DogOnPorch Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 As your statement was eluding to a group collective perspective. If I am wrong, I am hoping you could clarify. You're free to point out the errors of all my previous statements. But, since you couldn't/didn't at the time, I'll just assume I'm still correct. This is one of the few moments where you speak some sort of truth that we can all agree with. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
GostHacked Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 You're free to point out the errors of all my previous statements. But, since you couldn't/didn't at the time, I'll just assume I'm still correct. Hmm, almost an attempt to create an argument out of an agreement. Interesting tactic.
WestCanMan Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Perhaps the kind of delightful expression of ethnic sentiment Canada can look forward to. Three members of a self-styled Muslim Sharia Patrol have been jailed for harassing, intimidating and assaulting people on the streets of east London while claiming they were enforcing sharia law. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/06/muslim-vigilantes-jailed-sharia-law-attacks-london Police in the German city of Wuppertal are investigating a case of several young men who announced themselves to be 'Sharia police'. The group was 'patrolling' the streets, urging people to refrain from various sorts of activities and entertainment. The young men wearing orange safety vests with the words "Shariah police" written on the back caught both residents' and police attention in Wuppertal in North Rhine-Westphalia in western Germany earlier this week. https://www.rt.com/news/185664-sharia-police-patrol-germany/ http://www.mrctv.org/blog/sharia-patrols-harassing-citizens-london-belgium-sweden Impersonating a police officer can get you up to 5 years in Canada. If they actually did anything harmful to a person for violating sharia law that would be considered a hate crime, good for ten years. Let them go ahead. If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Guest Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Perhaps the kind of delightful expression of ethnic sentiment Canada can look forward to. Three members of a self-styled Muslim Sharia Patrol have been jailed for harassing, intimidating and assaulting people on the streets of east London while claiming they were enforcing sharia law. http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/dec/06/muslim-vigilantes-jailed-sharia-law-attacks-london Police in the German city of Wuppertal are investigating a case of several young men who announced themselves to be 'Sharia police'. The group was 'patrolling' the streets, urging people to refrain from various sorts of activities and entertainment. The young men wearing orange safety vests with the words "Shariah police" written on the back caught both residents' and police attention in Wuppertal in North Rhine-Westphalia in western Germany earlier this week. https://www.rt.com/news/185664-sharia-police-patrol-germany/ http://www.mrctv.org/blog/sharia-patrols-harassing-citizens-london-belgium-sweden Well, at least they jailed them. Tossers.
WestCanMan Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Well, at least they jailed them. Tossers. Well, at least they jailed them. Tossers. The ones in the uk got 12 to 17 months, I saw no actual mention of jail time in Germany yet. In Sweden there are areas where the police don't go without protection “Swedish police have not seriously tried to contest the zones since the 2013 Stockholm ghetto riots in which hundreds of cars and buildings were burned,” saysInvestors Business Daily. “The police report that there are now vehicle checkpoints operated by Muslim gangs on the borders of these zones” Of course none of this is true according to bleeding heart liberals. Islam is no different from any other tolerant group of people. If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. Bug-juice is the new Kool-aid. Ex-Canadian since April 2025
Guest Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) The ones in the uk got 12 to 17 months, I saw no actual mention of jail time in Germany yet. In Sweden there are areas where the police don't go without protection Of course none of this is true according to bleeding heart liberals. Islam is no different from any other tolerant group of people. Now now, you have more chance of being hit by lightning while being robbed by a moose wearing an Easter Bunny costume than you have of being stopped at a Muslim vehicle checkpoint. Everybody knows that. Unless you're Swedish. Edited December 11, 2015 by bcsapper
ReeferMadness Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Based on the 91 pages of mostly hysteria, innuendo, misinformation and lies, I would say the answer to the OP is: TRUE. Unlimited economic growth has the marvelous quality of stilling discontent while preserving privilege, a fact that has not gone unnoticed among liberal economists. - Noam Chomsky It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it. - Upton Sinclair
Smoke Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Look, if being concerned about possible problems with a certain religion is deemed islamophobia by the left, and if it makes them feel morally superior by calling those with concerns islamophobes, then go ahead and shoot your mouths off. Heck call me a racist and a bigot if you want. Those terms are tossed around so much anymore that they don't really carry that much weight as far as I'm concerned. Besides, I think ALL religion is a JOKE so I guess I'm also a Christianophobe too. Catholicophobe, Presbyterianophobe, Buddhaphobe, etc.
Rue Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) To answer Bush, the smiling whores using Syrian refugees as feel good propaganda props are exactly the phenomena that gave rise to Donald Trump. Edited December 11, 2015 by Rue
Argus Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) To answer Bush, the smiling whores using Syrian refugees as feel good propaganda props are exactly the phenomena that gave rise to Donald Trump. Rex Murphy made much the same point the other night. He said it was the complete failure of gutless political hacks to address immigration and race issues which has allowed Trump to be seen as the only 'honest' candidate in the Republican contest, despite him not being terribly honest The same sort of thing is in place in Canada. All the parties in the HoC agree with the national media and opinion makers on a variety of policy issues. There s unanimity, total consensus. Immigration is 100% good. So is official bilingualism and abortion on demand. The death penalty is bad, official bilingualism is good. The only problem is none of these issues have a consensus among Canadians. Often half of Canadians surveyed are completely opposed, or in the case of the death penalty, in favour. But the politicians ignore them. Edited December 11, 2015 by Argus "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley
Big Guy Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 I see a lot of folks trying to tap dance away from being identified as agreeing with Donald Trump. Trump is a racist and Islamophobe (not just my defintion but the members of his own party). "If it looks like an Islamophobe, swims like an Islamophobe, and quacks like an Islamophobe, then it probably is a ...". I would suggest that the easiest way to NOT be identified as an Islamophobe is to NOT have the same views as a proven Islamophobe. Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments.
DogOnPorch Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Trump is right that there's something WRONG with Islam and that until it is FIXED...No Islam allowed. If it was Moonies shooting up the joint there wouldn't be an issue calling a spade a spade. Nothing cracks a turtle like Leon Uris.
On Guard for Thee Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Look, if being concerned about possible problems with a certain religion is deemed islamophobia by the left, and if it makes them feel morally superior by calling those with concerns islamophobes, then go ahead and shoot your mouths off. Heck call me a racist and a bigot if you want. Those terms are tossed around so much anymore that they don't really carry that much weight as far as I'm concerned. Besides, I think ALL religion is a JOKE so I guess I'm also a Christianophobe too. Catholicophobe, Presbyterianophobe, Buddhaphobe, etc. Thinking a religion is a joke does not a phobia make. Attempting to strip people who do follow a religion of their rights, because of some sort of irrational fear you may have, does.
Rue Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) Yep Argus that is exactly the editorial and Rex M was dead on. Trump may be politically inappropriate and off script but I doubt he is even a bigot. He hates everyone for the same reasons-ignorant, arrogant, crass, blunt, impractical, a demagoge, shock artist, shit disturber, hornet's nest wacker, all of those but bigot-hah. You show him loyalty and make him a buck he could give a hoot who you pray to. He'd turn his mother in if he thought she was a terrorist and be the first to brag about it. The biggest bigot for my buck is Obama. Trudeau is right up there, The double standard yesterday with the grinning hyenas lined up at the tarmac using Syrian refufees as trained monkey props for propaganda was nauseating. Imagine if his Highness, Justin of Trudeau had to actually live in the same neighbourhood as Syrian refugees. Let's see how many he hires as nannies. . Justin propped and and staged them like trained seals throwing fish at them. It was Marineland last night. Jump. Speak. Smile. Bark. Hee hee. Tee hee. Look at the cute little refugees. It was the most patronizing display of bigotry I have seen in years. Come boy, have a cookie and kiss my hand. Look at how wonderful. tee hee. Am I not wonderful? Isn't my girl Ms. Wynne wonderful? They even had the audacity to tell the refugees coming in to eat as much as they wanted and don't worry if they left any food. Yes welcome to Canada where we waste food welcome welcome welcome we are so wonderful kiss my morally superior buttox and hero worship me for saving you hee hee hee. The world has gone nuts and the biggest bigots were on display last night. I also want to puke at the press pretending this is the first time refugees have come to Canada. Such sanctimonious crap. Edited December 11, 2015 by Rue
Hudson Jones Posted December 11, 2015 Author Report Posted December 11, 2015 I'm sure most of us are witnessing a taste of the increased bigotry towards Muslims from the media, political forums like this and are even seeing it on our social media feeds. These are people who think over 1.5 billion people look, act, feel, eat and sleep the same. It's even worse down south; an eventual presidential candidate is calling to ban Muslims from entering the country, while a lesser known GOP politician says she wants to shoot syrian refugees in the head. I wonder what will be acceptable next. When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Boges Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 I'm sure most of us are witnessing a taste of the increased bigotry towards Muslims from the media, political forums like this and are even seeing it on our social media feeds. These are people who think over 1.5 billion people look, act, feel, eat and sleep the same. It's even worse down south; an eventual presidential candidate is calling to ban Muslims from entering the country, while a lesser known GOP politician says she wants to shoot syrian refugees in the head. I wonder what will be acceptable next. You're implying any of it IS acceptable.
On Guard for Thee Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Trump may be politically inappropriate and off script but I doubt he is even a bigot. Now that has got to take some kind of a cake, to characterize the xenophibic crap that comes out of Trump's mouth as "off script". That would be hilarious if it wasn't so scary.
Hudson Jones Posted December 11, 2015 Author Report Posted December 11, 2015 You're implying any of it IS acceptable. I don't think discrimination and bigotry is acceptable. I am saying that it seems like it is acceptable among a large percentage of people. When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Boges Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) I don't think discrimination and bigotry is acceptable. I am saying that it seems like it is acceptable among a large percentage of people. Now who's being prejudiced? There's no denying there's a faction of society that's racist. Are you saying that we're a more racist society then when interracial relationships weren't acceptable? I hope you're not denying that there's a percentage of Islam that believes in Jihad and of the full implementation of Sharia in the West? Edited December 11, 2015 by Boges
dialamah Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 Trump is right that there's something WRONG with Islam and that until it is FIXED...No Islam allowed. So, in agreeing with Trump, are you comfortable being painted with the same brush - that of being a bigot and an Islamaphobe?
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) One should always be comfortable being "painted with the same brush" when it comes to defending freedom of expression (speech), and that includes Donald Trump. Canada's A-Houles can try to silence Ann Coulter or Donald Trump, but only in Canada. Edited December 11, 2015 by bush_cheney2004 Economics trumps Virtue.
Hudson Jones Posted December 11, 2015 Author Report Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) Now who's being prejudiced? There's no denying there's a faction of society that's racist. Are you saying that we're a more racist society when interracial relationships weren't acceptable? I hope you're not denying that there's a percentage of Islam that believes in Jihad and of the full implementation of Sharia in the West? I don't equate ISIS to Muslims. That's a shallow way of looking at the world. Radical Islam is an issue, but so is our foreign policy. We have to look at the different reasons why there is radicalism in the Middle East and its ability to recruit and draw people. Contrary to what some say here, that it's the Koran that turns people like this, I believe our policies are the major reason. Everything from wars that destabilize the area, to supporting dictators and to turning a blind eye to the major supporters of extremist groups like ISIS. Edited December 11, 2015 by Hudson Jones When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love have always won. There have been tyrants and murderers, and for a time, they can seem invincible, but in the end, they always fall. Think of it--always. Gandhi
Boges Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 (edited) I don't equate ISIS to Muslims. That's a shallow way of looking at the world. Radical Islam is an issue, but so is our foreign policy. We have to look at the different reasons why there is radicalism in the Middle East and its ability to recruit and draw people. Contrary to what some say here, that it's the Koran that turns people like this, I believe our policies are the major reason. Everything from wars that destabilize the area, to supporting for dictators and to turning a blind eye to the major supporters of extremist groups like ISIS. Where in my post did I say ISIS? BTW I do see a trend of people equating anything bad to ISIS, it's like Godwins Law, if everything is Hitler/ISIS, nothing is Hitler/ISIS. At this point, I wouldn't oppose the West removing their involvement in the Middle East. But Oil is a factor, and the whole reason the US intervened in 1991. We can see this with how Saudi Arabia has basically shut down the Alberta Oil Sands by flooding the market with their oil. The people that run Saudi Arabia are the worst, but they basically control the world's oil prices. Sure we can aspire to a world without Oil, but that's not happening for the next few decades and when Fracking and the Tar Sands are so out of favour with the public, we have to deal with these people are care about their interests. But this has little to do with someone's opinion of radical Islam. I would have the same opinion of someone with radical Islamic opinions as a white racist (The KKK and WBC keeps being thrown around). Both are bigots and should be seen as such. I don't understand why people conflate critiques of Racial Islam with an outright condemnation of the entire religion. Edited December 11, 2015 by Boges
bush_cheney2004 Posted December 11, 2015 Report Posted December 11, 2015 ....I don't understand why people conflate critiques of Racial Islam with an outright condemnation of the entire religion. I can...just take a peek at all the endless anti Israeli/Jewish state threads. And so it goes..... Economics trumps Virtue.
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