kactus Posted February 25, 2017 Report Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, drummindiver said: Here you go. You're welcome O Allah!] Give us victory over the disbelieving people… O Allah! Give victory to Islam and raise the standing the Muslims. And humiliate the polytheism and polytheists. O Allah! Give victory (help) to your slaves who believe in the oneness of Allah, O the Lord of the Worlds!O Allah! Give them victory over the criminal people. O Allah! Destroy anyone who killed Muslims. O Allah! Destroy anyone who displaced the sons of the Muslims. O Allah! Count their number; slay them one by one and spare not one of them. O Allah! Purify Al-Aqsa Mosque from the filth of the Jews! O Allah! Purify Al-Aqsa Mosque from the filth of the Jews! If you want to open another thread to open discussion on Al-Aqsa mosque and israel/ palestinian issue go ahead! But to bring that up here to link it to Iran versus US does not open a valid discussion point but a derailment from topic.... Edited February 25, 2017 by kactus Quote
drummindiver Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Posted February 25, 2017 On Friday, February 24, 2017 at 4:28 AM, kactus said: These types of articles usually are same way their selected target audience go at any length to make the mud stick... Poor journalism.... What has this response about the quality of journalism got to do with Iran? 2 Quote
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drummindiver Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, kactus said: If you want to open another thread to open discussion on Al-Aqsa mosque and israel/ palestinian issue go ahead! But to bring that up here to link it to Iran versus US does not open a valid discussion point but a derailment from topic.... Thank you for your moderation. I was asked to show where the term kill filthy jews" was and I obliged. Edited February 25, 2017 by drummindiver 1 Quote
GostHacked Posted February 25, 2017 Report Posted February 25, 2017 1 hour ago, drummindiver said: What has this response about the quality of journalism got to do with Iran? It's got everything to do with it. Considering the so called journalism that got the US into Iraq back in 2006. Even back then the main stream media was engaging in fake news. 2 Quote
drummindiver Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Posted February 25, 2017 6 minutes ago, GostHacked said: It's got everything to do with it. Considering the so called journalism that got the US into Iraq back in 2006. Even back then the main stream media was engaging in fake news. There was a link to quotes, and that rhetoric was what the article was about. Even msm can't mess that up. Unless you're CNN Quote
kactus Posted February 25, 2017 Report Posted February 25, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, drummindiver said: What has this response about the quality of journalism got to do with Iran? A lot to do with it... The ambiguity and heresay does not tantamount to real facts. Something that certain members take for granted and represent like a parrot to claim is true.... i retract not bad journalism but awful journalism sensationalising to reach their core base. You obviously felt for that... Edited February 25, 2017 by kactus 1 Quote
drummindiver Posted February 25, 2017 Author Report Posted February 25, 2017 1 hour ago, kactus said: A lot to do with it... The ambiguity and heresay does not tantamount to real facts. Something that certain members take for granted and represent like a parrot to claim is true.... i retract not bad journalism but awful journalism sensationalising to reach their core base. You obviously felt for that... Turn it into a personal attack but the FACT is that he said these things, and this has been reported by virtually every news agency in the world. You're right, I fell for the FACT Iran hates Israel. Silly me. Quote
kactus Posted February 25, 2017 Report Posted February 25, 2017 12 minutes ago, drummindiver said: Turn it into a personal attack but the FACT is that he said these things, and this has been reported by virtually every news agency in the world. You're right, I fell for the FACT Iran hates Israel. Silly me. Twist it all you like. This is not a personal attack. I just don't feel it adds any value trying to highlight a view when it is taken out of context...Yes we know certain factions in iranian government are not exactly found of Israeli government but to say that all jews are hated based on someone's interpretations is disingenious.... Quote
marcus Posted May 31, 2017 Report Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) If you ever wanted a video that fully demonstrated the irrationality of America's Iran policy, this one does it in the most hilarious way! Edited May 10, 2018 by Charles Anthony merged 1 Quote "What do you think of Western civilization?" Gandhi was asked. "I think it would be a good idea," he said.
kactus Posted May 31, 2017 Report Posted May 31, 2017 Ermmmmm...... wtf is he on about???? What a schmuck! 1 Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted May 31, 2017 Report Posted May 31, 2017 Wow that guy needs to go back to double-talk school. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
CITIZEN_2015 Posted July 12, 2017 Report Posted July 12, 2017 What a total moron (and I restrain myself from using the 4 letter word he well deserves) indeed very Well representing the idiotic Trump administration though, Saudi Arabia represents extremism of the worst kind where a Wahhabi regime is the source of terrorism against the US and the world and the idiot US president sits next to them and praises them for democracy in the country where women have no basic rights and a few who defy strict Wahhabi rules of hijab are threatened with execution and now this total moron who represents the US governments is acting like a total retard in answering to a question which there is no answer but to admit that the US and Trump administration is a total hypocrisy and a bunch of complete morons and idiots. Quote
OftenWrong Posted July 15, 2017 Report Posted July 15, 2017 On 2017-07-12 at 4:50 PM, CITIZEN_2015 said: What a total moron (and I restrain myself from using the 4 letter word he well deserves) indeed very Well representing the idiotic Trump administration though, Saudi Arabia represents extremism of the worst kind where a Wahhabi regime is the source of terrorism against the US and the world and the idiot US president sits next to them and praises them for democracy in the country where women have no basic rights and a few who defy strict Wahhabi rules of hijab are threatened with execution and now this total moron who represents the US governments is acting like a total retard in answering to a question which there is no answer but to admit that the US and Trump administration is a total hypocrisy and a bunch of complete morons and idiots. Well this policy stance toward Iran and Saudi Arabia goes back a lot further than recent times. Also, while you are probably right about SA, everything you said is also probably true word for word about Iran. There's no reason to embrace them as friends or good guys. So finally the decision cannot rest on whether or not they let little girls go to school, that is a joke to make ignorant liberals feel good about western motivations. I suspect it has more to do with who is willing to cooperate with us in business, economy and global security and who is making statements like "Death to the Great Satan". Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted July 15, 2017 Report Posted July 15, 2017 3 hours ago, OftenWrong said: Well this policy stance toward Iran and Saudi Arabia goes back a lot further than recent times. Also, while you are probably right about SA, everything you said is also probably true word for word about Iran. There's no reason to embrace them as friends or good guys. So finally the decision cannot rest on whether or not they let little girls go to school, that is a joke to make ignorant liberals feel good about western motivations. I suspect it has more to do with who is willing to cooperate with us in business, economy and global security and who is making statements like "Death to the Great Satan". Where are the Iranian terrorists on the streets of Canada and Europe? I put more store on what people do than on what they say. Quote
betsy Posted May 10, 2018 Report Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) A full-page ad was ran on the NYT, and Stephen Harper is among the signatories. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/05/09/stephen-harper-donald-trump-new-york-times-iran-deal_a_23431071/ https://twitter.com/rafael_bardaji/status/994217340945469443/photo/1?tfw_creator=ziannlum&tfw_site=huffpostcanada&ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.ca%2F2018%2F05%2F09%2Fstephen-harper-donald-trump-new-york-times-iran-deal_a_23431071%2F The attack on Israel by Iran, just serves to underline how indeed Iran, is a danger to the world. It is evidence Iran had held Obama's government hostage to blackmail, or extortion. Iran practiced restraint only because it's getting what it demanded from that treaty. Edited May 10, 2018 by Charles Anthony merged; old OP title: "Mr President, You are right about Iran" Quote
BubberMiley Posted May 10, 2018 Report Posted May 10, 2018 Worst Prime Minister ever. 2 Quote "I think it's fun watching the waldick get all excited/knickers in a knot over something." -scribblet
GostHacked Posted May 10, 2018 Report Posted May 10, 2018 1 hour ago, betsy said: A full-page ad was ran on the NYT, and Stephen Harper is among the signatories. https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2018/05/09/stephen-harper-donald-trump-new-york-times-iran-deal_a_23431071/ https://twitter.com/rafael_bardaji/status/994217340945469443/photo/1?tfw_creator=ziannlum&tfw_site=huffpostcanada&ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.huffingtonpost.ca%2F2018%2F05%2F09%2Fstephen-harper-donald-trump-new-york-times-iran-deal_a_23431071%2F The attack on Israel by Iran, just serves to underline how indeed Iran, is a danger to the world. It is evidence Iran had held Obama's government hostage to blackmail, or extortion. Iran practiced restraint only because it's getting what it demanded from that treaty. Right, we've heard it all before that yet another M.E. nation needs to be pummeled into the ground. I predict some lies regarding Iran in the next 6 months that will get the war machine ramped up even more. Let's go with a bullshit false claim of a chemical attack, or something to do with their nuclear facilities. I am wondering how many times people can be fooled over a 20 year span that has gotten western nations into wars based on lies. Let's not forget that Israel has made several attacks on Iran. The Stuxnet virus was a perfect example of Israel attacking Iran. The US pulling out of the nuclear deal with Iran will allow the USA to simply say 'screw it' and they will now soon attack Iran directly with the military. Most likely special ops first to stir up some shit and claim there is a civil war within the nation and we need to help. Watch out for the lies, there will be plenty of them. Quote
eyeball Posted May 10, 2018 Report Posted May 10, 2018 3 hours ago, GostHacked said: Most likely special ops first to stir up some shit and claim there is a civil war within the nation and we need to help. Worked in 53, sorta. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Centerpiece Posted May 10, 2018 Report Posted May 10, 2018 What does it take to make people understand that Iran cannot be trusted? They count on Western "diplomacy" to give them time and advantages to continually take two steps forward and only one step back. Take the 4 "de-escalation" (AKA ceasefire) zones in Syria agreed to be Iran, Russia and Turkey. The Iran-backed Syrian government respected some but not others - and only when it was advantageous to do so. By respecting one or two of the zones (no fighting), they could move their fighters and equipment to other ceasefire zones and break the agreement. Give them an inch and they take a mile - and that's what the naive Iran/EU/US deal did - as Israeli intelligence has clearly proven. As with North Korea, sending the message that "enough games, the dance is over" may eventually bear fruit. Lord knows, diplomacy has gotten us nowhere, including the toothless Iran/EU/US "deal". Time will tell. Quote
GostHacked Posted May 11, 2018 Report Posted May 11, 2018 5 hours ago, eyeball said: Worked in 53, sorta. Those who do not learn history, are doomed to repeat it. We have not learned anything in the last 20 years, so are we surprised that no one will go back that far? It's like it is to far back in history for some, but yet we see Mufti trotted out often. Remembering certain parts of history while conveniently disregarding the rest of it. Now you gotta wonder what lies got the ball rolling with WWI and WWII..... Quote
eyeball Posted May 11, 2018 Report Posted May 11, 2018 10 minutes ago, GostHacked said: Those who do not learn history, are doomed to repeat it. We have not learned anything in the last 20 years, so are we surprised that no one will go back that far? It's like it is to far back in history for some, but yet we see Mufti trotted out often. Remembering certain parts of history while conveniently disregarding the rest of it. I don't know, people just as often go to the ends of time to explain our stake in things - It's just a hop skip and a jump from the Mufti to the west's death struggle with the forces of Big Mo Himself. We're the victims here remember? Quote Now you gotta wonder what lies got the ball rolling with WWI and WWII..... Ten bucks says it was a goddamn lefty. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
bush_cheney2004 Posted May 11, 2018 Report Posted May 11, 2018 Why President Trump was right to vacate the Iran "deal".... Quote Of all the arguments for the Trump administration to honor the nuclear deal with Iran, none was more risible than the claim that we gave our word as a country to keep it. “Our”? The Obama administration refused to submit the deal to Congress as a treaty, knowing it would never get two-thirds of the Senate to go along. Just 21 percent of Americans approved of the deal at the time it went through, against 49 percent who did not, according to a Pew poll. The agreement “passed” on the strength of a 42-vote Democratic filibuster, against bipartisan, majority opposition. http://www.startribune.com/trump-was-right-to-vacate-iran-nuclear-deal/482334921/ Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kactus Posted May 11, 2018 Report Posted May 11, 2018 On 7/15/2017 at 5:55 AM, SpankyMcFarland said: Where are the Iranian terrorists on the streets of Canada and Europe? I put more store on what people do than on what they say. Whilst that may be true there are those misinformed ones that cannot distinguish between the Iranian people and their government. Oh even Trump made that distinction recently in his speech just to make himself not look like one of those misguided individuals hell bent to fabricate fake news. Quote
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