GostHacked Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 7 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: I don't know why Canadians give America so much attention (compared to all other nations), but it is something that many Canadians and Canadian media routinely do. Doesn't mean that Americans must/should reciprocate. There are more American nationals born outside of the U.S. than Canada's entire population. Noisy neighbors make for a terrible neighborhood. Quote
GostHacked Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 9 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Such an obvious response. There's a low level of discussion coming from those who defend the indefensible. The 'gotcha' attempts around here are terrible. Weak arguments, weak replies, insults, ect, ect. I read many of the posts and cannot understand them because they are delivered terribly. It's part of the reason I don't post as often. There is simply no way to reply to much of what is posted here. 2 Quote
Michael Hardner Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 49 minutes ago, GostHacked said: There is simply no way to reply to much of what is posted here. I don't share values with people who see refugees as inhuman, or a threat somehow. There's no discussion there. 1 1 Quote Click to learn why Climate Change is caused by HUMANS Michael Hardner
WestCanMan Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 18 hours ago, GostHacked said: The hell you mean 'so'. You like selling military weapons to Saudi Arabia who will use them in incursions into other nations? I'd rather not interpret this as you supporting terrorism. Neither are acceptable. That's a false choice. Saudi Arabia has the biggest pocketbooks of any nation on earth. They will get weapons from Canada, China, the US, NoKo, France, GB, Russia, Germany or wherever else. It's completely inevitable. Do you think that you can somehow relegate SA to an eternity of demilitarization when they're sitting on a cash cow? You're partly right when you say "neither are acceptable", but at a time when SA was getting along reasonably well with the rest of the world and they wanted to buy weapons we made a deal that they could buy weapons from us. It happened more than 3 years ago. At what point do you back out of a deal? Do you have proof that the war in Yemen shouldn't be going on? As per part two of that, of course we shouldn't be taking in terrorists but the left is in power right now and that's what they do. It's the ultimate power move in the world of virtue-signalling. Quote Well good, at least you can understand the difference. It's a start. You're the one who didn't know that. You could thank me for the clarification of you want. Quote You are right, the USA never learns from it's mistakes. Wrong. You have such an infantile understanding of things. There are hundreds of people all making critical decisions in the theatre of war, in a matter of minutes or even seconds. When the flight profile of an airplane matches the attacking-flight profile of a fighter jet and they don't answer their radio they force people to make tough decisions. In this case, as with almost every recent man-made catastrophe, there was a series of flaws involving human error (did the flight crew really just neglect to listen to their radio in a militarized zone? Is that a thing that pilots sometimes do?) which all conspired to put one person in a position to make a critical decision. It's impossible to stop things like that from happening. One idea that you lefties might want to kick around in your little echo chamber - how do you reconcile the two options of: 1) leaving all of our oil in the ground and getting all the oil we need from the middle east and 2) despising the middle eastern countries so much that we can't sell them weapons..... Do you guys realize that the people on earth with the money get to buy the weapons? Do you realize how much worse off we would be economically if we had left all of our own oil in the ground and imported all of our energy this whole time? We wouldn't be bargaining or debating with other countries, we would be begging. Your talking points are all literally garbage. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 10 hours ago, eyeball said: Others are also using the term inhumane to describe conditions in America's refugee detention centers. They're all just playing up too? Do you even have a clue what you're reading? The Rep Congressman just said that the border detention centers are overwhelmed. That's a fact, not an indictment. They're only overwhelmed because of the left's past and current actions/statements. Again, that's a fact, not an accusation. The AP's opinion is politically-motivated and stupid. Hence your appreciation of their quote. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
GostHacked Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Saudi Arabia has the biggest pocketbooks of any nation on earth. They will get weapons from Canada, China, the US, NoKo, France, GB, Russia, Germany or wherever else. It's completely inevitable. Do you think that you can somehow relegate SA to an eternity of demilitarization when they're sitting on a cash cow? So as long as the Saudis buy weapons with their oil money (while manipulating global markets via a cartel) you are ok with it? That's disgusting and deplorable while saying what I post is infantile. Gotcha. 12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You're partly right when you say "neither are acceptable", but at a time when SA was getting along reasonably well with the rest of the world and they wanted to buy weapons we made a deal that they could buy weapons from us. It happened more than 3 years ago. At what point do you back out of a deal? Do you have proof that the war in Yemen shouldn't be going on? Not partly right, absolutely right. War SHOULD NEVER BE GOING ON. 12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: As per part two of that, of course we shouldn't be taking in terrorists but the left is in power right now and that's what they do. It's the ultimate power move in the world of virtue-signalling. But we ARE. We are selling weapons TO terrorists (aka Saudi Arabia) 12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: You're the one who didn't know that. You could thank me for the clarification of you want. I do that now and then to see if the other person is paying attention or understands their own talking points. 12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Wrong. You have such an infantile understanding of things. *yawn* 12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: There are hundreds of people all making critical decisions in the theatre of war, in a matter of minutes or even seconds. When the flight profile of an airplane matches the attacking-flight profile of a fighter jet and they don't answer their radio they force people to make tough decisions. In this case, as with almost every recent man-made catastrophe, there was a series of flaws involving human error (did the flight crew really just neglect to listen to their radio in a militarized zone? Is that a thing that pilots sometimes do?) which all conspired to put one person in a position to make a critical decision. It's impossible to stop things like that from happening. So how does a nation operate when a foreign entity is surrounding that nation with a war zone they created 20 years ago with the start of the War on Terror? Afghanistan (a failed state that is falling back to terrorists) on one side, and Iraq (another failed state caused by the USA war on terrorism) And surrounding them in their own waters just looking for any reason to bomb them. Was interesting to see Trump call off the last strike indicating it will kill about 150 people. He knows that he can kill way more people with new sanctions on Iran. 12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: One idea that you lefties might want to kick around in your little echo chamber - how do you reconcile the two options of: 1) leaving all of our oil in the ground and getting all the oil we need from the middle east and 2) despising the middle eastern countries so much that we can't sell them weapons..... I cannot answer this terribly proposed question. Please clarify what you mean. 12 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Do you guys realize that the people on earth with the money get to buy the weapons? Do you realize how much worse off we would be economically if we had left all of our own oil in the ground and imported all of our energy this whole time? We wouldn't be bargaining or debating with other countries, we would be begging. Your talking points are all literally garbage. If the USA's actions were consistent in the M.E. and who they deal with and why, then you would have a point. Until then , you are not fooling anyone here. Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 Another one bites the dust....President Trump wins "Emoluments Clause" lawsuit: Quote In a legal victory for President Trump, a federal appeals court panel today ordered the dismissal of a lawsuit alleging that profits earned by his Washington hotel while he is in office violate the Constitution. RICHMOND, Va. — A federal appeals courtthrew outa lawsuit accusing President Donald Trump ofillegally profiting off the presidencythrough his luxury Washington hotel, handing Trump a significant legal victory Wednesday. http://www.startribune.com/us-appeals-court-sides-with-trump-in-lawsuit-involving-hotel/512529012/ But don't worry Trump haters....he will be impeached any day now, right ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: The Rep Congressman just said that the border detention centers are overwhelmed. That's a fact, not an indictment. They're only overwhelmed because of the left's past and current actions/statements. Again, that's a fact, not an accusation. The AP's opinion is politically-motivated and stupid. Hence your appreciation of their quote. Ok, I hear you, even a Republican Congressman is still too much of a lefty to be trusted as a source. What about the CATO Institute or is it just another virtue signalling fake right-wing poser in your estimation? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Dougie93 Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 31 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Another one bites the dust....President Trump wins "Emoluments Clause" lawsuit: But don't worry Trump haters....he will be impeached any day now, right ? The Liberal Media Party only has two stories, Vietnam and Watergate. If they don't actually have a Vietnam nor a Watergate, they fabricate them. It never gets to the reveal, it just goes on and on as a prop. Quote
taxme Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Did we not see a government lawyer saying they didn't have a right to basic cleanliness ? Those criminal illegals have no rights to anything. They all broke the law. Why do you think that an illegal immigrant should have the rights to anything? They already have shown that laws mean nothing to them. Are you of the belief that all those criminal illegals that entered Canada illegally in the last few years should have rights? The only right that should be given to them is the right to be sent out of the country on the next plane back to where they came from. That would be a lot less tax dollars being blown on those criminals than keeping them around for years for free which would cost a hell of a lot more tax dollars than a plane ticket would cost. Geez, as a taxpayer in Canada, I would even go as far as to buy them a meal at the airport that they will be flying out of. Pretty decent of this uneducated bottom feeding racist, eh? Lol. Quote
taxme Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, eyeball said: Ok, I hear you, even a Republican Congressman is still too much of a lefty to be trusted as a source. What about the CATO Institute or is it just another virtue signalling fake right-wing poser in your estimation? 46 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Another one bites the dust....President Trump wins "Emoluments Clause" lawsuit: But don't worry Trump haters....he will be impeached any day now, right ? Another win for Trump. America has one hell of a "make America great again" President as it's protector and leader. On the contrary, here in Canada, we have a prime mistake that is going all in in trying to make this country not so great anymore. Having a pretty much communist dictator for PM of Canada who once said that he admires communist China is quite concerning. And buying out the loyalty of the Canadian pro leftist liberal media should tell us all that freedom of the press is no more in Canada. I now call our media "Pravda" media. At least we know that Trump would never try to deny the media the right to their opinions even if they do hurt Trump because Trump believes in freedom of speech. Our dear leader does not. I am smoking Hopium these days and hoping and praying that Trump and the People's Party of Canada can win their next elections. I know Trump will win the next election. I am not sure about the PPC party but I will keep smoking Hopium in the hope that the PPC party does win the next election. If that happens then freedom of speech will have survived a commie anti-free speech bullet. Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 7 hours ago, GostHacked said: So as long as the Saudis buy weapons with their oil money (while manipulating global markets via a cartel) you are ok with it? That's disgusting and deplorable while saying what I post is infantile. Gotcha. Lmao. What a moronic interpretation. That's why I say that your posts are infantile. Quote Not partly right, absolutely right. War SHOULD NEVER BE GOING ON. OMG. People can start war against you. Do things that make war necessary. But you can't fight back then or you're the guilty party? Quote But we ARE. We are selling weapons TO terrorists (aka Saudi Arabia) Dude that's not even remotely related to the sentences above. Are you high? Quote I do that now and then to see if the other person is paying attention or understands their own talking points. Yeah ok GH. You're 100% wrong about everything else but you were just testing me that time lol. Quote So how does a nation operate when a foreign entity is surrounding that nation with a war zone they created 20 years ago with the start of the War on Terror? Afghanistan (a failed state that is falling back to terrorists) on one side, and Iraq (another failed state caused by the USA war on terrorism) And surrounding them in their own waters just looking for any reason to bomb them. Was interesting to see Trump call off the last strike indicating it will kill about 150 people. He knows that he can kill way more people with new sanctions on Iran. Nations just operate in whatever conditions exist I guess. Quote I cannot answer this That's right. It's ridiculous to say "we can buy their oil instead of extracting our own, but we can't sell them weapons. We need to let them buy their weapons from NoKo, Russia or China." Quote If the USA's actions were consistent in the M.E. and who they deal with and why, then you would have a point. Until then , you are not fooling anyone here. Again, you answer is a total non sequitur. It's like you're talking about something else entirely. 1 Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 4 hours ago, eyeball said: Ok, I hear you, even a Republican Congressman is still too much of a lefty to be trusted as a source. That's not at all what I said. Are you daft? The R C basically amounted to the fact that the centers were overwhelmed. That's normal when one of the two major political parties is actively encouraging a rush to the border and blocking funding at the same time. That doesn't mean that there is intentional inhumanity there, like forcing people to drink out of toilets. That is NOT HAPPENING. AOC is a lying loser and you're her toady. Get a clue. Quote What about the CATO Institute or is it just another virtue signalling fake right-wing poser in your estimation? If your quote is a reasonable characterization of their position, then yes. I haven't seen anything that they said aside from your blurb, which is farcical, so I can't really give them a fair overll assessment. Misquoting people is almost normal now. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 10, 2019 Report Posted July 10, 2019 1 minute ago, WestCanMan said: The R C basically amounted to the fact that the centers were overwhelmed. That's normal when one of the two major political parties is actively encouraging a rush to the border and blocking funding at the same time. True....and why is that OK for Ontario hospital emergency rooms ? Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
eyeball Posted July 11, 2019 Report Posted July 11, 2019 24 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: If your quote is a reasonable characterization of their position, then yes. I haven't seen anything that they said aside from your blurb, which is farcical, so I can't really give them a fair overll assessment. The CATO Institute is a virtue signalling fake right-wing poser. I didn't think even you could make this stuff up but...your pigheaded stubbornness is impressive. Quote Misquoting people is almost normal now. CATO's misquote. Just like any other media-party communist eh? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
GostHacked Posted July 11, 2019 Report Posted July 11, 2019 26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Lmao. What a moronic interpretation. That's why I say that your posts are infantile. Ok 26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: OMG. People can start war against you. Do things that make war necessary. But you can't fight back then or you're the guilty party? Was it necessary for that other one to start a war with me in the first place? Why? Fighting back is different. And before you go off on about America being attacked first (aka 9/11) .. let's look at (and let's leave WWII and Pearl Harbour out of this), what the USA has done over the past few decades. One of the most embarrassing things I've heard about is the Iran-Contra affair. Geeze, how long has the USA been supporting terrorist activities in other nations? 26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Dude that's not even remotely related to the sentences above. Are you high? It's legal in Canada. And yeah I've been fucking high for years. Should try it. I do recommend a good vaporizer for maximum efficiency/enjoyment ratio. 26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Yeah ok GH. You're 100% wrong about everything else but you were just testing me that time lol. There is no test. That's all in your head. See that's how head games work on these forums. It can get confusing. 26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Nations just operate in whatever conditions exist I guess. This is true. So let's stop with the bullshit facade and call it for what it is. Then the people will really know what their government is supporting on their behalf to their detriment. And then real votes can take place for real change. We have a media monster tied in with that military industrial complex that knows how to manipulate people. Hell, I even think we have evidence of that effort through social media manipulation, including crap like Facialbook, Twatters, Tw-Itches and Spoogetube, and possibly on this site as well. Who the hell really knows these days. Alright, which one of you out there are the spooks?? 26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: That's right. It's ridiculous to say "we can buy their oil instead of extracting our own, but we can't sell them weapons. We need to let them buy their weapons from NoKo, Russia or China." Again, you present a false choice. I would not sell them weapons OR buy their oil. And because the USA does, they are no better than Russia NoKo or China. Please tell me there is a difference. 26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Again, you answer is a total non sequitur. It's like you're talking about something else entirely. No consider it more of the macro. The micro mentality won't ever be able to understand it. And I don't really get it either. But then I am not the crazy one. And I am not in power.. Quote
Yzermandius19 Posted July 11, 2019 Report Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Dougie93 said: The Liberal Media Party only has two stories, Vietnam and Watergate. If they don't actually have a Vietnam nor a Watergate, they fabricate them. It never gets to the reveal, it just goes on and on as a prop. And the Liberals eat it up every time, no matter how many times Lucy pulls the football away at the last moment, they are going to try and kick that ball. They are Charlie Brown. Edited July 11, 2019 by Yzermandius19 Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 12, 2019 Report Posted July 12, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 4:56 PM, bush_cheney2004 said: True....and why is that OK for Ontario hospital emergency rooms ? It's not? I'm not sure what your point is. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted July 12, 2019 Report Posted July 12, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 5:30 PM, GostHacked said: Again, you present a false choice. I would not sell them weapons OR buy their oil. And because the USA does, they are no better than Russia NoKo or China. Please tell me there is a difference. Who should the US buy their oil from then? Iran? Iraq? Qatar? So many awesome choices. If the US just had to buy all of their oil from one source they'd be paying a premium and the rest of the world, including countries that the US competes with both militarily and economically, would be paying less for oil. And oil is a commodity that we all use every day, and which we rely on to have food shipped to us, etc. The cost of oil ripples over and over through the entire economy. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted July 12, 2019 Report Posted July 12, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 5:29 PM, eyeball said: The CATO Institute is a virtue signalling fake right-wing poser. I didn't think even you could make this stuff up but...your pigheaded stubbornness is impressive. CATO's misquote. Just like any other media-party communist eh? Just to get things back in perspective here, you're still the guy who's lapping up the moronic quotes from people like AOC and misinterpreting the quotes from Republicans. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
eyeball Posted July 12, 2019 Report Posted July 12, 2019 4 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Just to get things back in perspective here, you're still the guy who's lapping up the moronic quotes from people like AOC No I'm not and neither is CATO. Did you even read the CATO article, can you point out where CATO quotes AOC? Quote and misinterpreting the quotes from Republicans. What misinterpretation? BTW the Time article that quotes Republican Congressman Will Hurd was written weeks before AOC came on scene. You truly suck at refuting things. Seriously, you blow it every time. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
GostHacked Posted July 12, 2019 Report Posted July 12, 2019 9 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Who should the US buy their oil from then? Iran? Iraq? Qatar? So many awesome choices. If the US just had to buy all of their oil from one source they'd be paying a premium and the rest of the world, including countries that the US competes with both militarily and economically, would be paying less for oil. And oil is a commodity that we all use every day, and which we rely on to have food shipped to us, etc. The cost of oil ripples over and over through the entire economy. Are terrorists nations the only option to buy oil from? Quote
WestCanMan Posted July 12, 2019 Report Posted July 12, 2019 10 hours ago, eyeball said: No I'm not Yes you are backing AOC's claims. She's the one who started off all the ridiculous accusations of inhumanity, such as "people were forced to drink from toilets". When you're talking about all the current inhumanity and what we're going to find out in the future it's 100% because you're drinking stupidity from AOC's firehose. Here's MH's post and your reply is below, just in case you forgot: On 7/1/2019 at 6:29 PM, Michael Hardner said: The guards are said to harrass inmates with no accountability or action from management. AOC asks how this is related to lack of budget ? This is just inhumanity. Your reply, : Quote We haven't seen anything yet. Busted. This is you actually going along with AOC's moronic claims of intentional inhumanity. Quote What misinterpretation? BTW the Time article that quotes Republican Congressman Will Hurd was written weeks before AOC came on scene. Your misinterpretation of Will Hurd's words, to be exact. He's not saying the same things that AOC is saying. His quotes don't jive with her accusations. AOC is saying that guards are intentionally inhumane, doing things like harassing and "forcing people to drink out of toilets". Will Hurd said nothing of the sort in your quote. His quote just boils down to overcrowding. It's not the same thing at all. The fact that there's overcrowding just goes along with the whole scenario of underfunding, which is why Republicans said that there was a border crisis back when Dems were still saying there was not a crisis at all. Quote You truly suck at refuting things. Seriously, you blow it every time. I guess you see what you want to see, your interpretations are just ridiculous. Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
WestCanMan Posted July 12, 2019 Report Posted July 12, 2019 6 hours ago, GostHacked said: Are terrorists nations the only option to buy oil from? To be honest, the US doesn't need foreign oil as badly as they used to since their ability to extract their own oil just went up by so much. Twenty years ago the US was extremely dependent on vast amounts of foreign oil. Terrorist countries weren't the only option to buy oil back when the US was more desperate, but Canada couldn't supply all of their oil, Russia wasn't going to sell them any oil, and if they had to get the majority of their oil from a single place like Venezuela (if that was even a possibility) then they would literally be over a barrel (that's pretty damn funny). Quote If CNN gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. If you missed something on the Cultist Narrative Network, don't worry, the dolt horde here will make sure everyone hears it. "If it didn't come from CNN, it's heresy!" - leftist "intellectuals"
eyeball Posted July 12, 2019 Report Posted July 12, 2019 3 hours ago, WestCanMan said: Yes you are backing AOC's claims. She's the one who started off all the ridiculous accusations of inhumanity, such as "people were forced to drink from toilets". When you're talking about all the current inhumanity and what we're going to find out in the future it's 100% because you're drinking stupidity from AOC's firehose How on Earth can you say that given the dates of the article written by Time and the inquiry that CATO reported on, you think its just fake reality or something? I've yet to see you point out any mention anywhere of AOC in these articles never mind anything she said. I'm not backing AOC's claims I'm calling bullshit on your's - that she is the first and only one to describe inhumanity in CBP's filthy inhumane detention camps. It truly phenomenal how willing you are to humiliate yourself by spewing such flagrantly obvious falsehoods. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
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