ReeferMadness Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Hey...if previous political office and campaign experience are the qualifications, Gov. Palin has more than many of the others. Which, sadly, tells the tale of the Republicans. She's heads and shoulders above Donald Trump, the current front runner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Which, sadly, tells the tale of the Republicans. She's heads and shoulders above Donald Trump, the current front runner. How low is that bar anyways? I mean one could set it at Trump, or Palin, not sure which one is lower, but at this point the bar is so low I gotta start digging for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 How low is that bar anyways? I mean one could set it at Trump, or Palin, not sure which one is lower, but at this point the bar is so low I gotta start digging for it. They have a seemingly endless selection of nutbars to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 They have a seemingly endless selection of nutbars to choose from. True...much larger political parties than in Canada, which has a far smaller selection of the same nutbars to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 True...much larger political parties than in Canada, which has a far smaller selection of the same nutbars to choose from. Yeah. Maybe in part it's because we have smaller parties. But in particular, the extreme right wing is not as prevalent. And that's where most of the nutbars are from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 18, 2015 Report Share Posted August 18, 2015 Yeah. Maybe in part it's because we have smaller parties. But in particular, the extreme right wing is not as prevalent. And that's where most of the nutbars are from. No...there are plenty of extreme "nutbar" progressives on the left as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 I heard a predictor says it will come down to Clinton, Bush and Trump. The Elite have already picked the next President. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimmy Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 I heard a predictor says it will come down to Clinton, Bush and Trump. The Elite have already picked the next President. That's not the elite telling you that, it's just a prediction based on the polls. -k Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 19, 2015 Report Share Posted August 19, 2015 Trump's now within 5 points of Hillary Clinton in the latest polls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Trump's now within 5 points of Hillary Clinton in the latest polls. It's okay, even if Trump flames out as many think he will, he is doing us a great service by drawing many of the scorpions from under their rocks into the sunlight. Let us get this part of the business over with NOW, over a year from the election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
socialist Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Back to United States Politics Carly Fiorina won her way into the big boys debate forum. She probably triples her support and deserves to face Trump and the boys on the big stage on Sept 16. What I like about Rand, Christie and Trump: They all excite large parts of the electorate on conservative issues. That does not mean they are all neck-deep conservatives; more like knee-deep -- but they communicate it well and they have the gloves off. And the side benefit is that while they are getting the base stirred up they also taking each other out, for the real conservative candidates to finish the race. So ... while it lasts ... Go Rand. Go Chris. And go Donald. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Trump's now within 5 points of Hillary Clinton in the latest polls. Well, good. So, the presidential results will be Clinton followed by Trump followed by whatever clone wins the Republican nomination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 It's okay, even if Trump flames out as many think he will, he is doing us a great service by drawing many of the scorpions from under their rocks into the sunlight. Let us get this part of the business over with NOW, over a year from the election. Oh, yeah. That guy is just one big ball of public service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 It's okay, even if Trump flames out as many think he will, he is doing us a great service by drawing many of the scorpions from under their rocks into the sunlight. Let us get this part of the business over with NOW, over a year from the election. Nope...we're just getting started. Lots of fun lies ahead, all the way to the very end. Ups and downs and twisting turns await all those who watch this process or fight for their side. Straw polls...primaries...party conventions...then a big general election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReeferMadness Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Back to United States Politics What I like about Rand, Christie and Trump: They all excite large parts of the electorate on conservative issues. That does not mean they are all neck-deep conservatives; more like knee-deep -- Well let's be honest. With Dubya and Reagan as the 2 previous 2 term republican presidents, you don't exactly have to stretch to meet the bar, intellectually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Back to United States Politics What I like about Rand, Christie and Trump: They all excite large parts of the electorate on conservative issues. That does not mean they are all neck-deep conservatives; more like knee-deep -- but they communicate it well and they have the gloves off. And the side benefit is that while they are getting the base stirred up they also taking each other out, for the real conservative candidates to finish the race. So ... while it lasts ... Go Rand. Go Chris. And go Donald. The problem is their solutions are idiotic and unworkable. At least, the ones Rand and Trump have espoused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 The problem is their solutions are idiotic and unworkable. At least, the ones Rand and Trump have espoused. Doesn't matter...Senator Obama got nominated and elected by promising single payer health care...this proved to be unworkable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Doesn't matter...Senator Obama got nominated and elected by promising single payer health care...this proved to be unworkable. Odd how it works everywhere else in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 20, 2015 Report Share Posted August 20, 2015 Odd how it works everywhere else in the world. Not even close...many nations have a mix of public and private health insurance and/or providers. Promising health care rationing and long wait times was politically unworkable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Heard someone on CNN make a good point about Trump:. Trump complains about a lot of the same frustrations a lot of Americans seem to have with their current government (a big reason he's popular), but many of his solutions to those problems just don't seem like good, well thought-out policy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Hardner Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Heard someone on CNN make a good point about Trump:. Trump complains about a lot of the same frustrations a lot of Americans seem to have with their current government (a big reason he's popular), but many of his solutions to those problems just don't seem like good, well thought-out policy. I think you're right. Another way to put it: government has grown too complex for the average person to understand the problems, so they want to send somebody like them to solve them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topaz Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 That's not the elite telling you that, it's just a prediction based on the polls. -k Futurist don't use polls, I don't think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cybercoma Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Heard someone on CNN make a good point about Trump:. Trump complains about a lot of the same frustrations a lot of Americans seem to have with their current government (a big reason he's popular), but many of his solutions to those problems just don't seem like good, well thought-out policy. People don't care about solutions. They just want to complain. Just look at the last decade and a half of posts on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moonlight Graham Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 I think you're right. Another way to put it: government has grown too complex for the average person to understand the problems, so they want to send somebody like them to solve them. Yes pretty much. You'd think a business man like him would be more thoughtful. I just don't see him as the type of person to sit down and carefully read pages and pages of analysis on a certain topic. I see him sitting in a room with advisers giving him advice, then in the middle of them talking he gets fed up and says "Ok enough! Here's what we'll do". I think non-Republicans would be more comfortable with him if he seemed to have more thoughtful, carefully laid-out plans instead of seemingly just shooting his mouth off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 21, 2015 Report Share Posted August 21, 2015 Not even close...many nations have a mix of public and private health insurance and/or providers. Promising health care rationing and long wait times was politically unworkable. Yes, many nations have a mix, which I applaud. But they all have a national health care program - except you guys. They all have medical stats which are better than or at the least, equal to yours, and they all pay way, way less money. Which is why they sometimes have wait times. There isn't one of them which couldn't eliminate all wait times if they were willing to spend as much as the US does on health care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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