The Climate Crisis is a global scam

[WestCanMan]

11 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

You're a piece of work...  Calling me out for an adult reply

No, I called you out for not making an adult reply.

You just accused conservatives of "trying to take away people's rights" and I pointed out that you're the ones taking away people's BASIC rights.

Again, "SHOULD WOMEN AND GIRLS HAVE THE RIGHT TO A PUBLIC BATHROOM WITH NO MEN IN IT?" 

Just answer these two simple questions, and then we can set the tranny discussion aside:

1. Are you not taking away a basic right of women and girls? 
2. What "right" are conservatives trying to take away from Trans? 

[WestCanMan]

17 hours ago, robosmith said:

Not one climate scientist quoted predicting "all die" ^here. LMAO

BTW, NYC has "faced extreme flooding " several times when the subways filled with water.

I just showed you the quote about "countries being destroyed", stupid. From a NASA "expert" right at the genesis of this latest climate scam. 

Point proven.

Just shut up, add it to your laundry list of daily beatdowns, and move one. 

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, John Stone said:

 Is that ur boyfriends opinion? 

 

 

 

LOL oh look guys....  a leftie is losing an argument and having strange homosexual fantasies

Once again the left claims to be Pro gay rights and the tolerant people and so on but the moment they get angry they start treating homosexuality like it's the worst insult possible   

I'm sorry homosexuality distresses you that much. Clearly you think suggesting someone is homosexual is one of the worst insults you can think of. Gay people are just people dude, and it's not okay to attack gay people and use them as some sort of insult.

Well at least you didn't call me a nigger so I guess that's something

Nobody is more racist or homophobic or intolerant than the left. Here's the latest example we never go a week without seeing it. Shameful

[John Stone]

Just now, CdnFox said:

LOL oh look guys....  a leftie is losing an argument and having strange homosexual fantasies

Once again the left claims to be Pro gay rights and the tolerant people and so on but the moment they get angry they start treating homosexuality like it's the worst insult possible   

I'm sorry homosexuality distresses you that much. Clearly you think suggesting someone is homosexual is one of the worst insults you can think of. Gay people are just people dude, and it's not okay to attack gay people and use them as some sort of insult.

Well at least you didn't call me a nigger so I guess that's something

Nobody is more racist or homophobic or intolerant than the left. Here's the latest example we never go a week without seeing it. Shameful

........ damn dude, can u condense that - I lost interest. 

I applaud ur willingness to be ur own type of man? 

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I was accused of denying science. I asked for an example. I have yet to get an answer. And why? Well obviously because there is no answer. It was nothing but a lame attempt at shaming by a desperate climate change deciple. Nothing more.

 

This is what kills me.

Multiple times we see people on the left here screaming about the science of climate change and how it clearly supports what they're saying.

But the moment that we ask for the actual science so we can look at it every single one of them every single time is unable to produce even one single scientific document that shows that climate change is a crisis or that there's anything we can reasonably do about it that would have a meaningful impact

And we're not talking about once or twice, at least four or five posters here have asked for that kind of science dozens and dozens of times from many different left wing climate hoaxers here

It is quite obvious the science doesn't exist or if it does their opinion is not based on it

[Nationalist]

47 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

This is what kills me.

Multiple times we see people on the left here screaming about the science of climate change and how it clearly supports what they're saying.

But the moment that we ask for the actual science so we can look at it every single one of them every single time is unable to produce even one single scientific document that shows that climate change is a crisis or that there's anything we can reasonably do about it that would have a meaningful impact

And we're not talking about once or twice, at least four or five posters here have asked for that kind of science dozens and dozens of times from many different left wing climate hoaxers here

It is quite obvious the science doesn't exist or if it does their opinion is not based on it

Well...giving them the benefit of the doubt, which I dont really think they deserve at this point but...

It is a scary premise. Very scary in fact. The poisoning and/or altering the climate so much...we all die. Mankind ceases to exist. Ya gotta think quite a number of the...less stable(?) among us would get scared. Perhaps even terrified to the point where they'd willingly damage they're own families, inorder to somehow soothe their fear and dread. BUT...

How long have we...more stable(?) people, been trying to put the brakes on the imposed "greenie" regulations, identifying the basic fact that there actually is no cause for all this fear. There's evidence of Man having an effect on climate and at what??? 8 billion? I'm not surprised. 

The basic problem is...Man is not altering the climate to any heightened state of issue. So imposing stifling regulations to combat a minor issue is...

Stupid and/or just down right fvking mean.

[Goddess]

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

You just accused conservatives of "trying to take away people's rights" and I pointed out that you're the ones taking away people's BASIC rights.

Ironically, it was the Liberals that did this by invoking the Emergency Act illegally and violating our Charter Rights.

Carney, advising Trudeau at the time, wrote an Op-Ed encouraging the Liberals to both invoke the Act and freeze bank accounts and to deal severely with protesters, calling them seditious and treasonous.

Conservatives voted against it.

Edited March 11 by Goddess

[robosmith]

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

1. There's no way to actually prove the premise.

Thanks for proving your delusions of grandeur pretense of climate expertise, dropout.

IF you bothered to TRY to find evidence for ^this BULLSHIT, you would know that GHG warming the Earth is PROVEN SCIENCE.

Quote

Laboratory experiments demonstrate that greenhouse gases (GHGs) like  warm the Earth by absorbing infrared radiation and trapping heat. Key demonstrations include Eunice Foote’s 1856 experiment showing  heats faster than air, bottle experiments using lamps and IR thermometers to measure heat retention, and measuring slower cooling rates for -filled vessels.

Key Lab Experiments and Evidence

• Eunice Foote's 1856 Experiment: Considered the first, this experiment used glass cylinders filled with  and air exposed to sunlight. The -filled cylinder heated up more and stayed warm longer, directly showing  traps heat.
• The Soda Bottle Demonstration: A common educational setup where two bottles—one with normal air, one with added  (often produced via baking soda and vinegar)—are placed under a lamp. The  bottle, representing the atmosphere, consistently shows a higher temperature increase due to infrared absorption.
• Infrared (IR) Camera Tests: These experiments use infrared cameras to visually demonstrate that 
   absorbs heat, blocking infrared radiation from a heat source.
• Cooling Rate Studies: Experiments show that a container filled with  takes longer to cool down than one filled with air, demonstrating the gas's capacity to retain heat energy.
• Advanced Laboratory Setup: These experiments use specialized, convection-free apparatus to measure the additional warming of a heated plate due to back-radiation from , methane, and nitrous oxide. 
  royalsocietypublishing.org +4

These experiments confirm the fundamental principle that while 

 

 is transparent to incoming visible light from the sun, it is opaque to the outgoing, longwave infrared radiation emitted by the Earth

 

4 hours ago, Nationalist said:

2. There appears to be little need for concern.

You have NOT EVEN LOOKED at a single peer reviewed climate journal.

 

2 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

I just showed you the quote about "countries being destroyed", stupid. From a NASA "expert" right at the genesis of this latest climate scam. 

Point proven.

Just shut up, add it to your laundry list of daily beatdowns, and move one. 

Infrastructure suffering damage is NOT "all going die," DOOFUS

 

Edited March 11 by robosmith

[LinkSoul60]

5 hours ago, Nationalist said:

I was accused of denying science. I asked for an example. I have yet to get an answer. And why? Well obviously because there is no answer. It was nothing but a lame attempt at shaming by a desperate climate change deciple. Nothing more.

See..."science" has determined that in all probability, man has contributed to climate change. But the kicker is 2 fold.

1. There's no way to actually prove the premise.

And

2. There appears to be little need for concern.

One of the biggest problems the climate religious have, is man. Man has a need to resolve issues. Thus if we are creating an issue, we will do what is called "research" in order to mitigate any risks.

So today, climate change is not a pressing issue and tomorrow, man will engage in this "research" and will mitigate any risks.

Now you know.

You're quite welcome.

It's generally a pointless debate with your crowd but let's try again real quickly....

1. Yes, there is a way to prove the premise with scientific information gathered from ice cores, rocks and tree rings.  

And

2. Of course there is no concern for you, with the exception of the costs climate change adds to your cost of living, but there is concern for future generations if we stay the same course, which fortunately we're not as global energy continues to evolve to clean, cleaner and renewable forms of energy....Ie; reducing carbon emissions.

You and other bandwagon climate deniers refer to the 'climate religious', while most call them scientists.  It's a tough argument you have though in saying we will research when in fact we've been research for decades already.

Just a quick link, but lot's more out there if interested....

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.

The current warming trend is different because it is clearly the result of human activities since the mid-1800s, and is proceeding at a rate not seen over many recent millennia.¹ It is undeniable that human activities have produced the atmospheric gases that have trapped more of the Sun’s energy in the Earth system. This extra energy has warmed the atmosphere, ocean, and land, and widespread and rapid changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere, and biosphere have occurred.

You're welcome...

[LinkSoul60]

4 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

No, I called you out for not making an adult reply.

You just accused conservatives of "trying to take away people's rights" and I pointed out that you're the ones taking away people's BASIC rights.

Again, "SHOULD WOMEN AND GIRLS HAVE THE RIGHT TO A PUBLIC BATHROOM WITH NO MEN IN IT?" 

Just answer these two simple questions, and then we can set the tranny discussion aside:

1. Are you not taking away a basic right of women and girls? 
2. What "right" are conservatives trying to take away from Trans? 

Not sure where I advocated taking away peoples rights....so you're wrong there.  To humour you though...

Yes, some and girls have the right to gender specific restrooms in most public establishments.  They, along with men also have the right to use 'all gender' restrooms.  

1. No, basic rights are not being taken away from any female because of someones gender choice

2. In the US.... restricted legal recognition and documentation, banned from the military and removal of freedom of expression and education with some states restricting those discussions.

There you go....  now go read more about climate change rather than spending your day thinking about transvestites.

 

[Goddess]

7 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

basic rights are not being taken away from any female because of someones gender choice

It's not just about rights.  Women need privacy from men at times.  And the bathroom is often one of those times.

I put an experience on here before, I'll repeat it but imagine this is your daughter:

 

13 year old girl out with her mother and best friend.  Suddenly gets her period.

Mother takes her into the bathroom and helps her get cleaned up, wrapping her in a sweater while they rinse out her clothing and dry it with the hand dryer.

Girl is crying, Mom says, "It's okay, honey.  We've all been there."

 

Now imagine all that with a big, hairy man wearing a dress, looking on.  And I don't care about the feelings of the man.  What do you think the young girl is feeling?

Do her feelings matter?

Edited March 11 by Goddess

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Thanks for proving your delusions of grandeur pretense of climate expertise, dropout.

IF you bothered to TRY to find evidence for ^this BULLSHIT, you would know that GHG warming the Earth is PROVEN SCIENCE.

 

You have NOT EVEN LOOKED at a single peer reviewed climate journal.

 

Infrastructure suffering damage is NOT "all going die," DOOFUS

 

Dweebles...nothing you've posted here contradicts what I said. You either have reading comprehension issues...or a burning need to propagate fear of...nothing of immediate consequence. 

Go play...this issue requires intellect.

[LinkSoul60]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

It's not just about rights.  Women need privacy from men at times.  And the bathroom is often one of those times.

I put an experience on here before, I'll repeat it but imagine this is your daughter:

 

13 year old girl out with her mother and best friend.  Suddenly gets her period.

Mother takes her into the bathroom and helps her get cleaned up, wrapping her in a sweater while they rinse out her clothing and dry it with the hand dryer.

Girl is crying, Mom says, "It's okay, honey.  We've all been there."

 

Now imagine all that with a big, hairy man wearing a dress, looking on.  And I don't care about the feelings of the man.  What do you think the young girl is feeling?

Do her feelings matter?

That's pretty dramatic don't you think...   I spent a career travelling NA that inevitably had me in more establishments and restrooms than I can remember.  In all those years I honestly cannot recall any instance of little girls or women running out of the ladies room because some big hairy man wearing a dress was in there looking at them.  Try to find a better hypothetical...

[Goddess]

4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

That's pretty dramatic don't you think...   I spent a career travelling NA that inevitably had me in more establishments and restrooms than I can remember.  In all those years I honestly cannot recall any instance of little girls or women running out of the ladies room because some big hairy man wearing a dress was in there looking at them.  Try to find a better hypothetical...

You have no idea or don't care how often this happens to women, do you?

And they didn't go running out because a big hairy man was there.  They were grateful a big hairy man was NOT in there at the time.

[LinkSoul60]

13 minutes ago, Goddess said:

You have no idea or don't care how often this happens to women, do you?

And they didn't go running out because a big hairy man was there.  They were grateful a big hairy man was NOT in there at the time.

Considering I have a mother, wife, daughter and two granddaughters.... I have a very good idea and care very much about what happens to women.  BTW... that was a really fùcking stupid comment.

So how many big hairy men in dresses have you seen in the ladies room, or anywhere for that matter...?  And who told you about these big hairy men in dresses....Trump, or was it Poilievre?

[Goddess]

3 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Considering I have a mother, wife, daughter and two granddaughters.... I have a very good idea and care very much about what happens to women.

I guess we're different then.

I also have a daughter and a granddaughter.  And a daughter-in-law.

I wouldn't want them to experience this very private and embarrassing moment with a man watching them in the bathroom.  I guess it's just me?

5 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

So how many big hairy men in dresses have you seen in the ladies room, or anywhere for that matter...?

We're going to see more and more of them if you have your way.

I've experienced men in the women's washroom twice in the last year, once in an airport and once in a mall.  I didn't like it.  And I wasn't in the midst of a private and embarrassing moment.

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

It's generally a pointless debate with your crowd but let's try again real quickly....

1. Yes, there is a way to prove the premise with scientific information gathered from ice cores, rocks and tree rings.  

And

2. Of course there is no concern for you, with the exception of the costs climate change adds to your cost of living, but there is concern for future generations if we stay the same course, which fortunately we're not as global energy continues to evolve to clean, cleaner and renewable forms of energy....Ie; reducing carbon emissions.

You and other bandwagon climate deniers refer to the 'climate religious', while most call them scientists.  It's a tough argument you have though in saying we will research when in fact we've been research for decades already.

Just a quick link, but lot's more out there if interested....

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.

The current warming trend is different because it is clearly the result of human activities since the mid-1800s, and is proceeding at a rate not seen over many recent millennia.¹ It is undeniable that human activities have produced the atmospheric gases that have trapped more of the Sun’s energy in the Earth system. This extra energy has warmed the atmosphere, ocean, and land, and widespread and rapid changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere, and biosphere have occurred.

You're welcome...

Pretty good summary. Thanks

[LinkSoul60]

2 minutes ago, Goddess said:

guess we're different then.

I also have a daughter and a granddaughter.  And a daughter-in-law.

I wouldn't want them to experience this very private and embarrassing moment with a man watching them in the bathroom.  I guess it's just me?

Correct, by all appearances we are different and think very differently.

I can come up with some bizarre hypotheticals too if you'd like, but why....  So again, how many trans have ever been too close to yours or your families space where it's been uncomfortable and embarrassing?  

[robosmith]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

It's not just about rights.  Women need privacy from men at times.  And the bathroom is often one of those times.

I put an experience on here before, I'll repeat it but imagine this is your daughter:

 

13 year old girl out with her mother and best friend.  Suddenly gets her period.

Mother takes her into the bathroom and helps her get cleaned up, wrapping her in a sweater while they rinse out her clothing and dry it with the hand dryer.

Girl is crying, Mom says, "It's okay, honey.  We've all been there."

 

Now imagine all that with a big, hairy man wearing a dress, looking on.  And I don't care about the feelings of the man.  What do you think the young girl is feeling?

Do her feelings matter?

Why don't the feelings of the transwoman matter?

[LinkSoul60]

3 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Pretty good summary. Thanks

It was a quick one....  This topic is the classic wash, rinse and repeat with many out here.  If we banged our head off the wall each time it's denied we'd have knocked ourselves out long ago....

[Goddess]

3 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Correct, by all appearances we are different and think very differently.

Yes.  My son has expressed that he worries about letting his daughter go into a public washroom now that men are allowed in there too.  Especially knowing that the vast majority of sexual offenders are men.  If your family has no safety concerns, then......ok.

 

4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

some bizarre hypotheticals

It actually wasn't a hypothetical.  It actually happened to someone.

[Nationalist]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

It's generally a pointless debate with your crowd but let's try again real quickly....

1. Yes, there is a way to prove the premise with scientific information gathered from ice cores, rocks and tree rings.  

And

2. Of course there is no concern for you, with the exception of the costs climate change adds to your cost of living, but there is concern for future generations if we stay the same course, which fortunately we're not as global energy continues to evolve to clean, cleaner and renewable forms of energy....Ie; reducing carbon emissions.

You and other bandwagon climate deniers refer to the 'climate religious', while most call them scientists.  It's a tough argument you have though in saying we will research when in fact we've been research for decades already.

Just a quick link, but lot's more out there if interested....

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.

The current warming trend is different because it is clearly the result of human activities since the mid-1800s, and is proceeding at a rate not seen over many recent millennia.¹ It is undeniable that human activities have produced the atmospheric gases that have trapped more of the Sun’s energy in the Earth system. This extra energy has warmed the atmosphere, ocean, and land, and widespread and rapid changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere, and biosphere have occurred.

You're welcome...

And?

What's your point? As I said, I do think Man's activities have contributed to changes in the climate.

That's not the question. The question is, is this something worth the imposition of hardship on the populous. 

And the answer is "no".

[Michael Hardner]

19 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

It was a quick one....  This topic is the classic wash, rinse and repeat with many out here.  If we banged our head off the wall each time it's denied we'd have knocked ourselves out long ago....

People who argue against such things, are actually arguing culture. 

In a certain sense, they are the most right about that side of it.  The actual scientists did a bad job of getting people onside, but they couldn't have expected to combat the Great Wall of Retardation either, really.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

It's generally a pointless debate with your crowd but let's try again real quickly....

1. Yes, there is a way to prove the premise with scientific information gathered from ice cores, rocks and tree rings.  

And

2. Of course there is no concern for you, with the exception of the costs climate change adds to your cost of living, but there is concern for future generations if we stay the same course, which fortunately we're not as global energy continues to evolve to clean, cleaner and renewable forms of energy....Ie; reducing carbon emissions.

You and other bandwagon climate deniers refer to the 'climate religious', while most call them scientists.  It's a tough argument you have though in saying we will research when in fact we've been research for decades already.

Just a quick link, but lot's more out there if interested....

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/

Earth's climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 800,000 years, there have been eight cycles of ice ages and warmer periods, with the end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.

The current warming trend is different because it is clearly the result of human activities since the mid-1800s, and is proceeding at a rate not seen over many recent millennia.¹ It is undeniable that human activities have produced the atmospheric gases that have trapped more of the Sun’s energy in the Earth system. This extra energy has warmed the atmosphere, ocean, and land, and widespread and rapid changes in the atmosphere, ocean, cryosphere, and biosphere have occurred.

You're welcome...

None of that is scientific evidence. Show a peer-reviewed paper not a propaganda web page.

Somewhere there must be a peer-reviewed paper that says climate change is a crisis and or one that explains Exactly how various proposed mitigation methods such as carbon tax specifically reduces that substantially

 

Everyone knows the climate changes. Nobody disputes that.

But it's getting to the point where it's frightening are you guys seem to believe this is a crisis But apparently haven't seen a single piece of actual scientific study the demonstrates it

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

People who argue against such things, are actually arguing culture. 

In a certain sense, they are the most right about that side of it.  The actual scientists did a bad job of getting people onside, but they couldn't have expected to combat the Great Wall of Retardation either, really.

Still haven't provided a scientific peer-reviewed study that shows that it's a crisis or that anything we can do to mitigate it will be effective

Because seeing as you can't actually produce that I feel like you're on the wrong side of the wall of retardation. You believe it's something without evidence

[LinkSoul60]

17 minutes ago, Nationalist said:

And?

What's your point? As I said, I do think Man's activities have contributed to changes in the climate.

That's not the question. The question is, is this something worth the imposition of hardship on the populous. 

And the answer is "no".

Just the fact that climate change itself costs you and I ~$700 annually creates hardship for some doesn't it?  

I look at it differently....  I'm on the back 9 of life and in the grand scheme of things I'm only here for a little while longer (and that's hopefully a few more decades).  I will gladly pay and/or pay more in hidden or direct taxes for our transition away from fossil fuels.  My children and grandchildren and their evolving families will be around for countless years longer than I'll be here and I'd certainly hope they can live in world that hasn't destroyed itself because of the fear of cost associated with making our world cleaner. If we don't spend now we'll be paying a hell of a lot more later...

Regardless of what we hear from Trump and his denials, the positive is that global investment in clean and renewable energy is give or take double that of conventional fossil fuel investment, so we're on the right track.  

Go buy one of those Chinese EV's when they get here.  You'll love it and be helping the environment at the same time....win/win.