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Here's one for oftenwrong: "90% of all Teslas ever built are still on the road. The other 10% made it home."

Another one in the weeds too. And I suppose you're going to tell me the BC Liberals are left wing libbies too. Yeah, the used the name to pull votes from the social democrats, tell us all the socialist things they did once Hitler got in and there was no more need to worry about being re-elected. Tell me the socialists, especially the communists weren't his sworn enemy. Totalitarian can be on either side of the political spectrum. You gonna claim Franco and Mussolini were socialists too?

You're just doubling down and repeating your reason to object. You can't eat enough LEDs to harm yourself. Just don't even look at what's in a smoke detector. And I live in a forestry province in a town where that's pretty much THE only thing here. Why in hell would I ever support flimsy roll all over the place plastic bags? Why they're already conning us with handle-breaks-off "recycler" shopping backs. The thread is titles Ontario needs to invest in EVs, which it does or it will miss out on it's whole auto sector. China's pounding on the door to deliver them, Elon's lobbying to bring Chinese Teslas, the Vietnamese are already here. We've got everything we need to produce them from ore to assembly lines to the skilled workers to do it

And arsenic isn't a metal.... like I said, give us a practical, legitimate reason. Not ones along the lines of 'it would take too many trees cut down to bring electricity to rural America' and 'we'd need to send armies halfway around the world to overthrow Sheiks and Princes, thousands would die, we'd need to pay for all the set up, transport and refining of that oil/ We should just keep running our battleships on our own supply of coal'

You are the poster boy for the stereotype of An American I.diot. Wilfully uneducated, insular, isolationist, easily duped and never ventured beyond your bedroom door at your Mom's house. Unable to demonstrate logic nor critical thinking whatsoever. Let's just pick your last post to shreds here: DemoNazis - you are always critical of Democrats for being too leftist, but Nazis are the definition of right wing extremism. If you don't know that basic fact, you're wilfully refusing to learn dick shit. Nothing But Lies - tell us about even one. Gasoline prices - are set by the very Free Market you are beholden too, and the usual knee-jerk response that they should cut taxes to 'help' you means reducing the only part of gasoline prices that actually benefits the public as a whole to spare your personal pocket book. (See stereotype of An American I.diot above). Prices for gasoline rose everywhere, therefore one political party in only one of almost 200 countries could not possibly have caused them to. Runaway Inflation - which is happening all over the World (see: therefore one political party in only one of almost 200 countries could not possibly have caused that) Tax increase on the Poor - do you know what a tax is? It is definitely NOT the price the seller places on their goods. Obviously you're one of those MAGA dupes that doesn't even grasp what the rest of the world thought (and some still do) made America 'great' and thast was progress. To innovate, to commit to what was right for all humanity, to end discrimination and disadvantages, as JFK said "to do it because it was hard".

No No! All of YOU are wrong! (reason does his Curly impression again)

Oh FFS learn some chemistry. Heavy means dense and toxic. LEAD in your current car battery is a toxic heavy metal. Mercury in ancient button batteries was a toxic heavy metal. Chrome on an old bumper is a heavy metal. Lithium is the lightest metal there is and probably someone you know swallows it every day, Cobalt you don't grind up and breathe particles every day, you take minor precautions handling it every day, but you body requires some to function. As with the copper. As for LEDs what 'heavy metal' is used in those? In any meaningful quantity that could be recycled if even possible. Stop reaching for straws to grasp, toss us a legit reason not to go EV, remembering that cost and some inconvenience isn't the major concern of most of us. Smart cars would outsell F150s if it was.

No it doesn't.

But whatabout? But whatabout? But whatabout?

And you do that by governing, not by engaging in lies, petty revenge and sheer obstructionism. Things paramount in your perverted definition of patriotism.

Using the labour practices in the Congo as an argument is weak as hell. Buy cobalt somewhere else, like Ontario. I'm sure if Pinochet was still around they'd use that because copper is used in EVs too. The hypocrisy arises when many of the same crowd belittle those opposed to running pipelines full of actually toxic diluent and bitumen across the wilderness. The object is to reduce CO2 emissions and BEVs and fuel cells are the only way to do that if you want to keep private vehicles and the entire auto industry.

You don't run an EV flat dead, just like you don't run out your gas tank until the car stops dead. And i have no idea where you live but you take CFL dogturd lights to the recycle shed like you do the old tube ones these days. Do you understand that rare earths mean they're not as common as iron or aluminum, not precious like bloody emeralds or diamonds? There's rarer and actually more precious metals in the catalytic converter of your car. And what makes you think germanium and lithium are toxic? Better get rid of your computer then. As I pointed out many times, quit thinking bumps in the road are impenetrable roadblocks that prevent anyone from going forward.

Yet I hear everyday I hear people claim they bought a new anvil from China online and they shipped it to Dease Lake, overnight absolutely free! I did the amazon prime thing for the free shipping, and only discovered later the TV part came with it. Now it's free or faster shipping on some items... from what I remember as a store owner, I did see GST on shipping sometimes. And if I couldn't get an item from a wholesaler, I had to pay $10.70 instead of $10, mark that up and collect and remit PST on the new price.... they double taxed.

You're right in that in this day of merciless bean counters in charge, there'll be a cost invented with all benefits ignored. Just as how banks pulled off charging for machines that get no wages or benefits. Ignore any new business charging stations bring in, concentrate only on the cost.... But for everday home use... you're sleeping for 8 hours a day. That will charge anything at 110V enough for the next days use. And the 240V chargers aren't that expensive and sometimes included in the price of you EV. Remember, tomorrow morning you have to go to work and back, not drive the family to WallyWorld. The person who drives more than 30Km to do that isn't typical., he's the oddball.

A paranoid imagination seems to be a requirement for GOP candidates.

Well when Timmies and McDs clue into the writing on the wall and put fast chargers in their lots, you should be able to do that top up charge while you grab a donut & coffee.... (And the guys idling in the drive thrus will be whining the EV owners are getting something free by going inside, and they're not)

You never heard stories about them wanting GST/PST remittances from yard sales and swap meets decades ago? You're supposed to remit, but they don't push it because it's too hard to enforce. Once you go online, there's an electronic trail and all they need to do is force the websites to collect it for them. Easy pickings, you should have seen it coming. I used to order vape pods online, but now they have to collect PST for BC even though they're not IN BC, GST, tobacco taxes and restrict what flavours people from each province can buy. Can't even smoke menthols anymore. Tack oin top of that there's PST/GST/nicotine tax on quit smoking aids, and those have to be hidden from view too 'to protect children'. We do have many stupid rules, so stupid some are counter-productive.

Like accusations that you can't point out even a single incidence of?

A 6yr old gets hold of a loaded gun, and this guy thinks gun control is somehow to blame? Told you he's clinically insane.

No, you must've gone to a different school than the rest of the real world.

You'll still be able to buy a Peterbilt. Then you can really own the greenies when you go to Superstore. You can hog 4 parking spots while you're at it. And don't forget crummies. They'll still make those if you have a big family.

So after 15 rounds of grovelling and kowtowing to the lunatic fringe and the direct intervention of the Traitor In Charge, the GOP proves that even an ugly political slut can get their way if they suck hard enough,

The CPC and Green leadership conventions were drops in a bucket compared to the GOP Gong Show. The USA does do everything better, especially at making themselves look foolish.

If you squeeze your eyes and clamp your mid down hard enough and simply refuse to recognize the difference between a fetus and a living, breathing human being you can justify that stance.

But... but... but... they say as they respond on their Chinese made laptop, that sits on the desk plugged in and never moves, totally forgetting about the lithium battery. Sort of similar to how the other side sometimes forces bans on the use of plastic bags and straws rather than production and distribution, so they're dumped in the landfill in massive unused blocks. Reminds me of what I used to accuse the wife of: she didn't want the job done right, she demanded any job done right now.