Michael Hardner

Thanks for your replies folks. I will try to engage with you from to time when it's productive, I promise. 🙂

I love how do many on here think they're discussing something with me! I'm not even on this thread!

Well, ok. I'm going to focus on things that matter, not this political chum... Keep fighting me as though we're actually discussing something if you enjoy doing that. I'm not running from criticism, I'm using IGNORE. That means I don't see your posts unless I click on them and say SHOW POST. Enjoy our future discussions, by all means.

I'm saying WOULD HAVE BEEN. That means I am making a supposition. As in "suppose this never became a political football"... And the rest of your post is more of that very football game. I don't care about it. I wouldn't and don't take my kids. Others can do so. I think that the entire point of it is politics now. My opinion. And yes, I have you on Ignore. Maybe it's because your post talks past mine... I say it's a political battlefield, then you say you disagree but then say that the left is pushing it - reinforcing my point. If you want to fight about drag queening find someone else. The cultural wars are mine to ignore if I choose.

No, why?

Ahhh... argument by photography. The favoured rhetorical device for the illiterate. Well, I finally got some Culture Warriors to admit that Drag Queen play is ok today, so let's see if I can get on a roll. Is kissing your kids and grandkids on the lips WRONG ? Question is for WCM.

I have my answer. Finally. I am neither impressed nor frightened by men in drag reading to children, myself. It's more a culture war thing and therefore I am not interested.

So dressing in drag - on its own - is fine then? Forgive me, but trying to nail down a principle is pretty tough slagging here...

Good point. I think that drag queen story hour would have been a curious fad at best if it hadn't been made into a battlefield. I don't care either way if a parent wants to bring their kids. We've happened upon them, and my kids don't seem interested. But parents now mobilize and feel the need to schedule these events to signal inclusion in a hostile environment.

Well he's done right? You hate his guts? .... I really don't know - you're the Culture Warrior, explain what happens next...

Another example @Matthew... I just posted a purported picture of JD Vance wearing a dress at Yale, where he studied. I sure don't understand kids today, but for sure I don't understand why common people fall for hypocritical moral panics like "drag queens are the problem now". Our biggest problems are disunity, a top-heavy economy, and the environment. Throwing scapegoats in front of the camera doesn't fix the latter two issues and makes the first problem worse. So, like Marxism, baseless rhetoric and panic are all encouraged by the current environment. But then again, I started the culture wars... 🙄

Ok. Ha ha ha ⤵️ https://www.thedailybeast.com/jd-vances-campaign-wont-deny-thats-him-in-viral-drag-photo

Sorry I just can't follow this. I only said that "not all liberals see themselves as being in a culture war, the way you do." You had some problem with that... Because liberals didn't reject the charges against Trump. I said that they could still not see themselves as being in a culture war. Then came a deluge of points from all over the map. Said that your side would "end it..." but also socialism WOULDN'T end... also... Differentiated liberals from libbies.... Called me ... not conservative ... Said I make excuses... All I'm trying to do is understand your points. You seem to think I'm the enemy or something when I'm just trying to understand the dog's breakfast of points you keep throwing out. Well, at least I tried.

Found this... Your take on politics and the culture war that you are part of. I'm not into this war...

1. I said not all liberals see themselves as being in a culture war. You think that *I* am a liberal and I don't see myself in one. You also were quoted as giving up on politics right? So which part is bullshit? 2. The public is still pretty much split on left/right spectrum and majorities oppose you on major issues. So now you're saying progressive socialism will continue. Ok. What did you mean when said "we will end it" ? Sorry to fluster you by trying to figure out what you mean...

1. 🤔 What part is bullshit? 2. How will that eradicate an entire philosophy?

1. That doesn't mean that they see THEMSELVES in the culture war. Of course you, a culture warrior, see them that way. Why wouldn't you? You have seen that politics is pointless. 2. How? You can't eradicate that worldview, it's persistent over decades and longer.

It's a necessary tactic, perhaps, when trying to differentiate a candidate as "different" when we have a "uniparty" (MTG term)

Not all liberals see themselves as being in a culture war, the way you do.

Significant increase?

Our comrades and our witches too it seems. Pray for our witches.

It's not, and it's a good thing for him. The one exception is when he paid a sex worker out of campaign funds and tried to cover it up.

Implying that a woman in a position of power is a wh0re doesn't resonate in 2024 like it did in 19 74.

The last two jobs on Trump's resume are game show host and president.

Pick a point in time where things will stop getting warmer then...