Michael Hardner Posted January 18, 2020 Report Posted January 18, 2020 On 1/17/2020 at 2:52 PM, Boges said: So who here really believes Trump has no idea who Lev Parnas is? He's hired a whip smart 81-year old lawyer so stand back. Also the guy's implicated in the Epstein affair but... Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
Queenmandy85 Posted January 18, 2020 Report Posted January 18, 2020 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Trump is simply the most recent albeit the most telling symptom of America's descent into its next civil-war. Such a conflict as that would be an unimaginable catastrophe. I believe the Americans are way smarter than that. Most of the wild talk is just that. Quote A Conservative stands for God, King and Country
OftenWrong Posted January 25, 2020 Report Posted January 25, 2020 Schiff really blew it with his “head on a pike” remark. Also pathetic is the persistent focus on the polls and the effect this has on the election. Makes it quite obvious, to everyone, what this was about. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 Trump wins again.....driving liberals nuts one court ruling at a time: Quote WASHINGTON — The U.S. Supreme Court issued an order Monday allowing the Trump administration to begin enforcing new limits on immigrants who are considered likely to become overly dependent on government benefit programs. https://www.aol.com/article/news/2020/01/27/scotus-allows-new-limits-on-immigrant-aid/23910592/ Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kactus Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump wins again.....driving liberals nuts one court ruling at a time: In all honesty BC why should that come as a surprise to you to score over liberals!? Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 25 minutes ago, kactus said: In all honesty BC why should that come as a surprise to you to score over liberals!? Who says it was a surprise....more like a victory lap ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 NATO deadbeat France issues a "strong warning" to the Pentagon....America must continue to pay most of the bill for counterterrorism in West Africa: Quote French Defense Minister Florence Parly said she warned her U.S. counterpart during a visit to the Pentagon that joint counterterrorism efforts in West Africa would be harmed by cuts to U.S. military assistance.... The possibility of cuts has alarmed France, which relies on U.S. intelligence and logistics for its 4,500-strong mission in the Sahel. The deaths of 13 French soldiers in a helicopter crash during a combat mission in Mali in November increased France’s determination to secure more support in the zone. https://www.yahoo.com/news/france-urges-u-stay-fight-143622220.html Deadbeats are always alarmed when they have to pay the bill. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Zeitgeist Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 Let’s see what Bolton has to say and whether enough of the Senste will swing towards impeachment. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said: Let’s see what Bolton has to say and whether enough of the Senste will swing towards impeachment. Trump has already been impeached...that's forever. But this GOP Senate will not convict. No crimes have been proven. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Yzermandius19 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Let’s see what Bolton has to say and whether enough of the Senste will swing towards impeachment. If you think there is any chance of the Senate removing Trump from office because of Bolton, you will really grasp at any straw if you can delude yourself into thinking "Trump is done now". Quote
Zeitgeist Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump has already been impeached...that's forever. But this GOP Senate will not convict. No crimes have been proven. Bolton has said there was clear cut quid pro quo. If he testifies, Trump may be on the ropes. Edited January 28, 2020 by Zeitgeist Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Bolton has said there was clear cut quid pro quo. If he testifies, Trump may be on the ropes. Trump will not be on the ropes whether he testifies or not. Wishful thinking is a helluva drug. Edited January 28, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Zeitgeist Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Yzermandius19 said: Trump will not be on the ropes whether he testifies or not. Wishful thinking is a helluva drug. I wouldn’t be so sure. Trump is looking more like a mafia boss these days. Bolton can’t take back what he’s written. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Bolton has said there was clear cut quid pro quo. If he testifies, Trump may be on the ropes. Military aid was still released to Ukraine. No U.S. Senate wants to be the first in U.S. history to convict absent a proven crime. Hell, Bill Clinton actually committed a crime and he was still not convicted. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Yzermandius19 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: I wouldn’t be so sure. Trump is looking more like a mafia boss these days. Bolton can’t take back what he’s written. How many more times are you going to put your hand on the stove of "Trump is done now" assuming you aren't going to get burned? You never learn, the media jumps from one "bombshell" to the next, assuming it will be the end of Trump, and you believe them every single time, no matter how many times they are wrong about it. You keep doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results, some would call that insanity. Edited January 28, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote
Zeitgeist Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Military aid was still released to Ukraine. No U.S. Senate wants to be the first in U.S. history to convict absent a proven crime. Hell, Bill Clinton actually committed a crime and he was still not convicted. Does anyone really care about Lewinski’s blowjob? We’re talking about 100’s of millions in defence aid being held back for personal political reasons. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Zeitgeist said: Does anyone really care about Lewinski’s blowjob? We’re talking about 100’s of millions in defence aid being held back for personal political reasons. So what ? Nothing special about Ukraine's defense troubles with Russia and rebels. Clinton perjured himself in a federal deposition and obstructed justice...proven crimes. Trump haters are just going to have to beat him the old fashioned way...at the polls. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Zeitgeist Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, Yzermandius19 said: How many more times are you going to put your hand on the stove of "Trump is done now" assuming you aren't going to get burned? You never learn, the media jumps from one "bombshell" to the next, assuming it will be the end of Trump, and you believe them every single time, no matter how many times they are wrong about it. Keep getting burned, and never learn, complete insanity. It’s your funeral pal. Be careful what you wish for. Trump could dodge it all and get re-elected after these serious allegations, which are basically verified, or soon will be. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Zeitgeist said: It’s your funeral pal. Be careful what you wish for. Trump could dodge it all and get re-elected after these serious allegations, which are basically verified, or soon will be. Allegations are not proven crimes. That's just more politics, and Trump is winning that game. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Zeitgeist Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Allegations are not proven crimes. That's just more politics, and Trump is winning that game. It’s getting quite clear that he lied about committing a serious crime. Bolton is saying this happened. If he testifies and swings four Republicans in the Senate, Trump is caput. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Zeitgeist said: It’s getting quite clear that he lied about committing a serious crime. Bolton is saying this happened. If he testifies and swings four Republicans in the Senate, Trump is caput. No....that would just bring in witnesses. It takes 2/3rds of the Senate to CONVICT. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Zeitgeist Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: No....that would just bring in witnesses. It takes 2/3rds of the Senate to CONVICT. The testimony could be damning. At that point, President Pence pardons Trump, whose political career ends. Stranger things have happened. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 Just now, Zeitgeist said: The testimony could be damning. At that point, President Pence pardons Trump, whose political career ends. Stranger things have happened. ??? The full Senate will not convict Trump for the present articles of impeachment. The Democrats knew their case was weak going in, but wanted the political spectacle for partisan reasons, same as Clinton's impeachment. Impeachment has been weaponized.... Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Yzermandius19 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 6 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Does anyone really care about Lewinski’s blowjob? We’re talking about 100’s of millions in defence aid being held back for personal political reasons. All foreign policy decisions are made for political reasons, that is not an impeachable offense. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted January 28, 2020 Report Posted January 28, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: It’s getting quite clear that he lied about committing a serious crime. Bolton is saying this happened. If he testifies and swings four Republicans in the Senate, Trump is caput. He needs to swing 20 Republican Senators, not four, it's not happening. Edited January 28, 2020 by Yzermandius19 Quote
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