkinoutsidethebox said:

Maybe voter fraud should be outlawed? 

Mail in voting seems like a problem as I see it unless you are voting in the post office or something. Imagine sitting at the kitchen table as a secret Democrat in a house full of Republicans filling out the ballot... 

Mail in voting can be a huge problem, particularly in Democrat states.   They tend not to clean up voter roles, so you get many ballots being mailed out to people that have passed away, or on lists with their surname at birth as well as their married name, etc.  These ballots get mailed out to the last known address, with no real protection.  Anybody can liberate these ballots from mailboxes before the person that's suppose to vote even gets a chance to look at it.  Think of porch pirates with amazon packages, but much much easier.

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, Boges said:

That's the most ironic thing I've ever read.  

LMAO - this coming from the guy who got sucked in by LITERALLY EVER STUPID LIE THAT THE LIBERAL MSM HAS PROPAGATED OVER THE LAST 3 YEARS!!!!!!!

Russian collusion, Rayshard Brooks was murdered, Dr Ford, H Biden did nothing wrong in China and Joe didn't know, H Biden did nothing wrong in Ukraine and Joe didn't know, HCQ IS A KILLER, get the vaccine, Trudeau did everything right fighting covid by keeping travel open & banning masks and then when he blocked travel and started telling people to wear masks he was right again, the riots were peaceful, Trump's anti-semitism inspired the Pennsylvania killings, etc....

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Yesterday Trump kept repeating the lie that The US COVID-19 caseload is only because of increased testing. And other countries are seeing comparative spikes. Complete lies.

For your edification: in the US they issue more tests per capita than Canada, so even if the number of active cases in both countries was the exact same, they would appear higher in the US because more people get tested, per capita. Eg, if the US and Canada both had a population of 1M people, and they all had covid, the US would have between 2,000 and 2,500 positives because they do 2-2.5 tests per thousand people. Canada would only have 1,000 - 1,500 positives because they do 1-1.5 tests per 100K people. 

FYI the US has ten x our population and they do twice as many tests per 1K than us, so if both countries had the same infection rate then the US would still have (nearly) 20x the number of active cases. That's because they have 10x the population and they do 2x as many tests. (I say 'nearly' because a certain percentage of people who get tested because some of the people tested are taking the test because they have symptoms)

Of course the US had a spike in cases. They had rioters and protestors all across the country sharing covid ("protestors don't spread covid but every other group of people in the world does" lol, another idiotic leftist MSM fantasy that sucked morons in).

[Shady]

5 hours ago, Boges said:

That's the most ironic thing I've ever read. 

Yesterday Trump kept repeating the lie that The US COVID-19 caseload is only because of increased testing. And other countries are seeing comparative spikes. Complete lies. 

It's ok, Biden keeps repeating lies as well.  So do you.

[Shady]

21 hours ago, Argus said:

Oh yeah, of course. They'll start screaming about the deficit, and how it's all Biden's fault, and how deep cuts to entitlements are needed. That's a given. None will consider their big tax cut, which mostly benefited the wealthy, to be in any way responsible.

Well, Democrats never care.  In fact, There isn't a government program they don't think isn't underfunded.  

[Boges]

27 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

LMAO - this coming from the guy who got sucked in by LITERALLY EVER STUPID LIE THAT THE LIBERAL MSM HAS PROPAGATED OVER THE LAST 3 YEARS!!!!!!!

Russian collusion, Rayshard Brooks was murdered, Dr Ford, H Biden did nothing wrong in China and Joe didn't know, H Biden did nothing wrong in Ukraine and Joe didn't know, HCQ IS A KILLER, get the vaccine, Trudeau did everything right fighting covid by keeping travel open & banning masks and then when he blocked travel and started telling people to wear masks he was right again, the riots were peaceful, Trump's anti-semitism inspired the Pennsylvania killings, etc....

Back to Dr. Ford. 

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For your edification: in the US they issue more tests per capita than Canada, so even if the number of active cases in both countries was the exact same, they would appear higher in the US because more people get tested, per capita. Eg, if the US and Canada both had a population of 1M people, and they all had covid, the US would have between 2,000 and 2,500 positives because they do 2-2.5 tests per thousand people. Canada would only have 1,000 - 1,500 positives because they do 1-1.5 tests per 100K people. 

FYI the US has ten x our population and they do twice as many tests per 1K than us, so if both countries had the same infection rate then the US would still have (nearly) 20x the number of active cases. That's because they have 10x the population and they do 2x as many tests. (I say 'nearly' because a certain percentage of people who get tested because some of the people tested are taking the test because they have symptoms)

Of course the US had a spike in cases. They had rioters and protestors all across the country sharing covid ("protestors don't spread covid but every other group of people in the world does" lol, another idiotic leftist MSM fantasy that sucked morons in).

 

Blame the protestors again.  IT'S AUGUST!!!!!! There were protests in Canada and Europe too. 

Testing in the US is mostly useless. People who get tests often have to wait several days for results. https://fortune.com/2020/08/04/why-covid-19-testing-takes-so-long-coronavirus-test-results-labs-delays-us-how-long/

But let's just assume that the US was testing double what Canada is, but the level of infection was exactly the same. Which it's not. Hospitalization and death in Canada are constantly dropping. Meaning there are far fewer sick people. In Ontario, there are FORTY-THREE people in hospital with Covid-19. https://www.ontario.ca/page/how-ontario-is-responding-covid-19. 

Anyway, so double the testing. Consider the 10:1 Per capita thing. The US has about 50,000 positive tests a day. So that would mean if Canada was testing as much as the US and the infection rate was equal, we'd have 5,000 cases a day. But if we're only testing half as much then we'd have 2,500 cases a day. 

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Yesterday Canada had 423 reported positive cases. 

The US gets around 1,000 deaths a day (drops on the weekend). Yesterday Canada had 15, and that was a spike after several days under 10. 

Ontario regularly reports between 20-30k tests a day. They regularly have less than 100 positive cases a day. 

 

Edited August 13, 2020 by Boges

[Boges]

16 minutes ago, Shady said:

It's ok, Biden keeps repeating lies as well.  So do you.

Well let's tackle them then. 

Most of the things you accuse me of lying about are subjective things like the definition of blackballing. 

[WestCanMan]

10 minutes ago, Boges said:

Back to Dr. Ford. 

It's actually "back to the laundry list of times that you got sucked in by the leftist MSM".

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Blame the protestors again.  IT'S AUGUST!!!!!! There were protests in Canada and Europe too. 

Yes, because they spread covid. That fact doesn't go away, and the positives from 'protest day' come from 7 to 14 days after the event. Then there's all the people who got covid from protestors, etc. It's a wave of infections that come from mixing people from all different areas of the cities/suburbs/rural areas and then they go back and spread the infections. 

Now ya know. 

[Boges]

31 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

It's actually "back to the laundry list of times that you got sucked in by the leftist MSM".

How about you argue issues that are at hand and not copy and paste a previous list of issues you have that have nothing to do with what's being discussed. 

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Yes, because they spread covid. That fact doesn't go away, and the positives from 'protest day' come from 7 to 14 days after the event. Then there's all the people who got covid from protestors, etc. It's a wave of infections that come from mixing people from all different areas of the cities/suburbs/rural areas and then they go back and spread the infections. 

Now ya know. 

 

Sure. But partying and going to bars and not wearing masks also contributes to the outbreak. 

You can only spread COVID through protesting? If you're doing something productive for the economy, you can't? 

For example the Sturgis Rally that happened on the Weekend. If that's not a Super Spreader, I don't know what one is. 

[Argus]

2 hours ago, Shady said:

Well, Democrats never care.  In fact, There isn't a government program they don't think isn't underfunded.  

Oh I think you're wrong. And that's another danger.

The program they might want to cut and cut heavily is called -- Defense.