The Climate Crisis is a global scam

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Didn't get it, huh?

No. Equating those who dont buy the whole climate excuse for trashing the economy, with "flat earthers" is irrelevant and childish.

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, John Stone said:

For a political hack, the easiest way to solve a problem is to deny that it exists. 

 

 

Well that certainly worked for Justin Trudeau supporters didn't it   

Somewhat of a side note, have you actually ever met a flat earther? I mean I hear they exist, and every once in awhile you'll see somebody on the internet making claims or doing a stupid video but I have to wonder if they're not just doing that for the LOLs. I feel like we're constantly talking about this group of people but I'm not sure there are more than maybe like seven people who have mental health issues who actually believe this and the rest of it is this weird meme that has taken on a life of its own   

[robosmith]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Well this was completely irrelevant. 

Perhaps you can show proof that mad-made climate change is a crisis worth crapping on the global economy for?

Meanwhile Trump is crapping on the global economy with his WAR and you defend that, not understanding that the use of renewable energy would DEPRIVE IRAN of THEIR POWER. 🤮

AKA you're an IGNORAMUS as USUAL.

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Legato said:

Please show us these "risks" that have completed the journey to become actualities..

Pay attention to hurricanes that rapidly grow to category 4-5 as they cross 100 degree ocean temperatures in our Gulf of Mexico coast. There have been at least a couple and will be more as the ocean temperature gets HOTTER.

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Reg Volk said:

Why is it that the Left always chooses to believe in the dumbest stuff, and are always so easily duped?

^Pure IGNORANT PROJECTION.

You find one guy who says what YOU WANT TO HEAR, and jump on it like a FOOL while ignoring the VAST MAJORITY who say the OPPOSITE.

I posted the DATA which proves YOUR FOOL WRONG.

[Deluge]

12 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Meanwhile Trump is crapping on the global economy with his WAR and you defend that, not understanding that the use of renewable energy would DEPRIVE IRAN of THEIR POWER. 🤮

AKA you're an IGNORAMUS as USUAL.

You don't give a shit about the economy, robomarx, you just want Trump taken down. 

[Deluge]

9 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Pay attention to hurricanes that rapidly grow to category 4-5 as they cross 100 degree ocean temperatures in our Gulf of Mexico coast. There have been at least a couple and will be more as the ocean temperature gets HOTTER.

Where in the water is it 100 degrees, roboscare? 

[User]

4 hours ago, Hodad said:

Geologists overwhelmingly agree with the scientific consensus, but deniers do seem most likely to come from those looking down more than up. I don't think that it's a coincidence that this is the discipline most closely tied to mining and fossil fuel industries. 

Deniers of what exactly?

This is the dishonest argument you and others pushing this engage in, you lump it all together like it is an all or nothing argument, that it is OMG WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE IF WE DONT ACT NOW.

[Reg Volk]

[User]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Pay attention to hurricanes that rapidly grow to category 4-5 as they cross 100 degree ocean temperatures in our Gulf of Mexico coast. There have been at least a couple and will be more as the ocean temperature gets HOTTER.

This just shows what a mindless clown you are. This talking point has been debunked by even the damn Climate Crisis pushers. 

There is no evidence that since the 1900's there is any increase in hurricane intensity. 

They only cause more damage and cost more... because more people live and build in their path than ever before. 

 

Have hurricanes been getting worse?

Globally, the frequency of tropical cyclones has not increased over the past century, and in fact the number may have fallen - although long-term data is limited in some regions.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cz913gxlw3jo

[Michael Hardner]

5 hours ago, Legato said:

Please show us these "risks" that have completed the journey to become actualities..

Why should I have to?

5 hours ago, Legato said:

Please show us these "risks" that have completed the journey to become actualities..

Oops 

 

John Stone did it for me ... see water costs above, his example not mine.

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, Reg Volk said:

Why is it that the Left always chooses to believe ...

Margaret Thatcher, George Bush, Mulroney...

Your need to frame this as a culture war shows that you're not a serious poster.

Really, I am going to ask that you leave the site. It's not for you.

4 hours ago, Goddess said:

Sounds like a lot of could, maybe, might, possibly, potentially.....

Yet we've thrown trillions of dollars at this, with no measurable results.

No that's not right 

Climate change has been slowed.

[Michael Hardner]

4 hours ago, ironstone said:

We have heard lots of dire predictions for a very long time now.

Notable Climate Change Predictions That Didn't Come True

Over the past 50 years, various climate change predictions have been made, some of which have not materialized as expected. Here are a few notable examples:

Prediction	Original Year	Expected Outcome	Current Status
Global cooling trend	1970s	Significant global cooling due to aerosol emissions.	Global temperatures continued to rise.
Malthusian scenario on food shortages	1970s	Massive famine by the 2000s due to population growth.	Technological advancements increased food production.
Sea-level rise predictions	1980s	Up to 1 meter (100 cm) rise by 2000s.	Sea-level rise is occurring but is lower than predicted.
Ice-free Arctic summers	2000s	Arctic summers free of ice by 2013-2015.	Arctic ice extent remains, though declining.
Doom-and-gloom scenarios of coastal city flooding	1980s-2000s	Major cities like New York and Miami to be underwater.	Coastal flooding is a concern but not to the predicted extent.

None of this is cited.

So I suggest we ignore this post.

[Reg Volk]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Margaret Thatcher, George Bush, Mulroney...

Your need to frame this as a culture war shows that you're not a serious poster.

Really, I am going to ask that you leave the site. It's not for you.

No that's not right 

Climate change has been slowed.

Yes you've been asking me to leave since I joined.  I ask you to leave as you're not a serious poster.  You're a joke.  Just like the people still pushing this insane climate hoax.

[WestCanMan]

20 hours ago, Reg Volk said:

If you're still pumping this crap, you're dumber than a rock.

Leftists are so unaware of human history that they never heard of the climate scam before. 

Shaman started saying: "If you don't let me boink your daughters then [the crops will fail, the caribou won't come back, etc] and we will all die" ten thousand years ago, and "if the scam ain't broke, don't fix it."

Can you imagine the panic among leftists a few thousand years ago, when the shaman were saying "The ice over Boston is only a mile thick! We're all gonna die if that all melts! I need to boink your daughters faster!"?

Don't ask me how they knew about Boston though. It's one of life's great mysteries 🤣

[Legato]

17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Why should I have to?

Oops 

 

John Stone did it for me ... see water costs above, his example not mine.

Risks, your term, back it up.

Water costs. You mean groundwater over extractions, mans greed, or water loss due to fracking, oops not climate.

 

[LinkSoul60]

This topic reminds me of the circus.  Every time climate change is mentioned the clowns come out to do their 10 second comedy show of denial....  

Been talked about too many times... Climate change is unequivocal and estimated to cost Canadian's ~$700 annually and American's in the most affected areas ~$1,300 annually, with national average ~$400- $900 annually through higher home insurance from damaged/lost housing, higher energy costs to heat and cool homes, higher food costs from lost/damaged crops, higher health care costs from heat and poor air quality, and reduced labor productivity. 

[ironstone]

17 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

None of this is cited.

So I suggest we ignore this post.

Here are some. https://www.cato.org/commentary/global-warming-apocalypses-didnt-happen

Still waiting for you to back up your claim about Juno News btw 😉

[Goddess]

22 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Why should I have to?

Because you're the one who wants everybody pooping their pants over it and shoveling trillions of dollars at it.

23 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Climate change has been slowed.

Almost everything I've read says there has been no real measurable change, in spite of shoveling money at it.

21 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

None of this is cited.

So I suggest we ignore this post.

You don't provide any cite for your above statement, and suggest we ignore posts with no cites.

Just sayin'.

 

[Legato]

8 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

This topic reminds me of the circus.  Every time climate change is mentioned the clowns come out to do their 10 second comedy show of denial....  

Been talked about too many times... Climate change is unequivocal and estimated to cost Canadian's ~$700 annually and American's in the most affected areas ~$1,300 annually, with national average ~$400- $900 annually through higher home insurance from damaged/lost housing, higher energy costs to heat and cool homes, higher food costs from lost/damaged crops, higher health care costs from heat and poor air quality, and reduced labor productivity. 

and the other clowns come out to give us all a laugh with the knee jerks, flailing arms and gnashing of teeth.

[LinkSoul60]

26 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Leftists are so unaware of human history that they never heard of the climate scam before. 

Shaman started saying: "If you don't let me boink your daughters then [the crops will fail, the caribou won't come back, etc] and we will all die" ten thousand years ago, and "if the scam ain't broke, don't fix it."

Can you imagine the panic among leftists a few thousand years ago, when the shaman were saying "The ice over Boston is only a mile thick! We're all gonna die if that all melts! I need to boink your daughters faster!"?

Don't ask me how they knew about Boston though. It's one of life's great mysteries 🤣

You are truly one of the most stunned SOB's I've ever seen (listened to).... Congrats.

Just now, Legato said:

and the other clowns come out to give us all a laugh with the knee jerks, flailing arms and gnashing of teeth.

Little Sally The Clown needs to get her word in....  

[Michael Hardner]

37 minutes ago, Reg Volk said:

   I ask you to leave as you're not a serious poster.   

Say Reggie, where did you get that idea 😂

[Michael Hardner]

22 minutes ago, Legato said:

1. Risks, your term, back it up.

2. Water costs. You mean groundwater over extractions, mans greed, or water loss due to fracking, oops not climate.

 

1. Back up that it's a risk? Do I really need to? It's obvious the temperatures are increasing.  Even if you don't think carbon is 100% the cause, as most scientists and people do, then something is happening. And obviously negative effects could be in store.  That's the back-up.

2. John Stone provided the example. You would have to ask him where he got it. But that's an example of a risk anyway. And an example, according to him, of an impact that's happening now. 

You can even be a climate change denier and accept that there's a risk of some kind, and that there is something happening.

[Michael Hardner]

23 minutes ago, ironstone said:

 

Still waiting for you to back up your claim about Juno News btw 😉

I didn't make a claim about Juno. I made a claim about true North. When I went to look for it it had shut down or something.

 

CATO is a privately owned think tank, and I don't trust their information.  They're owned by an explicitly anti-government agency that has its hands in the oil industry.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koch_family

[Michael Hardner]

22 minutes ago, Goddess said:

1. Because you're the one who wants everybody pooping their pants over it and shoveling trillions of dollars at it.

2. Almost everything I've read says there has been no real measurable change, in spite of shoveling money at it.

3. You don't provide any cite for your above statement, and suggest we ignore posts with no cites.

 

 

1. No, I don't want people to be scared. I'm only asking for a risk assessment, for people to acknowledge that there's a risk. And you don't have to show risks have happened in order to look at them.  

We didn't have a nuclear war with the Soviet Union, but we regarded it as a risk and we prepared for the possibility. 

2. Almost? What have you read that says there has been some mitigation or slowing? That might be the real information right there. 

3. No, I didn't. I could find one, with some effort, that is well presented and easy to follow.  And you are nice to me sometimes. So I considered this possibility that maybe you would want to engage with me on this topic. I thought about it ,you see. 

But I want to know first what's in it for me? 

If I find you a real site that explains how climate change has been slowed, will you acknowledge that?  Will you pick that up and put it with the opinions that you already have?  Because oftentimes I put a lot of effort... Like say 15, 20 or 30 minutes... Into making a case and providing some points for something. And the person just dismisses them. 

I don't go to far out environmental sites or politically based sites, just science. In other words, academics who are paid to be as accurate as possible. They're also paid and expected to correct themselves when they're proven wrong. And the good ones do. 

So I could go out and find something for you. That I'm afraid that you wouldn't believe it and I would have wasted my time. 

So I didn't provide a cite.  What do you think?