GostHacked Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Well if you want to talk close to home. The Unibomber (Oaklahoma), Branch Davidians (Waco), various glorified serial murderers. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Eyeball your world is selective.Better look a little closer. There are one million Muslims in Canada. The cold reality is that there are Muslims with extremist beliefs in that number. A recent poll said 13% of Muslims in Canada support extremism and terrorism. You want to be smug? The point is and you keep missing it religious extremists of any kind are a direct threat to our society. You want to keep skirting the issue of Muslim extremists by saying well other extremists exist too. How politically appropriate. Focus on the fact that there are violent extremists in other religions. Right. That solves the problem, Your smug denial and trying to focus off this issue by saying well others are crazy too means what? Well Christians were violent once too...oh no wait...some still are...that's your position? What because someone else is violent, its acceptable? What its not politically appropriate to criticize Muslim extremism? Here is the point. Your suggestion we all act smug like you and roll our eyes at Muslim extremism and take the position that its only because these people are Muslim we criticize them is a crock. The fact is Western society has many Muslims being recruited to engage in terror and violence. As we speak tyoung men are being recruited for sleeper cells in the West and to go oversees. You think its a joke? You think your smug comments make it a joke? Te hee giggle giggle, they kill people without trials? Tee hee. We all do that its no big deal? Tee hee they are beating their people when they express opposition to the war? Tee hee? Its all one big joke right? For you yes. You live in a nice kushy neighbourhood.No one is chanting death to you or shooting missiles at you. Not you. Everything is swell.I mean if it happens to Jews,well they are crazy Zionists. They deserve it. Not you. No one attack you, Wink wink nudge nudge, tee hee its only bad Jews they want. Not you. The irony is this-you are exactly their enemy. You are exactly what fuels their beliefs. Each time you open your mouth and apologize for their extremism you fuel their sense of superiority over you and their belief you are a weak self-hating, guilt ridden putz. What next you want to apologize to Muslim extremists for colonialism and imperialism> Right if we only learn to let them be they will be fine. Its just we keep sticking our face in their affairs. They are really peaceful people. Just leave them alone. Excuse me while I puke. You insult anyone with intelligence let alone the Muslims who came here to Canada to get away from this extremism only to see it being cultivated in their communities. Got news for you. While you apologize for Muslim extremism, I reach out to Muslim moderates and all other moderates and condemn it. I reach out to the Iranians,Amiidyya, and Arabs who fled to Canada to get away from it. While you apologize for Hamas and ISIS and Iran, I reach out to them and say, you can be Muslim and reject this extremist terrorist b.s. and no we will not hate you because your Muslim, but we will fight anyone who uses the name of Islam or any other religion to preach genocide and war. Quote I come to you to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Well if you want to talk close to home. The Unibomber (Oaklahoma), Branch Davidians (Waco), various glorified serial murderers. Oh please. You're embarrassing yourself. No religion regularly gives rise to mass movements of primitive barbarism like Islam does. The occasional bombing by Christians can't be compared to the thousands upon thousands of terrorist attacks by Muslims. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Oh please. You're embarrassing yourself. No religion regularly gives rise to mass movements of primitive barbarism like Islam does. The occasional bombing by Christians can't be compared to the thousands upon thousands of terrorist attacks by Muslims. It's not about religion, it is about control. And control is accomplished through religious indoctrination. Why has the war on terrorism only brought us ... more terrorism? Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 "RueToday, 08:52 AM Eyeball your world is selective." Actually it's round, as opposed to flat. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Oh please. You're embarrassing yourself..... The "Unibomber" [sic] was never charged with any bombings in "Oaklahoma" [sic]. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 ...Actually it's round, as opposed to flat. Technically...no...it is an oblate spheroid. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 The "Unibomber" [sic] was never charged with any bombings in "Oaklahoma" [sic]. Did the Branch Davidians, outside of alleged child abuse, actually hurt or threaten anyone outside of their own compound? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 No, but Koresh (Cyrus) at one time has designs on setting up shop in Israel to make the whole sham/scam more authentic ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derek 2.0 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 No, but Koresh (Cyrus) at one time has designs on setting up shop in Israel to make the whole sham/scam more authentic ! That's what I thought......I've read years ago, one of the cult members had his FFL, making all their weapons legal, with the only concern being the lack of tax stamps on the fusion of M-16 lowers to their AR-15s....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 It's an American tradition to..... Praise the Lord and pass the ammunitionPraise the Lord and pass the ammunitionPraise the Lord and pass the ammunitionAnd we'll all stay free Praise the Lord and swing into positionCan't afford to be a politicianPraise the Lord, we're all between perditionAnd the deep blue sea Yes, the sky pilot said it, you gotta give him creditFor a son of a gun of a gunner was he Shouting, 'Praise the Lord, we're on a mighty missionAll aboard, we ain't a-goin' fishin'Praise the Lord and pass the ammunitionAnd we'll all stay free' - Kay Kaiser (1942) Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Looks like ISIS has kicked the bejeebers out of the old "good guy", "bad guy" program in the Middle East. This mornings TV politico shows were an eye opener. It appears the USA is seriously considering air attacks in Syria. Against Assad, that bloodthirsty dictator? No! Against those bloodthirsty Muslim ISIS rabble attacking Assad. But Assad is the bad guys and ISIS is the bad guys so who are the good guys? It is the USA who is jumping into the fray. It looks like America has decided that "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" (for a while anyway) and going into Syria - to bomb the Syrian rebels. So lets get this straight: The bad guys ISIS, who are using the military armaments which it took from the good guys Iraqi's and the American $billions it has taken out of Iraqi banks supplied by the very good guys Americans, are attacking the bad guy Assad who is now a good guy and has to be helped by the very good guy Americans. Now the really bad guys Iranians also have ground troops that are ready to be used to help the good guy/bad guy Assad troops defeat the really bad guys ISIS. Whew! I Gotta buy a new program. Tough to tell the scumbags and murderers from the freedom fighters. They should be forced to wear different colored hats. Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 No Big Deal....Stalin was a good/bad guy during WW2. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shady Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 The "Unibomber" [sic] was never charged with any bombings in "Oaklahoma" [sic]. Good catch, and a great reminder that this particular poster has no idea what he's talking about. Which probably makes ISIS trutherism much easier to swallow. Journalist Foley was beheaded by an undercover MI6 agent, don't you know?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Good what? Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Good grief. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dre Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 The cold reality is that there are Muslims with extremist beliefs in that number. A recent poll said 13% of Muslims in Canada support extremism and terrorism. You want to be smug? The point is and you keep missing it religious extremists of any kind are a direct threat to our society. Theres a lot of things that threaten our society in various ways. But I cant find much evidence that Canadian muslims are a very serious one of those. Quote I question things because I am human. And call no one my father who's no closer than a stranger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 No Big Deal....Stalin was a good/bad guy during WW2. But individuals do not count. One person can easily change his/her mind. When a whole nation or army is renamed from good to bad and/or reverse then those kinds of miracles should be noted. Saddam, Gaddafi, Karzi etc kept switching from good to bad depending on their oil policy. I just remembered, there is another ground fighting force in that region that may soon become the good guys. The Taliban are a formidable force. Just ask Russia, America, Canada, Britain ... Looks like the Taliban will soon again be in charge of Afghanistan and their ground experience would be valuable against ISIS. They are Sunni but seem to follow Shia law. They do not seem as radical as ISIS and they could be labelled good guys at the flip of a coin. They would do well under American air cover. In Canada we are lucky to have the USA protecting us. The Americans continue to encourage their young to charge into the teeth of the enemy for “God and Country”. We all understood the “falling domino effect” where the fall of Vietnam would lead to the takeover of all of Southeast Asia and those Vietcong would be at America's and Canada's door. The Americans sent their bravest, sacrificed 58,300 young American lives, 153,303 WIA and 1,641 MIA. - and lost Vietnam. The dominoes never fell. No Vietcong at our door. They are now busy working for American manufacturing companies in Vietnam. Now this wonderful country has already sacrificed 2,200 young lives in Afghanistan and 4,500 in Iraq to protect the rest of the world from these murderous hordes. They believe that we fight them there or we fight them here later. Good for them. Now they are ready to go back in and start bombing again once they (and we) can figure out who the good guys and bad guys are. My country right or wrong! God save America! God save Canada from getting involved in this mess! Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) But individuals do not count. They do when they are the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. My commie...right or wrong ! America also aligned itself with Great Britain and all of its faithful minions (like Canada) even when it wasn't always in its best interest. For instance, the U.S. lost 116,000 killed and twice as many wounded for a royally dumb ass war called WWI. God save the Queen ! Edited August 24, 2014 by bush_cheney2004 Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 It's not about religion, it is about control. And control is accomplished through religious indoctrination. Why has the war on terrorism only brought us ... more terrorism? It's about religion. It's about THEIR religion. It's no good telling them they're wrong. To THEM, their religion is telling them to do stuff like this. Their religion is a violent and unforgiving religion. To say this is not about religion is to ignore reality. As to why the war on terrorism brings more terrorism, you can't kill a religion. You can only kill the people who espouse it. And there are a lot of ignorant, violent people in the middle east. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 Theres a lot of things that threaten our society in various ways. But I cant find much evidence that Canadian muslims are a very serious one of those. Let's hope the ones fighting in Syria and Iraq don't come back and change your mind. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 24, 2014 Report Share Posted August 24, 2014 (edited) It's about religion. It's about THEIR religion. It's no good telling them they're wrong. To THEM, their religion is telling them to do stuff like this. Their religion is a violent and unforgiving religion. To say this is not about religion is to ignore reality. As to why the war on terrorism brings more terrorism, you can't kill a religion. You can only kill the people who espouse it. And there are a lot of ignorant, violent people in the middle east. To them it is about religion. To the people backing either side, they are simply using religion as an excuse, or more of a cover for their bigger plans. Pit Sunni against Muslim,, play them off each other? Distract from the real issue. Remember who created Al-Queda? It was not Bin Laden. So, behind the scenes you need to understand it is not about religion at all. Edited August 24, 2014 by GostHacked Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 It's about religion. It's about THEIR religion. It's no good telling them they're wrong. To THEM, their religion is telling them to do stuff like this. Their religion is a violent and unforgiving religion. To say this is not about religion is to ignore reality. As to why the war on terrorism brings more terrorism, you can't kill a religion. You can only kill the people who espouse it. And there are a lot of ignorant, violent people in the middle east. The extremism is a symptom it's not the cause. Your entire way of looking at this is a lot closer to the cause. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 (edited) They do when they are the General Secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union. My commie...right or wrong ! America also aligned itself with Great Britain and all of its faithful minions (like Canada) even when it wasn't always in its best interest. For instance, the U.S. lost 116,000 killed and twice as many wounded for a royally dumb ass war called WWI. God save the Queen ! America and Canada and ... have never done anything that they did not consider to be in their own interests. I'll rephrase to remove the negatives, - anything and everything that the American and Canadian government has done was, is and will be what they believe to be in their own interests. Why would any government of the USA and /or Canada do anything to bring harm to itself? I especially resent any insinuation that the government of the USA would be dumb enough to knowingly sacrifice 116,000 citizens and wound another 300,000 in WWI against its better interests! The stars and stripes have to wave in the breeze, those cannons have to explode, those young men have to charge into the face of death and those graveside services have to continue. The USA has to protect the rest of the world from itself. God Bless America!!!!! Edited August 25, 2014 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted August 25, 2014 Report Share Posted August 25, 2014 The stars and stripes have to wave in the breeze, those cannons have to explode, those young men have to charge into the face of death and those graveside services have to continue. The USA has to protect the rest of the world from itself. Thank you for your interesting response. Logically, this will lead to clearer thinking about who/what/when the United States (and Canada) choose to affiliate themselves with as a matter of domestic and foreign policy. This will help in better understanding the events and discussion on the American television programming that appears to attract your attention on Sunday mornings. God Save the Queen and Commonwealth ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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