Who will get 2016 Republican Presidential Nomination?

[WestCoastRunner]

I don't have to....they are common knowledge, and now a permanent fixture in American political lore.

That is 7 years ago, Please refresh our memories.

[kimmy]

That is 7 years ago, Please refresh our memories.

Obama's comments about "they cling to guns and religion" was part of a talk in which he tried (unsuccessfully, apparently) to explain the cultural divide between small-town conservative America and his audience, a wealthy gathering of west-coast donors. It wasn't mean-spirited, though it may have been condescending.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html

"You go into some of these small towns in Pennsylvania, and like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing's replaced them," Obama said. "And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it's not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

It became quite a talking point for his opponents, being referenced repeatedly by people like Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin.

-k

Edited July 1, 2015 by kimmy

[bush_cheney2004]

It wasn't mean-spirited, though it may have been condescending.

It was bigoted and condescending...micro aggression.

[WestCoastRunner]

Obama's comments about "they cling to guns and religion" was part of a talk in which he tried (unsuccessfully, apparently) to explain the cultural divide between small-town conservative America and his audience, a wealthy gathering of west-coast donors. It wasn't mean-spirited, though it may have been condescending.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mayhill-fowler/obama-no-surprise-that-ha_b_96188.html

It became quite a talking point for his opponents, being referenced repeatedly by people like Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin.

-k

Thank you Kimmy!

[WestCoastRunner]

It was bigoted and condescending...micro aggression.

Obama is bigoted. Hilarious.

[Shady]

Anyways, kimmy is right. You don't punch down.

[sharkman]

What was very telling was the reaction of mainstream media outlets. And more telling was their reaction when Romney made his 47% remarks, the media went into a feeding frenzy. This is the reality. The MSM is dead set against ANY republican candidate, and they have the power to sink a campaign these days. Which is another way of saying that the typical american voter believes whatever they see on tv.

Edited July 2, 2015 by sharkman

[On Guard for Thee]

Obama is bigoted. Hilarious.

It was bigoted and condescending...micro aggression.

I think you have somehow confused Obama with your buddy Trump.

[kimmy]

@realDonaldTrump Twitter:

I love the Mexican people, but Mexico is not our friend. They're killing us at the border and they're killing us on jobs and trade. FIGHT!

-k

[Shady]

@realDonaldTrump Twitter:

-k

Looks like Donald's gonna have some explaining to do! That's gonna be tough to defend in a debate too.

[Mighty AC]

Macy's has now dropped The Donald's Mexican made menswear due to his racist remarks. That makes two networks and a department store in one week. I think most of us agree that the man is a joke, but he polled second among Republicans. What does that say about the party itself?

[Shady]

Macy's has now dropped The Donald's Mexican made menswear due to his racist remarks. That makes two networks and a department store in one week. I think most of us agree that the man is a joke, but he polled second among Republicans. What does that say about the party itself?

It doesn't say anything about the party itself, other than he got a bump from his announcement, and his anti-China, anti-Mexico jobs stance is somewhat popular. Many people believe that China has cheated on trade and currency, as well as Mexico, in particular with trade. And the fact that they're purposely fueling illegal immigration.

[On Guard for Thee]

It doesn't say anything about the party itself, other than he got a bump from his announcement, and his anti-China, anti-Mexico jobs stance is somewhat popular. Many people believe that China has cheated on trade and currency, as well as Mexico, in particular with trade. And the fact that they're purposely fueling illegal immigration.

The racism he displayed was part and parcel of his announcement, so its pretty transparent to try and separate the two to try and blur what it does in fact say about the party.

[Shady]

Everything's racist these days. The words lost all meaning.

[On Guard for Thee]

Everything's racist these days. The words lost all meaning.

Apparently his words have meaning to NBC, Macys, and certainly the Hispanic population.

[Argus]

It was bigoted and condescending...micro aggression.

Bigoted towards who? Hicks?

[Argus]

On the other hand, if nobody responds, it could create the impression that the candidates believe that it's politically disadvantageous to denounce Trump's views (ie, they believe there's actually a significant number of voters that they could alienate if they denounce Trump's comments.)

I believe that is the case. Trump's popularity among Republicans has surged since he made those comments. He's now in second place among the fourteen candidates.

[bush_cheney2004]

Same thing happened when Dick Cheney uttered some politically incorrect remark...standing ovations. Theses guys all have good cop - bad cop roles to play in each election cycle. Everything will be exaggerated by friends and foes alike. No big deal....

[On Guard for Thee]

Same thing happened when Dick Cheney uttered some politically incorrect remark...standing ovations. Theses guys all have good cop - bad cop roles to play in each election cycle. Everything will be exaggerated by friends and foes alike. No big deal....

Oh I think Cheney went far beyond politically incorrect, and all the way to laughably stupid...

"My belief is we will, in fact, be greeted as liberators." –Vice President Dick Cheney, "Meet the Press," March 16, 2003 (Source)

[Derek 2.0]

Same thing happened when Dick Cheney uttered some politically incorrect remark...standing ovations. Theses guys all have good cop - bad cop roles to play in each election cycle. Everything will be exaggerated by friends and foes alike. No big deal....

Exactly, the "Donald" is at it again:

WINTERSET, Iowa -- Distraught by last week's Supreme Court decision that upheld Affordable Care Act subsidies, Donald Trump said former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush ® is responsible for influencing his brother's appointment of Chief Justice John Roberts to the Supreme Court.

"If you think about it, Jeb Bush gave us Justice Roberts. He's the one who pushed Justice Roberts," Trump, a contender for the 2016 Republican nomination, said to an audience of about 200 at a Madison County Republican dinner over the weekend.

And I thought Cruz and Paul were going to provide the entertainment for the GOP primary

[sharkman]

Democrats have some wingnut named Bernie Sanders, but I notice that the MSM would rather cover Trump.

[Bob Macadoo]

Democrats have some wingnut named Bernie Sanders, but I notice that the MSM would rather cover Trump.

'nuff said.

[kimmy]

Yeah, perhaps Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul could get more coverage if they went around ripping on millions of people.

-k

[Shady]

Yeah, perhaps Bernie Sanders and Rand Paul could get more coverage if they went around ripping on millions of people.

-k

I thought Bernie Sanders' old theory that women fantasize about being raped woulda got more attention. Perhaps if he was a Republican!

[kimmy]

That probably didn't pick up any steam because what Sanders wrote doesn't actually say what you wish it said.

-k