Canada's Gas Prices

[Michael Hardner]

Here's a video about skyscrapers that collapsed due to fire.

Dick Cheney made it...

[Thinkinoutsidethebox]

Hey Micheal, you might be right, I may be completely out there. As you can see though, even on the internet you have to separate the wheat from the chaff (My opinion). I think there are people out there that are willing to sacrifice a life (or thousands) to add to their power and fortunes, there always have been.

I do know we are both paying at the pumps, grumbling a bit and then traveling on our merry way. As I travel throughout North America I see infrastructure growing. There are claims of greenhouse gas reductions, it's total nonsense. Tier four emissions standards in diesel engines alone has resulted in a ten percent increase in CO2 emissions in the trucking industry. A carbon tax will further increase the price of fuel but the costs of goods and services will just go up to adjust for it (inflation) and the world will continue turning...

Same to you too, be seeing you around

[Michael Hardner]

I think there are people out there that are willing to sacrifice a life (or thousands) to add to their power and fortunes, there always have been.

Sure...

I do know we are both paying at the pumps, grumbling a bit and then traveling on our merry way. As I travel throughout North America I see infrastructure growing. There are claims of greenhouse gas reductions, it's total nonsense.

Agreed, it's not reducing.

Same to you too, be seeing you around

Cheers then...

[overthere]

Here's a video about skyscrapers that collapsed due to fire.

Dick Cheney made it...

Thanks for that. Did you know that in low rise buildings, those with unprotected steel beam structures are much more likely to quickly collapse than the same structure with unprotected wood beams?

The reason is that the heat causes steel to quickly deform and sag. The fire chars the heavy wood beams, but does not burn them through enough to collapse. This is seen in forest fires, where the fire scorches the bark and wood surface , and kills the tree, but leaves it standing for many years.

[Boges]

Significant Thread Shift here.

Now we're talking about the 911 Truther Movement?

TOWER 7!!!!!!!

[PIK]

Solar and wind turbines leave a huge footprint. Where our damns that we can't use ,is the cleanest cheapest and renewable as you get. But the eco freak/progressives can't seem to see that. And throw in Quebec and we are set.

[Thinkinoutsidethebox]

Sorry Boges, we did wander a trifle off topic didn't we? The point is we really don't have a clue what the elite and the powers that be are up to, I believe we are way better off in Canada but I also wouldn't be a bit surprised the U.S. and multi nationals have more influence then the voter base here.

[On Guard for Thee]

Solar and wind turbines leave a huge footprint. Where our damns that we can't use ,is the cleanest cheapest and renewable as you get. But the eco freak/progressives can't seem to see that. And throw in Quebec and we are set.

Those "footprints" are much easier fixed than the release of millions of tons of sequestered carbon. I don't know what dams you are speaking of, 80% of my power comes from a dam. As to the "eco freak" comment it sounds as though you must have worshiped at the feet of the likes of Joe Oliver.

[Thinkinoutsidethebox]

PIK, there was an artical I read awhile back that proposed an interesting solar/wind power generating infrastructure. Basically every building would have it's own power generation system complete with electricity storage (I think it was a type of hydrogen system. The idea was that because different areas produced power at different times of the day so if all units were tied together. So the areas that were producing surpluses would feed through the grid to areas that were experiencing shortages. Basically a province like Alberta for instance would have like a million mini generating stations throughout the province all tied together through the grid system. It seems like a good idea to me.

Problem is big oil is probably not going to be too happy with something like this and many would argue it would put a bunch of people out of work.

There goes political will...

[Boges]

Back to Gas Prices.

At what point do governments starts to feel the pain from lower than expected excise revenue? Their "Projections" couldn't have seen Gas go down to the low $1.10's/litre.

Do people increase consumption in response to the lowered price or did the high prices already make Canadians used to monitoring their gasoline budget?

Edited November 20, 2014 by Boges

[overthere]

95.9 /liter here.

93.9 last week

[PIK]

Built in korea and ship over here and then trucked to the site. Damns, Ottawa river, Madawaska river niagra falls are already built and are the cleanest cheapest there is, but are running under 50%, but you still have to pay everyone salaries anyways because the don't lay off 50% of the workers. And then there is Quebec. I wish people would just admit that the liberals were wrong and lets fix this mess. And I want a investigation to smithmans trip to korea when he signed these deal by himself.

[sharkman]

95.9 /liter here.

93.9 last week

Then you're in Alberta.

I just heard on this morning's news that oil prices are down 34% from their peak in the summer. 34 freaking percent, and prices in the Lower Mainland of BC are down 20% from last summer's peak. It's now clear that the oil giants are ripping off Canadians.

[Smallc]

Oil is not the only thing that drives the price of gasoline.

[Shady]

With North America becoming more and more energy independent, and significantly higher producers of crude, the middle east and OPEC are having less and less power to set world oil prices. They no longer control most of the world's production.

[GostHacked]

Around the Ottawa area, it's down to about 1.05/l. That is down 25-30 cents per liter over the past three months.

Methinks it's OPEC's strategy to try and put the hurt on Russia to push back on BRICS. If that is the case, then we can see how competition in the markets will benefit the consumer overall. But entities like OPEC do not welcome competition.

[overthere]

I think it hit $.90 at Costco today

[Boges]

Around the Ottawa area, it's down to about 1.05/l. That is down 25-30 cents per liter over the past three months.

Methinks it's OPEC's strategy to try and put the hurt on Russia to push back on BRICS. If that is the case, then we can see how competition in the markets will benefit the consumer overall. But entities like OPEC do not welcome competition.

I've been told the Oilsands are only profitable at a certain price since the process is labour intensive. So it's not hard to believe they're trying to put them out of bidness either.

Though I love the prices the way they are it could have other consequences. But then there's do-gooders like the Kathleen Wynne government that'll just tack on a Carbon tax anyway so whatevs.

[sharkman]

I think it hit $.90 at Costco today

This morning in Burnaby BC(basically Vancouver) it was 1.24/litre. It's nice that the oil companies are giving out freebies in Alberta, but for a 50 litre purchase, that's $17 extra every fill up that the Greater Vancouver region is paying. For all the leftwing whining that's done out here on the left coast, I'm surprised there isn't a major bitch fest going on about this. They whine about paying more for transit, they whine about paying Port Mann tolls, they whine about paying more christmas, taxes, or any other household expense. But for gas I guess they've given up.

Right now a bunch of them are up on Burnaby mountain protesting and getting arrested over the Kinder Morgan pipeline. I guess they really do want $4/litre gas.

[Bryan]

Right now a bunch of them are up on Burnaby mountain protesting and getting arrested over the Kinder Morgan pipeline. I guess they really do want $4/litre gas.

Those ones don't know what they want. They just show up where they're paid to show up.

[eyeball]

This morning in Burnaby BC(basically Vancouver) it was 1.24/litre. It's nice that the oil companies are giving out freebies in Alberta, but for a 50 litre purchase, that's $17 extra every fill up that the Greater Vancouver region is paying. For all the leftwing whining that's done out here on the left coast, I'm surprised there isn't a major bitch fest going on about this. They whine about paying more for transit, they whine about paying Port Mann tolls, they whine about paying more christmas, taxes, or any other household expense. But for gas I guess they've given up.

Right now a bunch of them are up on Burnaby mountain protesting and getting arrested over the Kinder Morgan pipeline. I guess they really do want $4/litre gas.

So what are we to make of all the right-wing whining that this higher cost reflects all the extra taxes and levies and such that the left-wing whined for in the first place?

[Bryan]

So what are we to make of all the right-wing whining that this higher cost reflects all the extra taxes and levies and such that the left-wing whined for in the first place?

The left often asks for things they don't understand that go against their own best insterests. It's the right's job to save them from themselves.

[On Guard for Thee]

The left often asks for things they don't understand that go against their own best insterests. It's the right's job to save them from themselves.

You mean like when Harper took a substantial surplus from Paul Martin and turned it into the biggest deficit in history? If that's the rights way of saving us, thank you, but ah, that'll be all for now.

[Bryan]

You mean like when Harper took a substantial surplus from Paul Martin and turned it into the biggest deficit in history? If that's the rights way of saving us, thank you, but ah, that'll be all for now.

No, I mean like how Martin had no idea what he was doing and left billions in spending obligations unfunded, and Harper had to clean up his mess.

The giant deficit? Demanded by the left during a minority government. Another mess also cleaned up by Harper.

Edited November 28, 2014 by Bryan

[eyeball]

The left often asks for things they don't understand that go against their own best insterests. It's the right's job to save them from themselves.

So it's the right's job to be the left's Nanny.