bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, DogOnPorch said: More jobs with US steel. Yes, and it empties depots and magazines of old munitions stocks. I love the smell of freshly painted missiles and bombs. It's like a new car ! 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 10 minutes ago, DogOnPorch said: ....Trump wants a bit of the good ol' days back. Like a re-run of The Waltons...I can't say I disagree. The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades. President Trump is like 70 years old....he hosted fight cards in his hotels (George Foreman credits Trump for his comeback). For Trump, why can't it be like the good ol' days ? Fight it out ! 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
DogOnPorch Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 7 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: President Trump is like 70 years old....he hosted fight cards in his hotels (George Foreman credits Trump for his comeback). For Trump, why can't it be like the good ol' days ? Fight it out ! Indeed, why not? All those claiming 'the end of the American Century' like it is a that's-that fact have yet to explain how Red China and Islam are going to save us all from Global Warming (sinister music plays). Like...what the Hell?? 1 Quote Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
Omni Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 57 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Getting back to President Trump, and like most of his predecessors, he has to bomb somebody. Quiz time: which of these U.S. presidents did not bomb somebody ? a) Lyndon Johnson b ) Richard Nixon c) Gerald Ford d) Jimmy Carter e) Ronald Reagan f) George H.W. Bush g) Bill Clinton h) George W. Bush i) Barack Obama Proud of that record are ya? 2 1 Quote
OftenWrong Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 7 hours ago, Hal 9000 said: Omni: "include some countries who's people have actually hurt the US." Ok, Maybe you'd suggest dropping Syria from the list and then adding Saudi Arabia. Maybe you should simply tell us all what countries should be listed, I'm all for adding Australia. Good suugestion. Let's start a poll haha. I'm for adding Sweden, possibly all Scandinavian countries. Quote
Charles Anthony Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 Folks, Please avoid Thread Derailment Syndrome. Quote We do not have time for a meeting of the flat earth society. << Où sont mes amis ? Ils sont ici, ils sont ici... >>
OftenWrong Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 4 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: President Trump is like 70 years old....he hosted fight cards in his hotels (George Foreman credits Trump for his comeback). For Trump, why can't it be like the good ol' days ? Fight it out ! Good point! Trump is in some ways an old-school type, while at the same time also a break with conventional politics. Love that he helped Foreman out. Trump is a master-showman, as now being demonstrated daily. Quote
?Impact Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 7 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Quiz time: which of these U.S. presidents did not bomb somebody ? I would say it is a competition to see who is first out of the gate, and to what extent. Maybe we need Presidents that can keep from dropping bombs, and work towards peaceful solutions to the worlds problems. 1 Quote
sharkman Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 6 hours ago, DogOnPorch said: Indeed, why not? All those claiming 'the end of the American Century' like it is a that's-that fact have yet to explain how Red China and Islam are going to save us all from Global Warming (sinister music plays). Like...what the Hell?? Exactly. Most presidents have had to do some bombing and military actions, and it looks like Trump will have to as well. 2 Quote
Argus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 13 hours ago, Omni said: He does not have that power because he has failed to prove there is any valid threat to US security from the named nations. and which is why I suspect he has been advised to steer clear of the SC. The SC is divided down the middle atm, and a hung decision upholds the lower liberal court's decision. They will wait until Trump's nominee is sworn in so the SC has a conservative majority again. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 9 hours ago, kactus said: ......Answer the question..... Why is Saudi Arabia not on this list? Because Obama and America's intelligence agencies didn't feel they needed to be there. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 8 hours ago, Omni said: Ever look at how may Americas used to travel to Iran? Many young people going to study. But them oh yes, you've never been there so you may not understand why. How is this even slightly relevant? Iran is a self-declared enemy of the US and has been for over thirty years, repeatedly refering to it as 'the great Satan'. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
kactus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 25 minutes ago, Argus said: Because Obama and America's intelligence agencies didn't feel they needed to be there. Obama is not the president now. This argument is obsolete as circumstances have changed since Trump's election Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 American presidents, along with allies like Israel, already have contingency plans and operations ready to go against Iran. Iran has been the subject of war colleges for decades. President Trump will continue this fine tradition. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Omni Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 32 minutes ago, Argus said: Because Obama and America's intelligence agencies didn't feel they needed to be there. Ha ha, you don't think flying planes into buildings shouldn't get you on the list? But lets not forget that magic ingredient...oil. 1 Quote
kactus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 Contingency my ..... If intelligence wanted to do this they wouldn't need mouthpieces repeating the same rhetorics. F&@k the tradition... 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 Whenever there is an earthquake or other disaster in Iran, the U.S. offers humanitarian assistance while gathering intelligence and targeting data. President Obama lost a spy drone over Iran. Iran is the USA's favourite....enemy ! 1 Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
kactus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 1 minute ago, bush_cheney2004 said: lost a spy drone over Iran. More than once... Quote
eyeball Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 On 2/7/2017 at 9:10 AM, Hal 9000 said: How is it even slightly controversial that Trump agrees that Putin is a killer and that the US has many killers too? People on the left were calling out GW Bush for war crimes and have a look at Obama and Hillary? I mean really, Isn't it obvious that all these people have had others killed? Since when did two or more wrongs made a right? That's the only real controversy here, or it should be in any case. 2 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Hal 9000 Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 12 minutes ago, eyeball said: Since when did two or more wrongs made a right? That's the only real controversy here, or it should be in any case. It's not a mater of being wrong, it's not a matter of being right...or politically correct either. It's a matter of fact, one that we all know to be true. There was time recently then the left called everybody killers, now Trump says the obvious truth and people are shocked...outraged - Why? Trump will be a killer soon enough - if not already. Quote The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they're ignorant; it's just that they know so much that isn't so. - Ronald Reagan I have said that the Western world is just as violent as the Islamic world - Dialamah Europe seems to excel at fooling people to immigrate there from the ME only to chew them up and spit them back. - Eyeball Unfortunately our policies have contributed to retarding and limiting their (Muslim's) society's natural progression towards the same enlightened state we take for granted. - Eyeball
eyeball Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 What shock are you talking about? The only people who seem shocked to me are old stock American right wingers - you know, Democrats and Republicans who still cling to the notion their country is exceptional in some way. If I was shocked it was because Trump finally said something that's true. 2 Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding.
Argus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 3 hours ago, kactus said: Obama is not the president now. This argument is obsolete as circumstances have changed since Trump's election You'll have to do better. The bare bones of this argument is that Trump was being unreasonable in singling out these countries, but that fails completely when it's proven Obama did it. So basically... you got nothing here. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Argus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Omni said: Ha ha, you don't think flying planes into buildings shouldn't get you on the list? But lets not forget that magic ingredient...oil. Iraq has oil. So do Iran, Sudan, and Syria. Your knowledge is basically zip on this. The American intelligence agencies under Obama made the assessment that the Saudis are cooperating with them with regard to screening people coming to the U.S. And you got nothing to contradict that. Look, I'm no fan of Trump, but that doesn't mean every single thing he does, however poorly done, is a bad idea. Edited February 11, 2017 by Argus Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Omni Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 23 minutes ago, Argus said: Iraq has oil. So do Iran, Sudan, and Syria. Your knowledge is basically zip on this. The American intelligence agencies under Obama made the assessment that the Saudis are cooperating with them with regard to screening people coming to the U.S. And you got nothing to contradict that. Look, I'm no fan of Trump, but that doesn't mean every single thing he does, however poorly done, is a bad idea. One of the legal arguments against the ban is that it is against countries who have not harmed the US. Another is that it targets a specific religion. 1 Quote
kactus Posted February 11, 2017 Report Posted February 11, 2017 27 minutes ago, Argus said: You'll have to do better. The bare bones of this argument is that Trump was being unreasonable in singling out these countries, but that fails completely when it's proven Obama did it. So basically... you got nothing here. I am just getting started... You know your stance is very confusing to say the least. On one hand you find trumps policies stupid on the other you try to blame Obama.... This is nothing more than rhetoric. It was the sheer incomoetence of a lame duck that he is to read the EO before signing it. But then again if people like Steve Bannon apeal to your way of thinking that's a different matter....I don't.... 1 Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.