Michael Hardner

Ok, so based on our sample space of one, Haitians eat dog.🤔 I saw him go for the bait but I also know that Americans rejected Hillary Clinton for smugness and... well, being a woman. Not sure if this is going to translate into votes for her.

Is there anyone on here who can give a Haitian "Perspektiv" ? 🤣

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/taylor-swift-endorses-kamala-harris-rcna170547 Far more importantly, Taylor Swift has been turned. That's going to hurt Trump, and get under his skin. ( 😅 )

Think so? 🤔

1. Well you don't seem thrilled about self checkout machines for example. 2. There's a sweet spot in between...

I don't get what you're saying. What's possible? Staying home from Pride? I guess so. It is too bad for people who live in the neighborhood though.. they don't have a choice Like I don't have a choice about the f****cking Air Show or the Santa Claus parade. But then again, I understand that you don't always get your way when you live in a community.

Still, it's not blind acceptance. Lots of people are aware of the pitfalls and mitigate it. Your post strikes me as griping against change. The wheelbarrow had its pitfalls too. McLuhan pointed out that technology arrives in time to solve the problems that it starts causing and if you think about it, it makes sense. Social media arrived to solve the problem of information hoarding and lack of access to good information. Now look how good we have it

TNC is troll news... if I see a story from them I pass it by the way that others pass by anything reported by CTV, CBC, Global and The Globe and Mail. You keep your news, I'll keep mine. Eventually your news will be so thirsty for viewers that they'll tell us that weather reports are a conspiracy and will report "Truth Weather" or somesuch.

Well, forgive me but if you don't have a link I can't just accept your characterization of what was said, given that I already challenged your previous statement. Of course violence is incompatible with culture we want to foster, but there's no way to project this incident on to mass policy if that's what you mean.

Well, I for one read lots of coverage that talks about the negative effects of immigration. I will give an example after you give the one I already asked for.

Cohn was such a troll that they wrote a play with him as a major villain. He trolled America his whole life...

Well, often people would say something like immigrants had values incompatible with democracy, or somesuch so it wasn't like people were calling economic arguments 'racist'. But if you have an example, we'd be glad to admoish the poster who said that.

Okay but the flaws you mentioned have been there since the beginning. So why are we only seeing dissent over democracy itself now? Got more to do with a new media form that is much more democratic than The press or The radio or TV tower. Technology will prevail, and as with the printing press The new landscape for political interaction will be reset. Both the left and right will be satisfied. At least until the next thing comes along.

I don't think we blindly accept technology, the value is apparent to anyone who has eyes. Perhaps true democracy would spread the benefits more equitably.

The fact that all three groups work together still, and did peaceably for over 100 years speaks to pragmatism.

A good summary. Don't lose sight of the corporate takeover of housing and the implications for ordinary working people. Lobbying could achieve for housing what it did for immigration.

We need to be proud of our capacity for pragmatism, and value work and fairness.

1. Well, that's for sure. Our cognitive functions, and our social functions for group measure evolved to thrive in a certain framework which we can't recreate anymore. There need to be aspects of competition, cooperation, leadership and followship in balance. A society that lies to the consumer in order to get their attention and their business is a bad breeding ground for citizenry.

1. perspektiv isn't crazy 2. It's apples to oranges, but... it's valid to try to compare... it's just unlikely you'll convince anyone, and by 'you'll' I mean 'i'll'. I guess the fact that we're debating it speaks to the fact that Covid did have a large impact, even if you think my claim is ridiculous

1. I am, and it IS an apples and oranges comparison I allow that. But 1 million Canadians 'deployed' and a fraction of that who actually saw combat is a smaller number than all 40 million or so under lockdown. Now, of course, combat is more stressful than lockdown but there are also cross-impacts. 2. I said it's "possible", not that it's correct or moral to do so. This is another example of you arguing a point that I am *not* making 3. Again, I'm not arguing that the media coverage wasn't overblown or that fear didn't result. You're right that mental health wasn't addressed as much back then, but I'm not sure that people are getting care to the point they need it today either. 4. This seems to negate your own point in #3. 5. Ok, well I am definitely not saying your points are wrong. You have good points but ultimately I still think that Covid was more impactful. ---- Yes, your points are quite arguable and defensible but I just disagree on this.

Would that have happened in the 18th century ? "Amusing Ourselves to Death" is the book that addresses this in depth.

1. That's beside the point I'm making. 2. They protested in China too over lockdowns, which is almost an unheard of thing. But again, beside the point. 3. Why ? Even if you think the lockdowns were overdone, there is still a mental health impact. It even buttresses your case if those lockdowns *were overdone. 4. Who is trying to achieve population control ? And by that do you mean population levels ? 5. It's also possible to scare your people in order to convince them to do something that you think is right. 6. Threat levels are not what I'm talking about. 7. I'd like to defend it but you don't seem to get what I mean by impacts. I'm not talking about 'threat' 'risk' and such, which you assess before the impact is known I'm talking about what happened to *us ... after the fact. Looking back. And you even agree that the government did harm, in the end.

Huh ? 18th century and ancient democracies were a better model, and our current practice needs to reintegrate aspects of those. The same factors that streamline consumer society have been applied to democracy and it's not working anymore.

Why are the little girls wearing perverted costumes? 🤔

Honestly, I don't think you understand what I'm saying.