DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, Boges said: Dunno, maybe allowing the FBI from being able to ban a guy, who they had concerns, about from getting an AR15. That's a start. The same FBI that seems to be operating beyond the President's control? Hmmmm...pass. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: The same FBI that seems to be operating beyond the President's control? Hmmmm...pass. So the POTUS is supposed to control the workings of Law Enforcement agencies now? Guess that whole Checks and Balances thing isn't how Trump likes to roll. Also the same FBI that just indicted 13 people for trying to rig the US Election. Edited February 16, 2018 by Boges Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, Boges said: Dunno, maybe allowing the FBI from being able to ban a guy, who they had concerns, about from getting an AR15. That's a start. Unconstitutional....FBI doesn't ban citizen's rights. Due process.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, Boges said: So the POTUS is supposed to control the workings of Law Enforcement agencies now? Guess that whole Checks and Balances thing isn't how Trump likes to roll. The FBI is NOT an independent body free of the President...unless you LIKE J. Edgar and his witch hunts. 1 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Boges Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Unconstitutional....FBI doesn't ban citizen's rights. Due process.... Back to my initial point. Price of Freedom. Those students don't really matter all that much. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, Boges said: Back to my initial point. Price of Freedom. Those students don't really matter all that much. Thousands in Chicago/Detroit sure don't. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, Boges said: Back to my initial point. Price of Freedom. Those students don't really matter all that much. A lot more Americans have died to protect constitutional rights. The students are homicide victims, same as many others. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: The FBI is NOT an independent body free of the President...unless you LIKE J. Edgar and his witch hunts. Right, he gets to appoint the head of the FBI. . and fire them. Trump can end the investigation into Russian tampering today if he wants. So don't know where you're getting this. He just can't because the optics are awful. Thread drift however. Quote
Boges Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: A lot more Americans have died to protect constitutional rights. The students are homicide victims, same as many others. I know your position. My post was it'd be refreshing is GOP politicians were similarly as candid. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, Boges said: Right, he gets to appoint the head of the FBI. . and fire them. Trump can end the investigation into Russian tampering today if he wants. So don't know where you're getting this. He just can't because the optics are awful. Thread drift however. The FBI is not the Gestapo...my point. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, Boges said: I know your position. My post was it'd be refreshing is GOP politicians were similarly as candid. Republicans are part of the same diseased swamp. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Kerfuffle Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Posted February 16, 2018 5 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: The same FBI that seems to be operating beyond the President's control? Hmmmm...pass. The word seems is the operative....when you get caught you whine your being picked on....you know like Trump Gun control Chris_Rock-_Bullet_Control.mp4 1 Quote
Boges Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: The FBI is not the Gestapo...my point. No ICE is the Gestapo. Would you not support the FBI stepping in if someone with a Muslim name bought a large quantity of fertilizer? Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, Kerfuffle said: The word seems is the operative....when you get caught you whine your being picked on....you know like Trump Gun control Chris_Rock-_Bullet_Control.mp4 Like many Canadians, yo seem keen on allowing Big Brother decide for you. The FBI would never do us wrong........ Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, Boges said: No ICE is the Gestapo. Would you not support the FBI stepping in if someone with a Muslim name bought a large quantity of fertilizer? Nobody existing today is the GESTAPO. But they could be if you wish. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Kerfuffle Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Like many Canadians, yo seem keen on allowing Big Brother decide for you. The FBI would never do us wrong........ Big brother has served me well until now real well in fact....but i dont have any anarchistic ideas to distort my views on life that goes for religion also Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, Kerfuffle said: Big brother has served me well until now real well in fact....but i dont have any anarchistic ideas to distort my views on life that goes for religion also Read it before it's too late for you. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) More Canadians have emigrated to gun crazy America than Americans going to "safe" Canada...for long time. ...and America has 10X the population. Edited February 16, 2018 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 7 minutes ago, Boges said: Would you not support the FBI stepping in if someone with a Muslim name bought a large quantity of fertilizer? What's a 'Muslim name'? Anybody can convert to Islam. It's easy: see our PM. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
eyeball Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Give us your vision of how 'gun control' will work. Speaking for myself and ss discussed multiple times in the past around here. Mandatory storage of guns at public armouries. A hail-out hail-in system using GPS enabled trigger locks coded to release at the designated gun club/hunting preserves guns are being transported to. And what Boges said, stop selling militarized weapons to the public. Above all else though you need the will to control guns in the first place. With out that there's really little to discuss. Edited February 16, 2018 by eyeball 1 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Kerfuffle Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Posted February 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: More Canadians have emigrated to gun crazy America than Americans going to "safe" Canada...for long time. ...and America has 10X the population. We are not building walls to keep our citizens in lol...Remember this...Mr Gorbachev tear this wall dowm Quote
DogOnPorch Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, eyeball said: Speaking for myself and ss discussed multiple times in multiple threads... Mandatory storage of guns at public armouries. A hail-out hail-in system using GPS enabled trigger locks coded to release at the designated gun club/hunting preserves guns are being transported to. And what Boges said, stop selling militarized weapons to the public. Sounds an awful lot like control by an entity that is NOT ME. If folks want this sort of control, perhaps we can work-out some exchange with North Korea. We'll take some of their wretches clamoring for freedom...and we can replace them with eager volunteers. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Michael Hardner Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 2 hours ago, ?Impact said: What makes you say that, I think the horse shit is only getting deeper and deeper every year. The more access people have, the more the horse shit seems to grow. I suspect the second shooter theory will take off in the next couple of days as people latch onto what this girl said. The Kennedy conspiracy bullshit is dying with every flaccid release of 'Unclassified' files Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Kerfuffle Posted February 16, 2018 Author Report Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, DogOnPorch said: Sounds an awful lot like control by an entity that is NOT ME. If folks want this sort of control, perhaps we can work-out some exchange with North Korea. We'll take some of their wretches clamoring for freedom...and we can replace them with eager volunteers. Be careful....you made a deal like that with Cuba and Castro emptied his prisons and sent you boat loads of undesirables...Brilliant:) Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 16, 2018 Report Posted February 16, 2018 Just now, Kerfuffle said: We are not building walls to keep our citizens in lol...Remember this...Mr Gorbachev tear this wall dowm They wouldn't stay in Canada anyway....many Canadians want better opportunities with better pay, and less taxation. Point stands: More Canadians emigrate or have work visas in the "gun crazy" USA. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
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