The Climate Crisis is a global scam

[Reg Volk]

If you're still pumping this crap, you're dumber than a rock.  Even evil doom goblin Greta has moved on to hating Jews as she knows this scam is dead.  Now all that remains is jailing those who benefited from this massive hoax.  As soon as possible. 

[robosmith]

2 hours ago, Reg Volk said:

If you're still pumping this crap, you're dumber than a rock.  Even evil doom goblin Greta has moved on to hating Jews as she knows this scam is dead.  Now all that remains is jailing those who benefited from this massive hoax.  As soon as possible. 

Professor Ian Plimer is not even a climatologist. Rebuttal Links for ALL his points:

Climate Misinformation by Source: Ian Plimer

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Favourite climate myths by Ian Plimer

Below are many of the climate myths used by Ian Plimer plus how often each myth has been used.

Climate myths by Plimer	What the Science Says	Usage
"CO2 is plant food"	The effects of enhanced CO2 on terrestrial plants are variable and complex and dependent on numerous factors	4
"Human CO2 is a tiny % of CO2 emissions"	The natural cycle adds and removes CO2 to keep a balance; humans add extra CO2 without removing any.	3
"Models are unreliable"	Models successfully reproduce temperatures since 1900 globally, by land, in the air and the ocean.	2
"It's cooling"	All the indicators show that global warming is still happening.	2
"CO2 limits will harm the economy"	The benefits of a price on carbon outweigh the costs several times over.	2
"Global warming stopped in 1998, 1995, 2002, 2007, 2010, ????"	Global temperature is still rising and 2010 was the hottest recorded.	2
"Water vapor is the most powerful greenhouse gas"	Rising CO2 increases atmospheric water vapor, which makes global warming much worse.	2
"Climate's changed before"	Climate reacts to whatever forces it to change at the time; humans are now the dominant forcing.	2
"CO2 is not a pollutant"	Through its impacts on the climate, CO2 presents a danger to public health and welfare, and thus qualifies as an air pollutant	2
"It hasn't warmed since 1998"	Every part of the Earth's climate system has continued warming since 1998, with 2015 shattering temperature records.	1
"There is no consensus"	97% of climate experts agree humans are causing global warming.	1
"It's the sun"	In the last 35 years of global warming, sun and climate have been going in opposite directions	1
"Volcanoes emit more CO2 than humans"	Humans emit 100 times more CO2 than volcanoes.	1
"It's not bad"	Negative impacts of global warming on agriculture, health & environment far outweigh any positives.	1
"We're coming out of the Little Ice Age"	Scientists have determined that the factors which caused the Little Ice Age cooling are not currently causing global warming.	1
"CO2 was higher in the past"	Climate has changed along with CO2 levels through geological time.	1
"It's not us"	Multiple sets of independent observations find a human fingerprint on climate change.	1
"Ocean acidification isn't serious"	Ocean acidification threatens entire marine food chains.	1
"It's a natural cycle"	No known natural forcing fits the fingerprints of observed warming except anthropogenic greenhouse gases.	1
"IPCC ‘disappeared’ the Medieval Warm Period"	The IPCC simply updated their temperature history graphs to show the best data available at the time.	1
"Positive feedback means runaway warming"	Positive feedback won't lead to runaway warming; diminishing returns on feedback cycles limit the amplification.	1
"It warmed just as fast in 1860-1880 and 1910-1940"	The warming trend over 1970 to 2001 is greater than warming from both 1860 to 1880 and 1910 to 1940.	1
"Increasing CO2 has little to no effect"	The strong CO2 effect has been observed by many different measurements.

 

 

[Reg Volk]

28 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Professor Ian Plimer is not even a climatologist.

 

 

Good grief Robo.  The term "climatologist" is totally made up.  Man made climate change is a total hoax.

Edited March 9 by Reg Volk

[robosmith]

8 minutes ago, Reg Volk said:

Good grief Robo.  The term "climatologist" is totally made up.  Man made climate change is a total hoax.

You just keep demonstrating your IGNORANCE every time you post.

A climatologist is (usually) a PhD degreed person who studies climatology. So simple even you can't understand that there are PhD degrees in the subject. LMAO

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PhD in Climatology and Climate Science programs are offered globally, with top U.S. institutions including Harvard, MIT, Stanford, and Scripps Institution of Oceanography. These programs focus on climate dynamics, modeling, and atmospheric sciences, with opportunities at U.S. schools like U Albany, Michigan, and Delaware, as well as European options. 

Dunning-Kruger would be proud of you confirming their science. LMAO

Of course you don't know what that means.

[Michael Hardner]

29 minutes ago, robosmith said:

Professor Ian Plimer is not even a climatologist. Rebuttal Links for ALL his points:

Climate Misinformation by Source: Ian Plimer

 

 

Wow... Some of those are so old.

Uncited YouTube videos ... tsk tsk

And what is it about GEOLOGISTS?!

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Wow... Some of those are so old.

Uncited YouTube videos ... tsk tsk

And what is it about GEOLOGISTS?!

The last time we discussed evidence I asked you for any actual scientific documents or papers demonstrating that climate change was a crisis or that anything that we could do in Canada would make a substantial difference and what that difference would be

Magically instantly all of a sudden had me on ignore again rather than answer the question 😁😂😂😂

Climate change happens every day, has since the beginning of the planet, but the idea that it's a crisis or there's anything that we can do in Canada to reduce it in a meaningful fashion is a complete hoax.

 

Oh whats that? I'm on ignore again? Golly imagine that, shucks what timing  LOLOL

[John Stone]

12 hours ago, Reg Volk said:

If you're still pumping this crap, you're dumber than a rock.  Even evil doom goblin Greta has moved on to hating Jews as she knows this scam is dead.  Now all that remains is jailing those who benefited from this massive hoax.  As soon as possible. 

So called, anti-scientific beliefs in a flat Earth are promoted by a number of organizations and individuals. The claims of modern  flat earth proponents are not based on scientific knowledge and are contrary to over two millennia of scientific consensus base on multiple confirming lines of evidence that the Earth is roughly spherical. 

Flat Earth beliefs are classified by experts in physics as a form of science denial. 

Publishing reams of data supporting the belief that the planet is indeed spherical would be pointless. 

 

For a political hack, the easiest way to solve a problem is to deny that it exists. 

 

 

[Nationalist]

22 minutes ago, John Stone said:

So called, anti-scientific beliefs in a flat Earth are promoted by a number of organizations and individuals. The claims of modern  flat earth proponents are not based on scientific knowledge and are contrary to over two millennia of scientific consensus base on multiple confirming lines of evidence that the Earth is roughly spherical. 

Flat Earth beliefs are classified by experts in physics as a form of science denial. 

Publishing reams of data supporting the belief that the planet is indeed spherical would be pointless. 

 

For a political hack, the easiest way to solve a problem is to deny that it exists. 

 

 

Well this was completely irrelevant. 

Perhaps you can show proof that mad-made climate change is a crisis worth crapping on the global economy for?

[Michael Hardner]

38 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

 Perhaps you can show proof that mad-made climate change is a crisis worth crapping on the global economy for?

Doesn't have to be a crisis, only needs to be a risk.  POTENTIAL impacts aren't certain but they could be huge.

Any "crapping on the economy" equals single digit drag on GDP,  ie you're being hyperbolic.

 

[Hodad]

13 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Wow... Some of those are so old.

Uncited YouTube videos ... tsk tsk

And what is it about GEOLOGISTS?!

Geologists overwhelmingly agree with the scientific consensus, but deniers do seem most likely to come from those looking down more than up. I don't think that it's a coincidence that this is the discipline most closely tied to mining and fossil fuel industries. 

Edited March 9 by Hodad

[Barquentine]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Well this was completely irrelevant.

Didn't get it, huh?

[Legato]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Doesn't have to be a crisis, only needs to be a risk.  POTENTIAL impacts aren't certain but they could be huge.

Any "crapping on the economy" equals single digit drag on GDP,  ie you're being hyperbolic.

 

Please show us these "risks" that have completed the journey to become actualities..

[John Johnston]

Just now, Legato said:

Please show us these "risks" that have completed the journey to become actualities..

Step outside. 

[Legato]

Just now, John Johnston said:

Step outside. 

to do what?

 

[John Johnston]

Just now, Legato said:

to do what?

 

To witness climate change in all it's glory. This is not difficult. 

[Legato]

Just now, John Johnston said:

To witness climate change in all it's glory. This is not difficult. 

Which is?

[User]

1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said:

Doesn't have to be a crisis, only needs to be a risk.  POTENTIAL impacts aren't certain but they could be huge.

Any "crapping on the economy" equals single digit drag on GDP,  ie you're being hyperbolic.

 

We already discussed your downplaying the costs here. 

Single digits of GDP is A LOT. 

5 minutes ago, John Johnston said:

To witness climate change in all it's glory. This is not difficult. 

OK. Now what?

 

[Deluge]

12 hours ago, robosmith said:

Professor Ian Plimer is not even a climatologist.

And thank God for that. I think the world has seen enough bullshit from the climate cult. 

[Reg Volk]

Why is it that the Left always chooses to believe in the dumbest stuff, and are always so easily duped?

[John Stone]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Well this was completely irrelevant. 

Perhaps you can show proof that mad-made climate change is a crisis worth crapping on the global economy for?

So-called, Climate Change will crap on the global economy, not  the reverse. 

Ur correct tho, to call it a crisis is arguably a dramatic description  - crisis  signifying urgency? 

The global economy is just that - reliance on other Nations .......... for the sake of argument lets focus on domestic food security in terms of import and export. 

The U.S. is a major player in global food production - huge industry - worth about 200 billion - feeds the world, baby.  Agriculture depends on weather patterns and the all important access to fresh water. A recent study found intensifying climatic extremes, combined with disruptive human interventions (groundwater overextractions) are driving alarming water related agricultural costs. The cost of production and the cost to the domestic consumer is a direct relationship - think inflation.  Now project this inadequacy of fresh-water -security globally and the effects on those countries food security concerns, their exports and the effect on their economies. Ya think it could affect global food security and if it did, what would be the result - Four Horses of the Apocalypse, maybe?

Climate change is not a crisis - but it is insidious. 

Likely it will not have a dramatic effect on this gen - maybe the next - but def the following. 

Relax - it don't concern  U - old man! haha 

 

 

[Goddess]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Doesn't have to be a crisis, only needs to be a risk.  POTENTIAL impacts aren't certain but they could be huge.

Any "crapping on the economy" equals single digit drag on GDP,  ie you're being hyperbolic.

 

Sounds like a lot of could, maybe, might, possibly, potentially.....

Yet we've thrown trillions of dollars at this, with no measurable results.

And they want that amount of money to go up 5X.

Annual finance for climate action surpasses USD 1 trillion, but far from levels needed to avoid devastating future losses - CPI

A new study shows that annual climate finance flows surpassed USD 1 trillion for the first time in 2021, six years after the Paris Agreement was adopted in 2015. However, flows must increase by at least five-fold annually by 2030 to avoid the worst impacts of climate change.

And you think this has no effect on economies?

As Bill Gates emailed to J. Epstein:  "How do we get rid of poor people?"

This is how.  And they know it.

 

Edited March 9 by Goddess

[ironstone]

We have heard lots of dire predictions for a very long time now.

Notable Climate Change Predictions That Didn't Come True

Over the past 50 years, various climate change predictions have been made, some of which have not materialized as expected. Here are a few notable examples:

Prediction	Original Year	Expected Outcome	Current Status
Global cooling trend	1970s	Significant global cooling due to aerosol emissions.	Global temperatures continued to rise.
Malthusian scenario on food shortages	1970s	Massive famine by the 2000s due to population growth.	Technological advancements increased food production.
Sea-level rise predictions	1980s	Up to 1 meter (100 cm) rise by 2000s.	Sea-level rise is occurring but is lower than predicted.
Ice-free Arctic summers	2000s	Arctic summers free of ice by 2013-2015.	Arctic ice extent remains, though declining.
Doom-and-gloom scenarios of coastal city flooding	1980s-2000s	Major cities like New York and Miami to be underwater.	Coastal flooding is a concern but not to the predicted extent.

[Reg Volk]

52 minutes ago, John Stone said:

So-called, Climate Change will crap on the global economy, not  the reverse. 

Ur correct tho, to call it a crisis is arguably a dramatic description  - crisis  signifying urgency? 

The global economy is just that - reliance on other Nations .......... for the sake of argument lets focus on domestic food security in terms of import and export. 

The U.S. is a major player in global food production - huge industry - worth about 200 billion - feeds the world, baby.  Agriculture depends on weather patterns and the all important access to fresh water. A recent study found intensifying climatic extremes, combined with disruptive human interventions (groundwater overextractions) are driving alarming water related agricultural costs. The cost of production and the cost to the domestic consumer is a direct relationship - think inflation.  Now project this inadequacy of fresh-water -security globally and the effects on those countries food security concerns, their exports and the effect on their economies. Ya think it could affect global food security and if it did, what would be the result - Four Horses of the Apocalypse, maybe?

Climate change is not a crisis - but it is insidious. 

Likely it will not have a dramatic effect on this gen - maybe the next - but def the following. 

Relax - it don't concern  U - old man! haha 

 

 

Yes the sky is falling boy who cried wolf cult has had it's way with taxpayer pocket books for decades, and trillions of dollars have been grifted, all in the name of a scam.  Finally people are waking up.  I've been saying this for years.

When you want to steal money from taxpayers but can't quantify how much "climate change" you are going to counter by the theft, then you are eventually going to run out of suckers.  As I said, even Greta the doom goblin princess has moved on and is now making a living sucking down money from her Daddy Soros to go hate Jews in "Freedom Flotillas".  Time to move on to the next grift guys, this one is dead.

[Nationalist]

2 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

Doesn't have to be a crisis, only needs to be a risk.  POTENTIAL impacts aren't certain but they could be huge.

Any "crapping on the economy" equals single digit drag on GDP,  ie you're being hyperbolic.

 

Have you seen the costs? Evidently not.

"University of Guelph economics professor Ross McKitrick, estimated federal policies to reduce Canada’s industrial greenhouse gas emissions to net zero by 2050 will cost every Canadian worker $8,000 annually in 2050 because of their negative impact on the economy, reducing Canada’s GDP by 6.2% and costing 254,000 jobs."

https://torontosun.com/opinion/columnists/funding-government-climate-change-programs-costs-every-canadian

And that's only to implement. It doesn't include downstream impacts.

So let's be objective here. $8,000 annually, at a time when the overall economy is rather soft. If there's no crisis, the measures are destructive...to each and every one of us. So...is the crapping on everyone's wallet necessary? Evidently not.

https://www.fraserinstitute.org/commentary/evidence-does-not-support-climate-crisis-claims

Mike...its over. You dont have to be afraid anymore. The costs simply do not justify the impact, either positive or negative. 

Today...what we need to do is drill, harvest, mine and manufacture like never before. We need to remove any and all restrictive policies in place and go to work.

THAT'S how you recover from a global economic shutdown. Not by choking it off.

[John Stone]

18 minutes ago, Reg Volk said:

Yes the sky is falling boy who cried wolf cult has had it's way with taxpayer pocket books for decades, and trillions of dollars have been grifted, all in the name of a scam.  Finally people are waking up.  I've been saying this for years.

When you want to steal money from taxpayers but can't quantify how much "climate change" you are going to counter by the theft, then you are eventually going to run out of suckers.  As I said, even Greta the doom goblin princess has moved on and is now making a living sucking down money from her Daddy Soros to go hate Jews in "Freedom Flotillas".  Time to move on to the next grift guys, this one is dead.

............. so ur suggesting there's political grift on a scale that makes Musk look like a piker? 

haha - how revealing.

Ya can't stop  climate change  - the spaceship is akin to a sub with a faulty ventilation system. 

The World is not that coordinated.