bush_cheney2004 Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Also - a growth industry. The New York Times is more venerable too, but Facebook gets more attention these days. Facebook is growing, the NYT is shrinking. "Drones" have a long way to go before even coming close to the volume of conflict death caused by guns, blades, and sticks. Facebook is already waning....at least with "teens". Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Guy Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 (edited) And that is what many want. Perpetual war. And if perpetual war can be done via autonomous vehicles, it will be done. The bravery of being out of range. There is a Star Wars episode called "A Taste of Armageddon" which addressed such a scenario; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Taste_of_Armageddon The message was that the "cleaner" and sanitized a war then the greater the chance that it will continue. There is a need for carnage, death and destruction to force the combatants into some kind of compromise. An interesting concept. Edited July 10, 2014 by Big Guy Quote Note - For those expecting a response from Big Guy: I generally do not read or respond to posts longer then 300 words nor to parsed comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 An ancient concept too given the Buddhist precept that the path to enlightenment is painful. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty16 Posted July 10, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Back on topic, the Iraqi people are now saying that the brutalisty that was expected from ISIS is just not happening. The US supplied Iraqi army is being asked to surrender their arms and most of them are doing so willingly. That's in ecchange for ISIS not harming them. And of course, the ones who want to continue to fight on the side of the US occupation are being 'chop, chopped.' Too bad because Saddam had it all under control and Iraq was prosperous and peaceful under his rule. Unfortunately the inevitable is taking place and heads will continue to roll until the US occupation is swept out of Iraq. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Back on topic, the Iraqi people are now saying that the brutalisty that was expected from ISIS is just not happening. It's not happening? Are you sure? Countless murders execution style, attacks on prisons, blowing up shrines. That's not brutal? Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Back on topic, the Iraqi people are now saying that the brutalisty that was expected from ISIS is just not happening. The US supplied Iraqi army is being asked to surrender their arms and most of them are doing so willingly. That's in ecchange for ISIS not harming them. And of course, the ones who want to continue to fight on the side of the US occupation are being 'chop, chopped.' Too bad because Saddam had it all under control and Iraq was prosperous and peaceful under his rule. Unfortunately the inevitable is taking place and heads will continue to roll until the US occupation is swept out of Iraq. Under Sadam Iraq was led into the longest lasting conventional war of the 20th century. Then he invaded Kuwait for another ass-kicking. You call that "prosperous and peaceful"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted July 10, 2014 Report Share Posted July 10, 2014 Back on topic, the Iraqi people are now saying that the brutalisty that was expected from ISIS is just not happening. Says who? You've spoken to "The Iraqi people" have you? Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty16 Posted July 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Yes, I've spoken to all the Iraqi people too. I speak to people and don't just come up with kneejerk reactions to all the US evil because I've been incapable of escaping the US brainwashing indoctrination. And you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monty16 Posted July 11, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 ON Guard, Under Saddam the US supplied both the Iraqis and the Iranians with chemical and biological weapons and kept it going for a long time but not the longest ware in history. Check back to your 8th. grade history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted July 11, 2014 Report Share Posted July 11, 2014 Yes, I've spoken to all the Iraqi people too. I speak to people and don't just come up with kneejerk reactions to all the US evil because I've been incapable of escaping the US brainwashing indoctrination. The evidence of those people voting with their feet and fleeing would seem to contradict you. Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted July 12, 2014 Report Share Posted July 12, 2014 Yes, I've spoken to all the Iraqi people too. I speak to people and don't just come up with kneejerk reactions to all the US evil because I've been incapable of escaping the US brainwashing indoctrination. And you? You sound like an 8th grader, so go check your books, and learn how to read before making comments. I didn't say "in history" I said in the 20th century. Perhaps yor grade 8 books don't have that info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted July 13, 2014 Report Share Posted July 13, 2014 Under Sadam Iraq was led into the longest lasting conventional war of the 20th century. Then he invaded Kuwait for another ass-kicking. You call that "prosperous and peaceful"?Peoples' memories are short. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Argus Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Back on topic, the Iraqi people are now saying that the brutalisty that was expected from ISIS is just not happening. Isis orders all Christians to convert to Islam or be killed. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28381455 Quote "A liberal is someone who claims to be open to all points of view — and then is surprised and offended to find there are other points of view.” William F Buckley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyeball Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Yep, religion always makes things worse, tell us something else we don't know. I do notice the Islamists are willing to take cash in lieu of conversion or execution...In God they trust and all other's pay cash. Their venality makes them seem more human. You know, I bet if we just left these societies to their own devices they'd all just as likely pull themselves up out their dark ages the way our societies did. And probably a lot faster given they'd be doing so in such a technological age. We just have to stop diddling with their governments and economies and stop arresting their development. Quote A government without public oversight is like a nuclear plant without lead shielding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bush_cheney2004 Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Yep, religion always makes things worse, tell us something else we don't know. I do notice the Islamists are willing to take cash in lieu of conversion or execution...In God they trust and all other's pay cash. Well, to be fair, the Crown and God did the same thing in North America for land, labour, and resources. Quote Economics trumps Virtue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Isis orders all Christians to convert to Islam or be killed. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28381455 Your claim is an exaggeration. The Christians also have the option to leave and the option to stay and pay the Jizya. This is how it has always been in Islamic states that follow Sharia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbg Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Isis orders all Christians to convert to Islam or be killed. http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28381455 Sound like a rational order. Will definitely help the "country" attract business and tourism. Quote Free speech: "You can say what you want, but I don't have to lend you my megaphone." Always remember that when you are in the right you can afford to keep your temper, and when you are in the wrong you cannot afford to lose it. - J.J. Reynolds. Will the steps anyone is proposing to fight "climate change" reduce a single temperature, by a single degree, at a single location? The mantra of "world opinion" or the views of the "international community" betrays flabby and weak reasoning (link). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Your claim is an exaggeration. The Christians also have the option to leave and the option to stay and pay the Jizya. This is how it has always been in Islamic states that follow Sharia. Surely you're not defending isis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-1=e^ipi Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Surely you're not defending isis? I am merely pointing out reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
On Guard for Thee Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 It's a pretty alarming reality. Certainly the Iraqi's don't need any more trouble and now they have to rise up against these thugs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted July 25, 2014 Report Share Posted July 25, 2014 http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-28481283 They are pushing into Syria now. With the equipment the US left behind years ago because they said it was going to be too expensive to ship back to the US. ISIS thanks the US for their contribution to the ISIS Caliphate. Not only that these dolts are blowing up more ancient shrines. Like the Taliban did in Afghanistan with blowing up the two large Buddha statues. Blowing up ancient monuments/shrines is a crime against humanity. A crime against our history. Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Dog Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 ISIS beheads kidnapped US Journalist Quote America...."the worlds largest, best-armed shopping mall."-Ivor Tossell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keepitsimple Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 ISIS beheads kidnapped US Journalist "We need to understand the root cause of terrorism"........... Quote Back to Basics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rue Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 Thanks Keepitsimple. Your name spells it out. Quote I come to you to hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GostHacked Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 (edited) "We need to understand the root cause of terrorism"........... It would be better to know who is funding this ISIS group. The root cause is being obfuscated. Should be looking at the US proxies of Qatar and Saudi Arabia. http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/03/09/us-iraq-saudi-qatar-idUSBREA2806S20140309 (Reuters) - Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki has accused Saudi Arabia and Qatar of openly funding the Sunni Muslim insurgents his troops are battling in western Anbar province, in his strongest such statement since fighting started there early this year. Security forces have been fighting insurgents from the al Qaeda-affiliated Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL) in Anbar's two main cities - Fallujah and Ramadi - since January after the arrest of a Sunni lawmaker and the clearing of an anti-government protest camp prompted a tribal revolt and allowed ISIL to set up fighting positions in the cities. Maliki's remarks play to Iraqi fears of the Sunni Arab states as he tries to burnish his standing as a defender of the mainly Shi'ite country before elections at the end of April. Violence has escalated in the last 12 months - ISIL has led a devastating campaign of suicide bombings since mid-2013 - and Maliki said in a mid-February speech that Saudi Arabia and Qatar were offering money to recruit fighters in Fallujah. http://www.businessinsider.com/isis-funding-us-allies-2014-6 The Islamic State for Iraq and the Levant is mostly funded through criminal activity, such as the theft of a potential $425 million from a central bank in Mosul. But the group is also receiving private donations from wealthy Sunnis in American-allied Gulf nations such as Kuwait, Qatar, and, possibly, Saudi Arabia. Edited August 20, 2014 by GostHacked Quote Google : Webster Griffin Tarpley, Gerald Celente, Max Keiser ohm on soundcloud.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.