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To put C19 into perspective, there's a Johns Hopkins study that estimates that 250,000-440,000 people in the US are killed every year by medical mistakes: https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/22/medical-errors-third-leading-cause-of-death-in-america.html In 2020 C19 supposedly killed 600,000 people in the US, but we all know that people lie about those numbers for their own reasons. For example, the Governor of New York even got busted for telling his people to fudge the numbers. No matter what number you hear, guaranteed it's false. What you need to look at is the view from 100,000 feet, and ignore the POV that the liberal media is trying tp push on you. Know this: There are 330M people in the US, and due to old age, heart disease, obesity, cancer, etc, a lot of them are really close to death. Leading causes of death in the US: There are 1.7M people who die in the US every year from heart disease, cancer, chronic respiratory diseases, stokes, Alzheimer's and diabetes. Drs who hate Trump, and are willing to lie like Dr Ford, had ample opportunity to use C19 as the cause of death for up 1.7M people. The covid death stats even point out that the vast majority of people who died from C19 were elderly and had one or more of those diseases. C19 didn't "kill" all 600K of those people, the vast majority of them were already walking on the edge of their graves and covid gave them a nudge. Ignore the anecdotes about "This healthy guy died of C19", because the flu does that every year. Almost 400 children die of the flu in the US every year, and that number last year was less than half the normal amount. Between 1,000-2,000 children died in the swine flu year, when Obama was Prez, and there were no lockdowns, no school closures. Control? Power? To sell vaccines? To make people dependant on the government, instead of capitalist economies? Lots of reasons. Gov Cuomo got busted for lying about C19 deaths, and he received an Emmy for his C19 bullshit that he never had to give back. Time will tell that C19 indebted us to China bigtime, and that our leftists governments love to turn our citizens into their dependants. Just remember that at the beginning of C19 it was leftists in the US that were saying "Ride the subway like normal, go eat in restaurants, go to Chinatown and hug lots of people in massive crowds, don't wear masks, don't block travel from China, travel bans against China are racist", etc. Our own government did absolutely nothing about C19 until March 16th. That was the very first day that they took actual, physical action. It was pathetic. Leftist media in both countries promotes all of those people as C19 heroes, while they promoted Trump as a drastic failure. He was the only one who actually 'fought' covid in January of 2020. Look it up. Literally everything that our liberal media wants us to believe about covid is a complete farce, but the stupid people who consume that shit will never have the ability to think for themselves. The only thing that the leftists really fought was HCQ, and they fought it tooth and nail, like it was Ebola. If you ever wonder how hard leftists could have fought covid back in January and February of 2020, look at how they fought HCQ. They were frothing at the mouth.

Look, some Argusses at the beach;

the unvaccinated's right to participate fully in society is not superseded by the desire of others that they be vaccinated in order to participate in society the best way to protect the vulnerable is not to punish the unvaccinated, those who are vaccinated have no right to force others to also get vaccinated

Trudeau caused problems for Canadians by encouraging our unorthodox approach to mixing and blending vaccines. Trudeau is a rich boy who wants to change the world and is using Canada as his sandbox. He likes what the pandemic is doing to this country in some ways, ans said so. He wouldnt mind if it continues even longer. Get it?

STFU about Russians already, it’s complete nonsense. You’re a McCarthyite red baiting lunatic now. Get professional help.

Here's one. A boots on the ground nurse. Click the arrow:

The Branch Covidians have gone completely insane now. The vaccine is their sacrament, akin to communion. If you don’t subscribe, they fabricate the reasons why you won’t, based on their own assumptions and prejudices. They’re truly a disgusting group of people. I’m fully vaccinated, but I respect and acknowledge the RIGHT of people to control their own body. These little tin pot dictators are consumed with erasing decades and in some cases hundreds of years of hard fought guaranteed rights and freedoms. It’s so short sighted and completely selfish and disgusting.

Yes. Masks, vaccine passports, restrictions on movement, and restrictions yet to be seen, probably in the name of climate change, will be with us forever if we don’t push back. I don’t trust government and have many good historic reasons not to trust government. I got the jab along with everyone eligible in my family. We’re past the point of herd immunity. Further restrictions are an unjustifiable removal of liberty and destructive to businesses and mental health. That’s enough now.

Inflation is a serious problem in the country. Only thanks to ... sorry, because of it MP salary had to be near-doubled in two decades only inflation and nothing to with enrichment, really! So, at what rate should Canadians pensions and other public payments be indexed? One can examine the longread. Why though? We have a very good method that proved so well for our esteemed leaders (85% automatic raise in two decades) and so why not for a regular Canadian? That's right, the same formula used for annual raises of MPs, ministers and judges applied to our age pensions; veterans pensions, benefits; tax brackets and so on. Imagine in two decades pension near doubled and through no fault of ours, just inflation. Non taxable amount went up 85% (from around 15K to 27). Not bad, eh? Great idea, right? And why, why haven't we thought about it before? We are all together and all Canadians after all, so obvious, and let's get down to it no time wasted. So, how about "Real Equitability Act": no public service cost or tax; no compensation paid to a public figure or employee (unless set in collective bargaining, for a member) can increase more than indexation of pensions and benefits of the citizens. So which party wants to take the lead in this very worthy, highly equitable and in great Canadian spirit of togetherness undertaking? Did we hear anyone? Hello? Anybody there?

Yeah, but your Rights? What importance do they have? Don't you want to feel safe and secure, at home, with no work, no relationships, no gym, no celebration like every sane person?

What’s sad about that is about 80% of people in the video agreed. They all had nice hair though. Argus has nothing in common with that.

I see... lol Well you were starting to sound like anti-vaxers are the untermensche, is all. If the vaccines work, they provide herd immunity. That means even if there are transmissions after mass vaccination, there’s not going to be an outbreak. Hospitals will not be overloaded. People who are very old or sick will still die of these things no matter what we do. Maybe that’s why the government hasnt addressed that problem yet, they figure it doesnt matter, the old folks will still die anyway. Then don’t hold those deaths over me, don’t use those numbers to tell me and my kids we are not allowed outdoors, and we’ve got to take their freaky drugs that dont even seem to work very good. You go get your boosters and wear a mask. I’ma go outside for a run.

You’re a traitor, and a fascist. Get fully vaccinated so that you have nothing to worry about. And then please, for everyone’s sake, STFU. Once fully vaccinated you have a greater chance of being killed in a car accident than dying from covid. Your whole traitor shtick is so disgusting and anti-Canadian. STFU you tin pot dictator fascist wannabe POS.

Being arrogant doesn't make you a Nazi.

To paraphrase yourself: ”Now I get how the nazi mentality could get into a whole society.”

It's not "shit scared", it's "I don't want the experimental jab ecause I'm not scared of covid." We all know who the shit-scared Karens of the last 1.5 years were...

No. The biggest scare from C19 is that it is the perfect weapon for governments to get rid of dissidents (like the insurgents from Jan 6). What if one of Putin's or Kim Jung Un's doctors say to a peon: "Although you're asymptomatic, our test shows that you are carrying C19 - you have to go to a quarantine center (where people are expected to die in large numbers)."

Maybe when the IOC gets its costs under control. Now it just seems like a chance to blow billions of dollars.

Yea I think this neatly summates Justine's motivations in just one sentence. He's such a narcissist that he wants a "reset." This from a dude whom had a previous job of being a drama teacher - he's all about the drama and he is enough of a narcissist to manipulate this event to shape the political future of this country. Our political and medical elites could of used this viral threat to DEMAND that our population gets healthier. But no, that doesn't increase our reliance on governments, and in today's globalist agenda, we can't have people being responsible for themselves can we? No, we need sheoples that depend on the State, depend on nefarious, supercilious narcissist like the Pontificator from Papineau. Aside: It seems that Influenza has almost disappeared: Weekly Influenza reports 2019-2020 Influenza weekly reports 2020-21 season Let me say again since it bears repeating: DURING INFLUENZA SEASON THERE HAS BEEN NO EVIDENCE OF COMMUNITY CIRCULATION OF INFLUENZA.

That the Minister of Agriculture is not from the west is just another in a long line of BS insults from POTawa. 70% of the cattle industry in this pretend country is in Alberta for example and as for grain... just look west.

He's morbidly obese. Can you say "co-determinant?" How about "heart attack?"

Absolutely, here is 20 k for your troubles, infact give every Canadian that wants or has had the shot gets 20,000 grand, shit it is only going to cost 780 bil dollars....Justin will be a hero, and he'll have added more than a trillion dollars to our debt...shit i bet we could not vaccine them fast enough. Money makes the world go round baby.....It would be every Canadians wet dream , free government money.... Don't worry they'll just print more, interest rates are low right or so Justin says and he is the lefts demi god . Or maybe we just say don't want to get the shot, fine don't get it, but there should be some consequences, maybe no life insurance coverage or much higher rates, same for medical coverage, constant daily mandatory testing, I'm sure the government can think of all kinds of ways to make life difficult or should i say inconvenient, i mean they are good at that atleast...Not sure where the law starts or ends with the consequences part... but then again new laws are made every day. Yes I'm concerned, or scared as some people put it, i just retired, and i want to enjoy my new freedom a little bit , so yes i caved and went and got a shot, as did the rest of my family, and if i go blind or my Johnston drops off, that would be the price i pay to live...we all have choices to make in our lives, but what we do not have a right to do is risk others lives in the process, hence the consequences or motivator actions., and if you can live with that, I'm good, in the end i hope we are all at the finish line at the same time, and I'm hoping to still have my Johnston when i get there.

Did you honestly not hear the CDC admitting they were wrong about how effective the vaccines were at preventing infection and stopping the spread? We're in luck though although more contagious the variant isn't that fatal. They want you masked up because of the contagion factor but they don't want to tell you you're in no real danger. Not even flu levels. You don't have a clue what the current science is yet you want to strut about like the guy with all the knowledge. It's more or less like this currently. Try to catch up: However this idea there's good news because the vaccinated aren't getting that ill is sleight of hand. You can see the way it's done clearly here: But back in may before the variant scare this below was happening according to the hidden CDC report the Washington Post revealed yesterday. So vaccinated people have been getting infected even before the variant and the CDC knew about it. The information is coming out now and the guys that hid the data would like to use it to get the lockdowns going again soon. Curiously enough though even though this variant is more contagious it's not killing so many people - vaccinated or unvaccinated. So what's with the sudden need for lockdowns?

Well not exactly. I’m suggesting that there’s a big movement well underway to shut down the pre-pandemic way of life, absolutely. I don’t know whether C-19 was intentionally released, but I do know that it provides the pretext for shutting down and/or controlling how most people prefer to live. The precedent is set. You can be made to stay home except for essential trips indefinitely. You can be kept apart from people who aren’t members of your household. Soon, you may require a passport containing your health information in order to conduct essential activities. If you don’t think these tactics can be used for reasons beyond preventing a likelihood of serious illness or death... Well, we’re already being convinced to continue to require masks of vaccinated people, restrict their travel, and limit the number of people who can congregate. The climate change scare is well underway and the forest fires are proof enough for many in government.

Exactly. Vaccines are widely available. If somebody doesn’t want to get it, it effects me in no way as I’ve been fully vaccinated. In fact, it’s actually been vaccinated people spreading the virus to the unvaccinated. Regardless, at some point, personal responsibility must take over our policy. People have the information they need, if they chose not to be vaccinated, that’s on them. It’s time to open things up and live life again.

Intelligent people who are experts in immunology and still practicing. There’s nothing conspiratorial about demanding more be done to protect elderly in LTC facilities. Or for demanding to build covid clinics to take pressure off ER’s. Stop giving money to keep people home, use it to build support infrastructure instead. But no... carry on masking and closing down whatever some government beaurocrat decides is non essential. Just that alone. Sorry, no russian bots, its boring old stupidity, incompetence and the usual manipulations.

Yes, the Russians are doing their best to promote vaccine hesitancy in order to encourage doubt in western governments. They're pumping out all kinds of disinformation every day to lure the gullible into believing... the stuff you're believing.

Remember their lies and cover up that certain drugs and therapy were effective. As if there is no such thing as drug therapy. But if you’re just another public office worker Joe Bob, couldn’t know. Those are usually the worst kind, really proving that adage “a little knowledge is dangerous”. There always was a certain population of vaccine fanatics. Usually the most judgemental, anal retentive clean freaks you’ll ever know. Then there are those with a massive fear of death. They live in utter denial of reality. Stay in your cave underground, little man. Don’t bother me. I’ma go outside...

In America the PTB are getting afraid of the upcoming midterms. They need another rigged election stat. Time to scare the world again. "Oh wait...did we say we could prevent the disease and it's spread? Yeah...not so much. We're going to need you all locked in your houses and drop-box voting again by 2022."

Those medical professionals will all fall in line for the most part, responding to a message that there is a terrible pandemic outbreak. Yet seems they have no playbook for it. They do not conspire, question is who is controlling the messaging. Is the messaging correct, or is it being exaggerated. And if so, is it deliberate. You cannot convince me there are no powerful interests who want to take advantage of the moment for their interests. Not after what trudeau said. Normally I would write Mr. Trudeau, but he has sunk too low in my opinion to garner it anymore.

I know a guy who went and got his first shot of pfizer. When he went back and asked for a second shot (“please sir, can I have some more?”) they told him sure, step right up, step right up. Then they got some other jungle juice outta the fridge and he said hey wait, shouldn’t I get the same stuff, doc? Don’t worry, it’s totally safe, he said. That’s when I got the fuck out of there.

It’s not it at all. Why do a considerable number of health care workers hold the same opinion? It’s like that. Am I scared of the vaccine? No. Look how many got it. I object to their ability to take more shortcuts especially with new technology. And because of that I object to making it mandatory. I don’t have enough confidence they know what they are doing. They being political leaders. The health and safety rules for mass innoculation are there for a reason. To prevent deadly effects from medications themselves. As long as we protect all those who might need hospitalization by giving them vaccine, we have solved the main problem. The government has no authority over us for anything more than that.

But hey, all about “me, me, me”. All you fucking people are selfish, shit filled rabbits. I like how people go smugly talk about how much they care. Maybe give some more of that charity money at Christmas, make you feel all better.

Which community? I can show many ways health and wellbeing were not provided, even unto the elderly who were most at risk. Never did nothin to take the pressure off overloaded ER’s. Just stay home.

I am curious what is your supporting argument for this action? There are a few, which one holds the most ground.

Just as well because there is a good chance you will get it. https://www.cbc.ca/news/health/why-delta-variant-spreads-fast-covid-1.6120982

I'm on the fence on this. I wonder what kind of consequences there are going to be if I don't take the jab. Apart from the obvious one of getting the virus but I'm more interested in how sidelined would you be pushed if you don't get the jab. You can forget about traveling abroad? Fine by me. I have done enough of that already in the 90s when it was still worth it. Can't go to restaurants and bars? Couldn't care less. Can't go to a grocery store to buy food? That would be something unbearable but legally couldn't happen, could it?

There’s simply no good reason for government-imposed restrictions on freedom in Canada to fight Covid-19 anymore. None.