bush_cheney2004 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, Boges said: But Insurance companies can. If you can't afford an amazing Insurance plan? What next? But I can afford an amazing insurance plan, and so can many other Americans. Health insurance products and benefits came out of the private sector to compete for workers during WW2. Where there is demand, the market will respond. A public and private mix works well in many other countries. Trump knows he can scare the hell out of many Americans with "socialized health care". Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Boges said: Crazy with admiration. . . mostly. How does any American candidate have that kind of power in Canada..love him or hate him ? WTF ? Trump (or Obama) didn't need the Canadian vote. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: How does any American candidate have that kind of power in Canada..love him or hate him ? WTF ? Trump (or Obama) didn't need the Canadian vote. A lot of places in the world liked Obama. This is what the world thinks of Trump. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 1 minute ago, Boges said: A lot of places in the world liked Obama. This is what the world thinks of Trump. But why does any American political figure have that kind of media attention and power in other nations ? Caring so much about what the world thinks is a Canadian value, not American. Trump has been very successful by any objective measure, doing it his way. Screw what the world thinks about it. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump has been very successful by any objective measure, doing it his way. Screw what the world thinks about it. Some of those "objective" measures, he mocked when attributed to Obama (Stock Market, Job Figures etc). The unemployment rate didn't start to drop when Trump came to office, it just continued to drop. https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/unemployment-rate Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, Boges said: Some of those "objective" measures, he mocked when attributed to Obama (Stock Market, Job Figures etc). The unemployment rate didn't start to drop when Trump came to office, it just continued to drop. So what ? Obama benefited from Bush era policies too. That is the continuity of American presidents, and Donald Trump is a U.S. president, doubling down on tax cuts, more debt, and packing the Supreme Court. When will you learn that you cannot corral Trump with previous rules and boundaries ? All you do from Canada is feed Trump's fire with more oxygen, and he loves it ! Canada be like....we hated Bush...we really really did...but now we hate Trump even more. Why give them that kind of power in another nation ? 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Yzermandius19 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 7 hours ago, Boges said: Just to be clear. Trump lost the popular vote. So he wasn't more popular than Hillary. The Trump Campaign hired Cambridge Analytica to target undecideds in swing states. Gotta give them credit, they strategized way better than the Dems. But he didn't come to power with some popular wave. Losing a game he did not play is irrelevant. Popular vote, who cares? 1 Quote
Spiderfish Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 31 minutes ago, Boges said: A lot of places in the world liked Obama. This is what the world thinks of Trump. Trump knows he's over the top rhetorical, the world knows he's over the top rhetorical, there are no secrets in that regard when it comes to Trump. I look at that clip and I see someone who doesn't take his own rhetoric too seriously, and it's is obvious he could not possibly care less what other world leaders think of him. Unlike Obama, this isn't a popularity contest for him, it's about shaking up the status quo which he appears to be doing quite effectively. I do find it interesting that the laughter sounded like nervous laughter, until he let off the pressure. 1 Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Boges said: A lot of places in the world liked Obama. This is what the world thinks of Trump. Much of the rest of world are pro-Democrat partisan hacks, whose media run hit pieces on Trump 24/7. Who cares what they think? Edited July 31, 2019 by Yzermandius19 1 Quote
Boges Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 17 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Canada be like....we hated Bush...we really really did...but now we hate Trump even more. Why give them that kind of power in another nation ? I think you take this Messageboarding a little too seriously. It's like a thread criticizing your leader is a shot at your pride. CANADA IS AGAINST ME And before you say you don't care, may I point out that you're the one consistently bitching about how you think Canada is obsessed with your country. This is a thread about Trump. 2 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 49 minutes ago, Boges said: I think you take this Messageboarding a little too seriously. It's like a thread criticizing your leader is a shot at your pride. CANADA IS AGAINST ME And before you say you don't care, may I point out that you're the one consistently bitching about how you think Canada is obsessed with your country. This is a thread about Trump. This forum is a small domain compared to the American content that is routinely consumed and regurgitated in Canadian media. Trump just dominates...so much so...Trudeau gets asked questions about...TRUMP ! I didn't even vote for Trump...he is a well known media huckster going back to the late 1970's. But he has used that power to not only become U.S. president, but to bait and hook people in other nations...again...and again...and again. Trump knows how to trigger them like no other. And they give him that power instead of just ignoring him. Even when they know exactly what Trump is doing, they sill get suckered in. Trump has already won...ten times over since 2015. Win or lose in 2020, he will always be the 45th President of the United States of America. 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Boges Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 13 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: This forum is a small domain compared to the American content that is routinely consumed and regurgitated in Canadian media. Trump just dominates...so much so...Trudeau gets asked questions about...TRUMP ! I didn't even vote for Trump...he is a well known media huckster going back to the late 1970's. But he has used that power to not only become U.S. president, but to bait and hook people in other nations...again...and again...and again. Trump knows how to trigger them like no other. And they give him that power instead of just ignoring him. Even when they know exactly what Trump is doing, they sill get suckered in. Trump has already won...ten times over since 2015. Win or lose in 2020, he will always be the 45th President of the United States of America. Then he goes to jail for Obstruction of Justice. Quote
DogOnPorch Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 Just now, Boges said: Then he goes to jail for Obstruction of Justice. Right after Queen Hillary for collusion with the Russians. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Yzermandius19 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 4 minutes ago, Boges said: Then he goes to jail for Obstruction of Justice. Not a chance. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, Boges said: Then he goes to jail for Obstruction of Justice. Again...so what....at even that very remote possibility. Trump is just another American president...why give him so much psychological power...in another country ? Nothing that could happen to Trump in the future will ever make up for the Mother of All Democrat Butt Hurts that happened in November 2016. MUST...GET...TRUMP !!!! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
OftenWrong Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 17 hours ago, eyeball said: Why is all this effort to reinterpret his words and make them more politically palatable being expended? So people like you don't have a heart attack. 1 Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) The only one's reinterpreting Trump's words are the side shouting racism from the rooftops, everyone else's reading comprehension is just fine. Edited July 31, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
GostHacked Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 3 hours ago, Boges said: So you're asking to prove a negative. You could at least provide the logic route of providing Healthcare for all Americans and Communism. Since, you know, all other developed countries have that level of Socialism. Perhaps the GOP are looking at Somalia for government model. I think DoP lives in Canada. If that is true then it's even more laughable he'd have a problem with universal health care. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, OftenWrong said: So people like you don't have a heart attack. Indeed...same as was done for Obama & Farrakhan, Bill and Hillary Clinton, Sleepy Joe, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, etc., etc. Suddenly it's bad because Trump is playing the same game....only better ? Edited July 31, 2019 by bush_cheney2004 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
OftenWrong Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 17 hours ago, eyeball said: Are you kidding? I'd probably spit on anyone I saw wearing a MAGA hat. I've yet to see one here in Canada The guy who fixed my roof last summer was wearing one. I asked him where he got it, said he bought it when he was in Florida. I'll tell you something else too that you ain't seen yet, many people in my little town actually LIKE Donald Trump, and are happy to see he won the US election versus Hillary. But then here in eastern ON there are many farmers, people not connected to the urban areas. Unlike big-city liberals such as yourself. Maybe you should get out a little more. Quote
OftenWrong Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 7 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: You can tell that the Russia gambit has failed because we're back to the standard 'Trump is a racist' meme. Exactly. Time for a distraction while we quietly move along... Quote
DogOnPorch Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 8 minutes ago, GostHacked said: I think DoP lives in Canada. If that is true then it's even more laughable he'd have a problem with universal health care. Oh...every Canadian loves the wait times to get procedures done that might involve life or death. I mean, what's NOT to like? It's free...right? You can have the best medical care in the world or you can have universal medical care. You can't have both. Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
DogOnPorch Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 Somebody spits on me and they'll get a demonstration of how much I dislike people spitting on me. It usually involves free dental. No, I don't care how big n' tough you are...I'm coming for yah, Billy. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Zeitgeist Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: Oh...every Canadian loves the wait times to get procedures done that might involve life or death. I mean, what's NOT to like? It's free...right? You can have the best medical care in the world or you can have universal medical care. You can't have both. Or you can spend ten times as much money in the US on insulin as you would in Canada. Canadian health care kicks in quite well when the early diagnostics deem that something serious may need to be addressed. Otherwise yes, you’ll have to wait three hours with other flu patients and hypochondriacs. That’s why we have walk-in clinics, to keep the nonsense out of hospitals. Yes we could use more doctors in rural areas and more diagnostic equipment, perhaps, but outcomes speak for themselves. Canada has a higher life expectancy and lower infant mortality rate. You can still pick your own doctor, and if you want to distinguish yourself with private service, it does exist. Edited July 31, 2019 by Zeitgeist Quote
DogOnPorch Posted July 31, 2019 Report Posted July 31, 2019 5 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said: Or you can spend ten times as much money in the US on insulin as you would in Canada. Canadian health care kicks in quite well when the early diagnostics deem that something serious may need to be addressed. Otherwise yes, you’ll have to wait three hours with other flu patients and hypochondriacs. That’s why we have walk-in clinics, to keep the nonsense out of hospitals. Yes we could use more doctors in rural areas and more diagnostic equipment, perhaps, but outcomes speak for themselves. Canada has a higher life expectancy and lower infant mortality rate. You can still pick your own doctor, and if you want to distinguish yourself with private service, it does exist. The ER here is a junkie infested Hell hole that nobody in their right mind would go to unless the bleeding simply would not stop. Walk-in clinics...same deal...junkies and their ilk. As far as the eye can see. Junkie, junkie, junkie... Did I mention the drug problem? Junkies! But thank goodness for free health care. Anyways...back to all Trump all the time. 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
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