Michael Hardner

We already have accepted the principle that a minority of folks pay for overall progress, whether it be because of immigration, technical change, or guaranteeing of rights such as free-speech, gun control etc. Nations don't work on a consensus basis, tribes do. If more than a handful of people reject the chief's idea they don't happen in a tribe. 51% is all you need in a nation. There are no deep ideas among people who cling to the past because they believe myths. Of course, those who cling to the future tend to be elites and, well, they don't care about "us". From Gemini: Jürgen Habermas's quote, "in [the] process of enlightenment there are only participants" (often cited from 1973/1974), highlights that enlightenment is not a top-down, expert-driven project.

How can you have pride without shame ? Or shame without pride ? 'PRIDE' is one of the most ambiguous words in use today IMO.

That's a feature, not a bug. Although you have to be careful not to get a bug if you're at either end of that equation. This thread keeps going on, and as I pointed out, "Morally Acceptable" is community based. And "worrying" is not a rational process, it's emotional. The unstated assumption here is that groups have morals, and that's ok. What it means is that therefore Canadians as a group have them. They are going to be necessarily different from those of "whites" due to math, but they exist. And the fun part is that as part of the group you will contribute, even a little bit, as to what is 'right/wrong'... from your posts, your words and actions, and how you look at that trans lady on the bus disapprovingly before you put your hand on her knee. The NOT FUN part is that you don't get to decide, in the end. Any more than you can stop yourself from smelling your neighbour's BBQ. We all share things, not just market prices for oil.

I like that you're talking about elimination of bigortry as a journey vs destination We can be ashamed and proud of "our" past at the same time.

Your take on Reagan's meaning is twisted I think. His intention was to show government intervention as misguided, because "they" are hapless and at worst completely wrong about their potential and limitations. 1980 viewpoint. Reaganomics and the Chicago School of Economics were at the cusp of changing the world political economy. The 2026 version is "the government man is there to f*** over the private citizen, personally benefit from the interaction (financially) and distract from the Epstein scandal. So do Lewis and Poilievre want to help themselves or help the country, thereby helping themselves? Your answer will tell us what year you're in

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/daily-quotidien/250430/dq250430b-eng.htm The US already owns $683 Billion of Canada.

If they bring in 50K immigrants and one commits a crime, the principles at play indicate that those 50K people are all tarred with the same brush. I'm not sure if it's logic, math, poor values, ignorance or willful trolling. But I don't care either. It's just incorrect and there's very little I can discuss with the people who espouse these methods. Really you should ignore those you can't converse with.

@John Stone @John Johnston @LinkSoul60 @bush_cheney2004 I follow Peter Zeihan, a conservative geopolitics analyst. He's not infallible and admits mistakes, but it doesn't stop him from opining on complex and unpredictable outcomes. Here he talks about the implications for the next 50 (!) years. Take with a pinch of salt but such content invites discussion not moral judgement or even assessments of accuracy. What thoughts can we add to the facts presented, is what I find interesting.

I thought MAGA types found hammer attacks funny? 🤔

I said maybe the Iranian regime.

I take no joy in people reconsidering what is happening. There's no joy to be had here. No one is going to win from this. Maybe the Iranian regime could consider it a win, if they stay

If a Google car could just average two people per car, congestion would evaporate I'm sure.

Think about it: the choices are - kill millions or look like a wimp. The choice is easy for some

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/canadian-universities-exemptions-due-to-war-9.7153939 Universities across Canada are offering some international students extra supports like exam deferrals and extensions on tuition as the war continues in the Middle East. The University of Victoria said it has reached out directly to students who have links to Iran to offer support on a case-by-case basis. Those supports include offering special bursary funding and lifting holds on registration related to overdue tuition. In this era, we're never far from people who are impacted...

Excuse me? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Wilder_filmography How many classics do you see on that list? Even minor contributions like FIVE GRAVES CAIRO and his Sherlock Holmes movie will pull you in.

Another anti-discussion exercise... Sniping and arcane/bizarre insult games... The question at the top is the starting gun for this wacky race to the bottom, and is entirely subjective. Like asking "do anchovies taste good?" This is because morality is a currency of a community. So the question is entirely dependent of which community you're asking. Transgender acceptance, interracial marriage... Any of these can be moral or immoral in a certain community. From Google Chrome Key Dimensions of Morality: Subjective and Cultural Variations: Morals are not static; they often change over time and differ across cultures, communities, and religions. For example, views on topics such as technology, reproductive rights, or lifestyle choices can shift, changing what is considered "moral".

I appreciate your honesty, and expressing your opinion this way. But I'm asking honestly: shouldn't the president be accountable for this? For sure people would have told him about the extreme risk involved. Some people, like Megyn Kelly, are trying to say that people didn't tell him about the risks them but they were obvious. For sure someone would have warned him, and so the decision was his... Not Israel and not Steven Miller or whoever. That's my take, I'm honestly interested in yours. Thanks for your time.

He's another rich kid though. None of them have any sense. I stood in Abilene Kansas, and looked up and down the main Street of that lonely set of dusted wooden buildings. And I thought.... My God.... Dwight d. Eisenhower came from here. What a place Maintaining a meritocracy is hard. Much easier to hand a job to the last guy's kid.

Anyway, I think eyeball is talking about the 1950s.

You could also ask why at the same person would volunteer for service for their country. This is what I can't get my head around. But I have come to accept that Canadians can't understand Americans.

CBC Hate Watch Ratings Bump...

Just log on here and see if you can post. If not, you're either dead or Cloudflare is happening. I'll bet you were progressive FOR THE TIMES when you were younger. We grew up watching I Spy with that shining example of Negro virtue... Bill Cosby. One of the all time greats, wonder what happened to him. Anyway, progress goes one direction. I'll even bet some of the Poilievre supporters are MARRIED LESBIANS, super gasp. It actually stuns me how the rhetoric we hear from anti-progressives is disconnected from their reality of their own lives. One of the most virulent anti-Muslim posters on here, as I recall, revealed that he was friends with his Muslim neighbour ? Maybe we are actually just blabbing and not talking to the real world.

Not at all. The fixation with identity politics is to me a pervasive and actually anti-political force because it's disunifying at the core. People are going to have to learn to focus on material aspects of life, rather than identity, to move forward. We don't have identity in common, or even values as much as the need for security, shelter and food. Economics trumps virtue, as they say.

I'm not saying that he's right, just interested in getting an analysis of the situation that includes details. You're more familiar with him than I am, and this is the first thing I have seen from him, so your assessment is pertinent thanks. Edited to add: I discounted his opinion by a lot after thinking about this post. The Ukraine assesment was egregiously off the mark.

Interesting take...