America under President Trump

OftenWrong · July 26, 2017

There's a lot of BS to talk about, as usual. Other important information is not being discussed very much at all. The situation with North Korea is a very serious emergency that has to be dealt with somehow, immediately. There is not much discussion about it in the news media or in public forums like this one.

Also heard that there is a ceasefire in effect in Syria, brokered by the United States and Russia. It's been in place about two weeks now. After 6 years of war, let's hope it holds.

US, Russia Announce Syria Cease-Fire After Trump-Putin Talks

Certainly a positive outcome of the meeting between Presidents Trump and Putin.

I feel that the key to containing North Korea will also be a strong US - Russia relationship, among other significant players of course. It is vital that these countries work together as allies to solve really important problems like this. Certainly there are discussions going on at the highest level which we never get to hear about, while the media and public discuss only issues of practically no importance.

Omni · July 26, 2017

24 minutes ago, OftenWrong said:

There's a lot of BS to talk about, as usual. Other important information is not being discussed very much at all. The situation with North Korea is a very serious emergency that has to be dealt with somehow, immediately. There is not much discussion about it in the news media or in public forums like this one.

Also heard that there is a ceasefire in effect in Syria, brokered by the United States and Russia. It's been in place about two weeks now. After 6 years of war, let's hope it holds.

US, Russia Announce Syria Cease-Fire After Trump-Putin Talks

Certainly a positive outcome of the meeting between Presidents Trump and Putin.

I feel that the key to containing North Korea will also be a strong US - Russia relationship, among other significant players of course. It is vital that these countries work together as allies to solve really important problems like this. Certainly there are discussions going on at the highest level which we never get to hear about, while the media and public discuss only issues of practically no importance.

Quite the rosy view you have there, although I don't think it's real. With regard to NK, Trump seems to keep pissing off China, which is not smart on that issue. The Trump Putin little friendship thing will certainly be tested with the new bill congress has passed on sanctions against Russia over the meddling issue. Trump keeps on tweeting nastiness against Sessions and it seems in all likelihood in the hopes he will resign, which Sessions says he won't, so Trump may have to fire him to work his evil little plan to get rid of Mueller. Trump seems to be setting himself up for impeachment followed by indictment.

Omni · July 26, 2017

And wow did he continue to make an arse of himself in front of the Boy Scouts today.

OftenWrong · July 26, 2017

11 hours ago, Omni said:

Quite the rosy view you have there, although I don't think it's real. With regard to NK, Trump seems to keep pissing off China, which is not smart on that issue.

Nothing "rosy" about the threat of nuclear war, so I don't get where you see my post as rosy. This threat is very real.

China is not our friend. There's good reason to suspect that china has enabled NK to help them get this far, even if only through inaction.

Omni · July 26, 2017

And Trump won't likely get much in the way of favorable action out of China when he calls them "our enemy" etc. to sour further the relationship. Then of course there's his hypocrisy saying China is a " the worst threat to our economy" while his lawyers in China apply for something like 38 new trademarks for his new business ideas in the country. Can you say conflict of interest?

Omni · July 26, 2017

Trump continues his hypocrisy. Now he wants to ban trans gender people from serving in the military. But he sure liked waving a rainbow flag around and expressing how good a friend he was during the campaign.

Wilber · July 26, 2017

Turning on transgenders is a small price if it distracts from all the other crap surrounding his administration.

dialamah · July 26, 2017

45 minutes ago, Omni said:

Trump continues his hypocrisy. Now he wants to ban trans gender people from serving in the military. But he sure liked waving a rainbow flag around and expressing how good a friend he was during the campaign.

Don't hear much from Pence, do we?

hot enough · July 26, 2017

9 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Turning on transgenders is a small price if it distracts from all the other crap surrounding his administration.

Sure tells all what "moral base" you have, Wilber.

hot enough · July 26, 2017

8 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Don't hear much from Pence, do we?

Pence who?

Omni · July 26, 2017

3 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Don't hear much from Pence, do we?

Not so far it seems. I wonder what this latest means for the between 4-6k xgenders already serving?

Wilber · July 26, 2017

6 minutes ago, dialamah said:

Don't hear much from Pence, do we?

You mean mister, Make America Straight Again?

Omni · July 27, 2017

2 hours ago, Wilber said:

You mean mister, Make America Straight Again?

Should we get some hats printed up?

The_Squid · July 27, 2017

3 hours ago, Omni said:

Not so far it seems. I wonder what this latest means for the between 4-6k xgenders already serving?

Seems pretty obvious.... it means they're out of the military.

Omni · July 27, 2017

1 minute ago, The_Squid said:

Seems pretty obvious.... it means they're out of the military.

It already sounds like there is going to be a lot of blow back from this latest littleTrump tweet.

Hal 9000 · July 27, 2017

Well, it seems that Trump has been listening to his generals and also a lot of people in the military. Seems better than a CIC that ignores his military. The Generals/Admirals don't want transgenders and neither do the men and women serving.

This isn't a social justice experiment, the soliders shouldn't have to endure mandatory "sensativity" training to learn how to be accepting of some transgender. The military is made up of smaller groups that go out and kill people. Yes, that's what they do - Kill people. If that group has some weak links, it becomes a major problem for everybody.

Omni · July 27, 2017

22 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

Well, it seems that Trump has been listening to his generals and also a lot of people in the military. Seems better than a CIC that ignores his military. The Generals/Admirals don't want transgenders and neither do the men and women serving.

This isn't a social justice experiment, the soliders shouldn't have to endure mandatory "sensativity" training to learn how to be accepting of some transgender. The military is made up of smaller groups that go out and kill people. Yes, that's what they do - Kill people. If that group has some weak links, it becomes a major problem for everybody.

Where did you get that information, because it seems that people actually in the military, claim he conferred with no one in the military. There are currently about 6k xgender already serving and by all accounts serving well. And beyond that, he loved the LGBT community when he was campaigning, and wanted their votes, (even though when he paraded on stage with a rainbow flag he didn't realize he had it up side down) and now he's going to kick them to the curb. If you look up the work HYPOCRITE in funk and wagnells, assuming you have one, you should see a picture of a goofy looking bugger with fake hair and orange powder splattered on his face.

Hal 9000 · July 27, 2017

Loving and respecting the trannies has nothing to do with not wanting them in the military. This issue has been going on since before Trump, it just so happens that unlike Obama, he is listening the majority over the minority.

BTW - When it comes to the military, transgender is not the same as gays in the military. He hasn't said anything about the homos.

Omni · July 27, 2017

14 minutes ago, Hal 9000 said:

he is listening the majority over the minority.

What majority is that? If you are going to trot out these claims you should have some sort of backup to support them.

WestCoastRunner · July 27, 2017

10 hours ago, Hal 9000 said:

Loving and respecting the trannies has nothing to do with not wanting them in the military. This issue has been going on since before Trump, it just so happens that unlike Obama, he is listening the majority over the minority.

BTW - When it comes to the military, transgender is not the same as gays in the military. He hasn't said anything about the homos.

You know that tranny and homo are derogatory terms (as I have pointed that out to you previously) but yet you continue to use them. If someone insulted your children with derogatory terms and you pointed it out would you not hope they would in the future address them in a respectful manner.

Wilber · July 27, 2017

Donald shooting from the hip again. Looks like he will have to come up with some actual policy. Not something he has excelled at.

Not so fast.

hot enough · July 27, 2017

15 hours ago, Hal 9000 said:

Well, it seems that Trump has been listening to his generals and also a lot of people in the military. Seems better than a CIC that ignores his military. The Generals/Admirals don't want transgenders and neither do the men and women serving.

You'd be happy with slavery being brought back, and active programs of genocide, right, Hal?

Omni · July 27, 2017

5 minutes ago, Wilber said:

Donald shooting from the hip again. Looks like he will have to come up with some actual policy. Not something he has excelled at.

Not so fast.

I get a kick out of the idea that any anticipated health care costs anticipated for xgender people is a tenth of what the military currently spends on Viagra.

Hal 9000 · July 28, 2017

9 hours ago, WestCoastRunner said:

You know that tranny and homo are derogatory terms (as I have pointed that out to you previously) but yet you continue to use them. If someone insulted your children with derogatory terms and you pointed it out would you not hope they would in the future address them in a respectful manner.

Homo is not anymore derogatory than hetero - is it? We have a thread called "hetero pride", I'd hate to think our mods are allowing derogatory terms right there in thread titles.