The Climate Crisis is a global scam

[Goddess]

47 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

That doesn't change the fact that climate change is real.

Give it up.

Everyone agrees the climate changes.

[CdnFox]

4 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I posted a link yesterday and there are many other links that have been posted over the year I've been here.  Try google and start reading.  It really does work.

OH you mean this one?

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/

There is NO ORIGINAL SCIENCE ON THAT PAGE AT ALL.  None.  That is not a peer reviewed study, there's no science work, even the conclusions are not backed up or based in actual Research.  That is a nasa propaganda page with zero scientific value. 

So no you didn't. You're a complete liar. 

And NO link has ever been posted here to any such work that i've ever seen and i've been looking and asking constantly.

So not only do you have ZERO scientific research to back up your claims, you're prepared to lie about it. 

So why would ANYONE believe you or the  other climate cultists about the subject? 

[LinkSoul60]

39 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Then... Why are you and everyone else being asked having such a difficult time producing any original science work?

Seriously, every single person who's brought up climate change has been asked to provide an actual scientific study or the like indicating that climate change is a crisis right now and or showing that anything we've proposed  to address it (like carbon taxes) will have a significant and measurable result. 

So far no one has, they just say the same thing as you.  "The evidence is out there! Trust us! WHooo BOY there's a lot!  Can't show you any tho..."

 

Google it DF

[WestCanMan]

31 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

The transvestite room is ^^that way^^ 

FIFY

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The thread is about the climate.  

Nevertheless, YOU made a false accusation in this thread, regarding trans, so YOU STILL NEED TO BACKUP YOUR OWN FALSE ACCUSATION REGARDING TRANS.

What's your new standard?

• Linkie: "You can lie about things that are OT in a thread, and then you never have to back your lies up, because people can never refer back to them"

[User]

42 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I posted a link yesterday and there are many other links that have been posted over the year I've been here.  Try google and start reading.  It really does work.

And yet you still pretend you don’t know anything about how women and girls are impacted by trans men in their spaces…

45 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

The thread is about the climate.  The transvestite room is that way 👉 

There is no room for them… they go make women uncomfortable in theirs.

Also, if you want to brag about “The Science! TM” then it’s fair game to bring up how you don’t follow it either. 

[LinkSoul60]

39 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

You know, when @Goddess argues things she tends to provide proof. When she says the covid vaccines had higher risks than originally thought she posts actual peer reviewed research documents that arrive at that precise conclusion, and more than one. 

LIkewise i usually provide actual research to back up my science related claims, actual accounting research and gov't statistics for my economic claims,  etc. 

Yet for some reason YOU can't come up with  single actual original research document to support your claim. 

 

Why not? 

We weren't talking about vaccines DF.  

Why are you incapable of finding the easily accessible climate data yourself?

[Goddess]

Obviously I haven't been through every paper in this database, just posting in case anyone else wants to take a boo at some of them.  It's over 300 papers, covering a variety of climate topics like temperature attribution, solar variability, GHG physics, ocean chemistry, sea level change, etc.

Peer reviewed papers — Shortfall

 

There's also this database of over 1,350 papers in support of some skepticism of climate narrative:

Popular Technology.net: 1350+ Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skeptic Arguments Against ACC/AGW Alarmism

 

At the very least, these databases show that climate science is an active field of debate, and that claims of "consensus" and "settled science" are.......premature.

 

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

We weren't talking about vaccines DF.  

Why are you incapable of finding the easily accessible climate data yourself?

Geez.  😬

I think you need to take a break.

Maybe go for a walk?

Your anger is making you completely miss the point of posts.

 

[LinkSoul60]

36 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

OH you mean this one?

https://science.nasa.gov/climate-change/evidence/

There is NO ORIGINAL SCIENCE ON THAT PAGE AT ALL.  None.  That is not a peer reviewed study, there's no science work, even the conclusions are not backed up or based in actual Research.  That is a nasa propaganda page with zero scientific value. 

So no you didn't. You're a complete liar. 

And NO link has ever been posted here to any such work that i've ever seen and i've been looking and asking constantly.

So not only do you have ZERO scientific research to back up your claims, you're prepared to lie about it. 

So why would ANYONE believe you or the  other climate cultists about the subject? 

You're too fûcking stunned to think outside your bird cage anyway so don't look for the data, you'll be happier....

I always got a kick out of this quote if only for its accuracy....

“How sad it must be - believing that scientists, scholars, historians, economists, and journalists have devoted their entire lives to deceiving you, while a reality tv star with decades of fraud and exhaustively documented lying is your only beacon of truth and honesty."

– Neil deGrasse Tyson

 

[CdnFox]

5 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Give it up.

Everyone agrees the climate changes.

This is their little game. If anyone challenges the idea that climate change is a crisis or questions what percent of it is man-made or not or whether we can do anything to actually change climate change they come back with this idea that we're denying the climate ever changes

This is a logical fallacy known as reducio ad absurdum where they take a reasonable position proposed and reduce it to a ridiculous level to try to argue against it. 

It would be great if we could just have honest discussions about this stuff but.... here we are

[LinkSoul60]

28 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

FIFY

Nevertheless, YOU made a false accusation in this thread, regarding trans, so YOU STILL NEED TO BACKUP YOUR OWN FALSE ACCUSATION REGARDING TRANS.

What's your new standard?

• Linkie: "You can lie about things that are OT in a thread, and then you never have to back your lies up, because people can never refer back to them"

Come on man.... seriously, I don't want to talk about transvestites.  If it will shut you up and get you thinking of another topic just go back to what I said about their rights and what the some are doing to take those away.  Enough said....move on.  

[CdnFox]

23 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Google it DF

Google says you're a lying sack of shit, you lying sack of shit  

In fact going back to the 90's we find papers and documents refuting the idea that 'climate change is a crisis"

Many climate change scientists do not agree that global warming is happening - PMC

So. what you're saying is YOU"VE never googled it and you're entire position is based on non scientific sources. 

Whether most scientists outside climatology believe that global warming is happening is less relevant than whether the climatologists do. A letter signed by over 50 leading members of the American Meteorological Society warned about the policies promoted by environmental pressure groups. “The policy initiatives derive from highly uncertain scientific theories. They are based on the unsupported assumption that catastrophic global warming follows from the burning of fossil fuel and requires immediate action.

 

This trend continued with many scientists publishing data and peer reviewed papers questioning if it's a crisis

(PDF) ‘Global warming is not a crisis!’: Studying climate change skepticism on the Web

 

Seeing as you like non scientific links i''ll give you one, but even this one links to actual research

Evidence does not support ‘climate crisis’ claims | Fraser Institute

"other research suggests what most people intuitively know---because Canada's climate is colder, global warming could produce higher benefits and lower costs for Canada than the U.S. For example, Canada's agriculture and tourism industries would likely benefit from warmer temperatures."

The link to that study is in the article 

There are dozens more.  BUt i've given examples spanning almost 3 decades. 

So I've got no problem finding tons of stuff that says climate change isn't actually a crisis

 

Isn't it interesting that you can't find a single bit of science that says it IS a crisis 

 

1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Come on man.... seriously, I don't want to talk about transvestites.  If it will shut you up and get you thinking of another topic just go back to what I said about their rights and what the some are doing to take those away.  Enough said....move on.  

Well if you want to stay on topic why not actually post some scientific studies instead of admitting you don't have any

[LinkSoul60]

31 minutes ago, User said:

And yet you still pretend you don’t know anything about how women and girls are impacted by trans men in their spaces…

There is no room for them… they go make women uncomfortable in theirs.

Also, if you want to brag about “The Science! TM” then it’s fair game to bring up how you don’t follow it either. 

I'll humour your little mind....   Yes, you are correct that I don't know about how women and girls 'are impacted by trans men in their spaces' because in all my years I've never heard the complaint or concern from the women in my life.  I guess maybe they or I just don't get around enough....

[WestCanMan]

8 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Come on man.... seriously, I don't want to talk about transvestites. 

Wrong. You are lying. 

The simple fact is that you made a serious accusation that you can't back up, so you keep on making these disingenuous replies to weasel out of it. 

This has nothing to do with trans and everything to do with you making a false accusation. 

[LinkSoul60]

29 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Geez.  😬

I think you need to take a break.

Maybe go for a walk?

Your anger is making you completely miss the point of posts.

 

No shit!  You wackjobs have been going at me non-stop while I've been watching another day of the markets declining.  Not sure if that's a fair trade-off or not....

Don't confuse 'anger' with the sarcasm that is directed towards yourselves. The last thing your crowd does is anger me.  Shaking my head and laughing in disbelief is a more accurate analogy.  

[Goddess]

1 minute ago, LinkSoul60 said:

No shit!  You wackjobs have been going at me non-stop while I've been watching another day of the markets declining.  Not sure if that's a fair trade-off or not....

Don't confuse 'anger' with the sarcasm that is directed towards yourselves. The last thing your crowd does is anger me.  Shaking my head and laughing in disbelief is a more accurate analogy.  

Ya?

Usually it's anger that makes people kneejerk react and not get the actual points being made.

Best to take some time off the board, either way.

 

 

[Michael Hardner]

3 hours ago, Goddess said:

 

Overwhelming Majority of US Youth Worried About Climate Change
 

 

Worried is closer to "concerned" than it is to afraid, I would say.

If we tell them "hey, climate changes"... maybe they'll worry less?

 

Or maybe they will think to ask WHY it changes.

 

 

[LinkSoul60]

19 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Wrong. You are lying. 

The simple fact is that you made a serious accusation that you can't back up, so you keep on making these disingenuous replies to weasel out of it. 

This has nothing to do with trans and everything to do with you making a false accusation. 

Here.  No go find another sandbox to play in....

Yes, since 2022, and with a significant acceleration in 2025, there has been a coordinated, multi-pronged effort in the United States to restrict and rescind rights for transgender people at both state and federal levels.

 

According to 2025-2026 reporting, these actions have targeted gender-affirming care, identity documentation, public accommodations, and legal recognition. 

Wikipedia +2

Key Actions and Restrictions (2025-2026):

• Federal Policy Reversal: Following his inauguration in January 2025, President Donald Trump signed executive orders targeting transgender individuals, including a directive defining sex as binary and fixed at birth, reversing federal recognition of transgender identities.
• Healthcare Bans: As of late 2025, over half of U.S. states have passed laws banning or restricting gender-affirming care, particularly for minors. On June 18, 2025, the Supreme Court ruled in United States v. Skrmetti that bans on gender-affirming care for minors are constitutional.
• Military Service: In 2025, the Trump administration barred transgender individuals from military service and initiated the discharge of currently serving transgender personnel.
• Identification Documents: Federal policy now restricts the ability of transgender people to obtain passports with accurate gender markers, removing the "X" marker option and requiring passports to match sex assigned at birth. Several states, including Florida and Texas, have also restricted or banned changing gender markers on driver's licenses.
• Education and Sports: Federal and state actions have moved to restrict transgender students from participating in sports teams matching their gender identity and have implemented policies restricting the use of chosen names or pronouns in schools.
• Public Accommodations: Several states have passed laws restricting access to restrooms and locker rooms in public facilities based on sex assigned at birth. 
  HRC | Human Rights Campaign +6

While many of these policies are being challenged in court and some have faced temporary blocks, the overall trend has been a significant rollback of protections, with 2025 marking a record year for anti-trans legislation considered and passed. 

Anti-Trans Bill Tracker +2

[Legato]

3 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Here.  No go find another sandbox to play in....

 

Yes, since 2022, and with a significant acceleration in 2025, there has been a coordinated, multi-pronged effort in the United States to restrict and rescind rights for transgender people at both state and federal levels.

 

According to 2025-2026 reporting, these actions have targeted gender-affirming care, identity documentation, public accommodations, and legal recognition. 

Wikipedia +2

Key Actions and Restrictions (2025-2026):

• Federal Policy Reversal: Following his inauguration in January 2025, President Donald Trump signed executive orders targeting transgender individuals, including a directive defining sex as binary and fixed at birth, reversing federal recognition of transgender identities.
• Healthcare Bans: As of late 2025, over half of U.S. states have passed laws banning or restricting gender-affirming care, particularly for minors. On June 18, 2025, the Supreme Court ruled in United States v. Skrmetti that bans on gender-affirming care for minors are constitutional.
• Military Service: In 2025, the Trump administration barred transgender individuals from military service and initiated the discharge of currently serving transgender personnel.
• Identification Documents: Federal policy now restricts the ability of transgender people to obtain passports with accurate gender markers, removing the "X" marker option and requiring passports to match sex assigned at birth. Several states, including Florida and Texas, have also restricted or banned changing gender markers on driver's licenses.
• Education and Sports: Federal and state actions have moved to restrict transgender students from participating in sports teams matching their gender identity and have implemented policies restricting the use of chosen names or pronouns in schools.
• Public Accommodations: Several states have passed laws restricting access to restrooms and locker rooms in public facilities based on sex assigned at birth. 
  HRC | Human Rights Campaign +6

While many of these policies are being challenged in court and some have faced temporary blocks, the overall trend has been a significant rollback of protections, with 2025 marking a record year for anti-trans legislation considered and passed. 

Anti-Trans Bill Tracker +2

So in other words, reversing the crazy rules forced into an unwelcoming public domain by the Biden administration.

About time. Common sense at last.

[robosmith]

22 hours ago, Nationalist said:

And?

What's your point? As I said, I do think Man's activities have contributed to changes in the climate.

That's not the question. The question is, is this something worth the imposition of hardship on the populous. 

And the answer is "no".

The thing that you'll never understand is there is a price to be paid one way or the other.

People who live on the coast or low altitude islands will be the first to pay the heaviest price.

So MAGA inlanders' like you obviously won't care.... until your permafrost melts.

[Goddess]

8 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Worried is closer to "concerned" than it is to afraid, I would say.

If we tell them "hey, climate changes"... maybe they'll worry less?

 

Or maybe they will think to ask WHY it changes.

 

 

Not to belabor the point, but the article title uses the word "distress".  To the point it affects their life decisions.

And almost 40% say it affects their life negatively.

I think that's a bit more than just "concerned", don't you?

I see you think this is good thing.

I disagree.

[User]

32 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

I'll humour your little mind....   Yes, you are correct that I don't know about how women and girls 'are impacted by trans men in their spaces' because in all my years I've never heard the complaint or concern from the women in my life.  I guess maybe they or I just don't get around enough....

I’ve never had anyone in my life or my close friends or family murdered….

Oh well, I guess murders don’t happen and are no big deal. 

[robosmith]

21 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

What kind of scientific proof would produce proof of 'crisis' which is a relative and subjective term?

They can't even prove 100% that CO2 causes the warming we're seeing.

There is 100% proof in the lab that CO2 causes warming, so the only question is how much of the warming we're seeing is CO2 and how much is other sources LIKE METHANE.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

We weren't talking about vaccines DF.  

 

Nobody said we were. So now you're just lying again to try and change the subject. Typical

What I said was that when she does she provides evidence. When other people make scientific claims they provide scientific evidence.

But you can't provide a single drop of scientific evidence

And when that's pointed out you just start lying your ass off as you just did moments ago claiming that people talked about something they didn't talk about

If you continually lie as you are doing people will look at you as nothing but a liar. There are a few on the left here who have that problem. You should avoid being one of them and start being honest

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Why are you incapable of finding the easily accessible climate data yourself?

Because there isn't any.

I found plenty that suggests it's not a crisis, but I haven't actually been able to find anything that suggests it was.  I even posted scientific peer reviewed documents to that extent. But nothing so far that suggests its' a crisis from a science research study or the like.  Just 'webpages'. 

The real question is why can't you find it. You obviously can't so what does that tell us?

[Legato]

1 minute ago, robosmith said:

The thing that you'll never understand is there is a price to be paid one way or the other.

People who live on the coast or low altitude islands will be the first to pay the heaviest price.

So MAGA inlanders' like you obviously won't care.... until your permafrost melts.

Tell that to Obama, I'm sure he will sell his oceanfront property.