Michael Hardner Posted March 11 Report Posted March 11 30 minutes ago, CdnFox said: Still haven't provided a scientific peer-reviewed study that shows that it's a crisis or that anything we can do to mitigate it will be effective What kind of scientific proof would produce proof of 'crisis' which is a relative and subjective term? They can't even prove 100% that CO2 causes the warming we're seeing. Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
LinkSoul60 Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 22 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: People who argue against such things, are actually arguing culture. In a certain sense, they are the most right about that side of it. The actual scientists did a bad job of getting people onside, but they couldn't have expected to combat the Great Wall of Retardation either, really. lol... and that's one hell of a wall to break through! I won't disagree that the scientific world (and governments) could have and still do a better job of explaining the impact on peoples, but wonder if the narrative would be any different if some ex-Reality TV guy didn't come along and find a large group of guidable followers... Neither here nor there now though but certainly trust we're heading the right direction. 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 39 minutes ago, CdnFox said: None of that is scientific evidence. Show a peer-reviewed paper not a propaganda web page. It's been talked about countless times with countless scientific papers published.... It's unequivocal. You're part of that far right knuckle dragging crowd that is obliged to deny climate change anyway so it's a pointless and would be a wasted exercise trying to explain otherwise to you. 2 Quote
User Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 7 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: 2. In the US.... restricted legal recognition and documentation, banned from the military and removal of freedom of expression and education with some states restricting those discussions. There is no right to be recognized as something you are not on official government documentation that is meant to ID you as what you actually are. There is no right to join the military. There is no right to push your BS onto children in K-12 education. 5 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: That's pretty dramatic don't you think... I spent a career travelling NA that inevitably had me in more establishments and restrooms than I can remember. In all those years I honestly cannot recall any instance of little girls or women running out of the ladies room because some big hairy man wearing a dress was in there looking at them. Try to find a better hypothetical... Not a hypothetical just because you never personally witnessed it happening... "Ruling on a the case that has seized national attention and reinvigorated debate over parental rights in public education, a Virginia juvenile court judge concluded Monday that a transgender teenager sexually assaulted a female student in a Loudoun County high school in May." https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-rules-loudoun-county-teen-131413442.html Quote
User Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 4 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Considering I have a mother, wife, daughter and two granddaughters.... I have a very good idea and care very much about what happens to women. BTW... that was a really fùcking stupid comment. So how many big hairy men in dresses have you seen in the ladies room, or anywhere for that matter...? And who told you about these big hairy men in dresses....Trump, or was it Poilievre? Can you even define the term woman? Once again, you hide behind non-specific personal anecdotes. Once again, just because you have not seen it and choose to pretend this stuff isn't happening doesn't change the facts that it is: Lia Thomas exposed 'male genitalia' in women's locker room at swim meet, ex-swimmer says https://katv.com/news/nation-world/lia-thomas-exposed-male-genitalia-in-womens-locker-room-at-swim-meet-ex-swimmer-says Quote
User Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 4 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Correct, by all appearances we are different and think very differently. I can come up with some bizarre hypotheticals too if you'd like, but why.... So again, how many trans have ever been too close to yours or your families space where it's been uncomfortable and embarrassing? Once again, not a hypothetical. There have been numerous major stories on these things over the years. Your pretending it doesn't happen only shows how you have no regard for the truth or those women impacted and will do or say anything to push the Trans madness. Trans gymgoer caught ‘masturbating’ in women’s bathroom at California Planet Fitness https://nypost.com/2026/01/05/us-news/trans-gymgoer-caught-masturbating-in-womens-bathroom-at-california-planet-fitness/ Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 1 hour ago, User said: There is no right to be recognized as something you are not on official government documentation that is meant to ID you as what you actually are. There is no right to join the military. There is no right to push your BS onto children in K-12 education. Not a hypothetical just because you never personally witnessed it happening... "Ruling on a the case that has seized national attention and reinvigorated debate over parental rights in public education, a Virginia juvenile court judge concluded Monday that a transgender teenager sexually assaulted a female student in a Loudoun County high school in May." https://www.yahoo.com/news/judge-rules-loudoun-county-teen-131413442.html Trump told you trans were taking over women sports and you believed him. Do you not have better things to be concerned about? 1 hour ago, User said: Can you even define the term woman? Once again, you hide behind non-specific personal anecdotes. Once again, just because you have not seen it and choose to pretend this stuff isn't happening doesn't change the facts that it is: Lia Thomas exposed 'male genitalia' in women's locker room at swim meet, ex-swimmer says https://katv.com/news/nation-world/lia-thomas-exposed-male-genitalia-in-womens-locker-room-at-swim-meet-ex-swimmer-says Why do I need to define a woman... I married one. 1 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 (edited) 1 hour ago, User said: Once again, not a hypothetical. There have been numerous major stories on these things over the years. Your pretending it doesn't happen only shows how you have no regard for the truth or those women impacted and will do or say anything to push the Trans madness. Trans gymgoer caught ‘masturbating’ in women’s bathroom at California Planet Fitness https://nypost.com/2026/01/05/us-news/trans-gymgoer-caught-masturbating-in-womens-bathroom-at-california-planet-fitness/ You know that google has you flagged right now as a transvestite peeper, don't you... All future ads you get will now have a trans content to them. Edited March 12 by LinkSoul60 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: What kind of scientific proof would produce proof of 'crisis' which is a relative and subjective term? What kind wouldn't? Many scientific peer reviewed studies reports and articles use that term. There's even a peer reviewed study and a few peer reviewed papers on the crisis in peer review Most works define how they're using the word if it isn't obvious. So if THAT was your argument, complete and utter swing and a miss on your part. But heck at this point i'd take a scientific research paper that used similar words even if it wasn't specifically 'crisis' Unless it's not really a crisis. Certainly people TALKING ABOUT the research use that term constantly, and have completely dire predictions which they also can't back up as it turns out with hard science. 5 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: They can't even prove 100% that CO2 causes the warming we're seeing. IS that a fact. How on earth do you expect us tp take you remotely seriously then? It sounds like what you're saying is that no scientist thinks it's a crisis or is even sure that mankind's behavior is the primary culprit. IF that's the case then why are you trying to suggest people who doubt it are 'retarded' and such? You get how this makes you look right? Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
User Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: Trump told you trans were taking over women sports and you believed him. Do you not have better things to be concerned about? You made ignorant comments about “rights” and I pointed this out. Now you play the dumb game of acting like you don’t know why we are even talking about this. 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: Why do I need to define a woman... I married one. You are the one bragging about this stuff as if it means something while you defend men pretending to be women calling themselves women and being treated like they are. Quote
User Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: You know that google has you flagged right now as a transvestite peeper, don't you... All future ads you get will now have a trans content to them. I gave you 3 examples as you dishonestly tried to claim this is a hypothetical. You can’t respond to the facts. Quote
Nationalist Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 11 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Just the fact that climate change itself costs you and I ~$700 annually creates hardship for some doesn't it? How do you figure this? 11 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: I look at it differently.... I'm on the back 9 of life and in the grand scheme of things I'm only here for a little while longer (and that's hopefully a few more decades). I will gladly pay and/or pay more in hidden or direct taxes for our transition away from fossil fuels. My children and grandchildren and their evolving families will be around for countless years longer than I'll be here and I'd certainly hope they can live in world that hasn't destroyed itself because of the fear of cost associated with making our world cleaner. If we don't spend now we'll be paying a hell of a lot more later... So we're both seniors. I want my kids and their kids to be able to afford good food. Enjoy life instead of struggle to keep their heads above water. We are not destroying the world. We ain't all gonna die. Relax yourself. Every method we use for energy is much more efficient and much less "dirty" than it was originally. Even coal burning generators are way cleaner than originally. Today we hardly use coal anyway. We use natural gas, propane, nuclear, hydro. None of which are "dirty" at all. Hell we're now on the doorstep of harnessing fusion power. You completely ignore these developments. Your premise strongly suggests that Man will not continue to develop and that's just silly. 11 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Regardless of what we hear from Trump and his denials, the positive is that global investment in clean and renewable energy is give or take double that of conventional fossil fuel investment, so we're on the right track. Again...how do you figure? Do you not understand the principle of cause and effect? Do you not understand what's driving most of our inflation? Do you not want your family to enjoy a comparable life style that we had years ago? We have regulated ourselves into a nightmare. We cant even build a Gawd Damn house in a reasonable period of time. Its insanity. The bottom line is, your fear is unwarranted. All you've accomplished is to make your own family struggle to make ends meat. Bravo. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
LinkSoul60 Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 7 hours ago, User said: You made ignorant comments about “rights” and I pointed this out. Now you play the dumb game of acting like you don’t know why we are even talking about this. You are the one bragging about this stuff as if it means something while you defend men pretending to be women calling themselves women and being treated like they are. Trans persons having rights is ignorant? That's an ignorant comment don't you think.... I know exactly what I was talking about and that was climate change, not transvestites that certainly seem to have place in your thoughts....not mine. I'm not defending 'men being women' at all. I am though a defender of peoples rights and have an attitude of 'you do your thing and I'll do mine'. Someone told you this is a troubling social issue that needs to be corrected so your natural gullibility for anything Trump is to jump on the bandwagon and sing the narrative. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 3 hours ago, Nationalist said: So we're both seniors. I want my kids and their kids to be able to afford good food. Enjoy life instead of struggle to keep their heads above water. We are not destroying the world. We ain't all gonna die. Relax yourself. Every method we use for energy is much more efficient and much less "dirty" than it was originally. Even coal burning generators are way cleaner than originally. Today we hardly use coal anyway. We use natural gas, propane, nuclear, hydro. None of which are "dirty" at all. Hell we're now on the doorstep of harnessing fusion power. You completely ignore these developments. Your premise strongly suggests that Man will not continue to develop and that's just silly. Yes, I have those same wants for my children and theirs for a lifetime, not just today. Yes, we are destroying or maybe better said harming the planet and again, that's unequivocal. I've never said we're all going to die and don't believe the scientific community has said this either but the fact remains we could not continue down the path of fossil fuels as the dominant source of energy which thankfully we're not. Correct that we use those forms of energy but to say natural gas is clean is a false statement. It's a 'cleaner' form of energy but certainly not clean with the co2 it emits. You've missed what I've copied and said.... My premise is the exact opposite of what you said. Mankind has and will continue to adapt and in this conversation, further away from fossil fuels. Quote
Nationalist Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 50 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: Yes, I have those same wants for my children and theirs for a lifetime, not just today. Yes, we are destroying or maybe better said harming the planet and again, that's unequivocal. I've never said we're all going to die and don't believe the scientific community has said this either but the fact remains we could not continue down the path of fossil fuels as the dominant source of energy which thankfully we're not. Correct that we use those forms of energy but to say natural gas is clean is a false statement. It's a 'cleaner' form of energy but certainly not clean with the co2 it emits. You've missed what I've copied and said.... My premise is the exact opposite of what you said. Mankind has and will continue to adapt and in this conversation, further away from fossil fuels. No we are not destroying or even severely harming the atmosphere. Please get a grip on your fear-porn. I agree that Man will continue to research other sources of energy. But until we have a RELIABLE substitute...you have to stop advocating for financial and life-style destruction. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
LinkSoul60 Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 3 minutes ago, Nationalist said: No we are not destroying or even severely harming the atmosphere. Please get a grip on your fear-porn. I agree that Man will continue to research other sources of energy. But until we have a RELIABLE substitute...you have to stop advocating for financial and life-style destruction. You really need to lose that rightwing narrative of people 'fearing' climate change. 'Concerned' would be a much better and far more appropriate word to use. There is little to advocate for any longer as the investment in energy's transition towards clean, cleaner and renewable forms has been significantly larger than fossil fuel investment over at least the past decade. That is only to continue to proportionally increase as the time goes on. If your concern is purely financially driven, why do you discount the ~$700 we pay annually in Canada because of the impacts of climate change? Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 6 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: You really need to lose that rightwing narrative of people 'fearing' climate change. 'Concerned' would be a much better and far more appropriate word to use. Yes, I don't get this either. It's framed as scientists "scaring" people about climate change... ostensibly by publishing papers that correlate temperatures with Co2 counts. Hmmm... Meanwhile they'll push out a video of someone passing out after taking a vaccine... not scary at all I suppose... Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
WestCanMan Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 20 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Not sure where I advocated taking away peoples rights....so you're wrong there. To humour you though... Yes, some and girls have the right to gender specific restrooms in most public establishments. They, along with men also have the right to use 'all gender' restrooms. 1. No, basic rights are not being taken away from any female because of someones gender choice 2. In the US.... restricted legal recognition and documentation, banned from the military and removal of freedom of expression and education with some states restricting those discussions. There you go.... now go read more about climate change rather than spending your day thinking about transvestites. Wow. That was some serious dodging and weaselling. And none of it coherent. Basic freedom: "Girls having public bathrooms to use with no men present" - gone. Stripped away by leftists. Just go into the bathroom in front of that man who's dressed like a woman and hope for the best, little Sally. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
LinkSoul60 Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 21 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Yes, I don't get this either. It's framed as scientists "scaring" people about climate change... ostensibly by publishing papers that correlate temperatures with Co2 counts. Hmmm... Meanwhile they'll push out a video of someone passing out after taking a vaccine... not scary at all I suppose... It's like clockwork Michael.... never changes and always the same. Just pick a subject from the climate, to vaccines, to gender, to lefties, to fake MSM and you get the same schtick from the same people. I don't know this factually but I'm thinking because it's always the same narratives that are being espoused in those topics there has to be some sort of low-end apptitude test they go through to be a certified rightwing champion...? Quote
Nationalist Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 13 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: You really need to lose that rightwing narrative of people 'fearing' climate change. 'Concerned' would be a much better and far more appropriate word to use. There is little to advocate for any longer as the investment in energy's transition towards clean, cleaner and renewable forms has been significantly larger than fossil fuel investment over at least the past decade. That is only to continue to proportionally increase as the time goes on. If your concern is purely financially driven, why do you discount the ~$700 we pay annually in Canada because of the impacts of climate change? What $700? Its not a case of politics. Its a case of finance. Concern/fear...all a matter of interpretation. Look... We shut the entire global economy down for over 2 years out of fear. Then, we continued to give government grants to "green" technology when we should have de-regulated across the board, in order to recover. Yes! Its a fcking financial issue and these Gawd forsaken "green" restrictions kill investment and kill any hope of financial stability. Look at Germany. The dumb fcks have a real problem with energy prices. With heating. Electricity. Logistics. Farming... Germany: France: England: Its WAY past time we all realized that, not only is our use of fossil fuels not a pressing concern, but the impositions put in place to damage the industry that forms the fcking pillar of our global economy...is what it sounds like. STUPID! Man can...and will...develop other sources of energy. But TODAY the economy depends on fossil fuels. The infrastructure is literally built to facilitate that. The energy production is reliable. And if you Gawd Damn "Greenies" would admit the truth about the imminent disaster you love to waive about... The whole population of Earth would be much better off. 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
LinkSoul60 Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 13 minutes ago, WestCanMan said: Wow. That was some serious dodging and weaselling. And none of it coherent. Basic freedom: "Girls having public bathrooms to use with no men present" - gone. Stripped away by leftists. Just go into the bathroom in front of that man who's dressed like a woman and hope for the best, little Sally. I've been saying for the last 3 pages or so that the subject was about climate yet you DF's feel compelled to talk about transvestites. That's weird man.... To humour you though.... when was the last time you or anyone you know has been in a restroom and either confronted or ogled by a man dressed like a woman.....or do you just fantasize this? And of course leftists did this.... they've slowly destroyed the world don't you think. Quote
User Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: Trans persons having rights is ignorant? That's an ignorant comment don't you think.... What rights? There is no right to be recognized as something you are not on official government documentation that is meant to ID you as what you actually are. There is no right to join the military. There is no right to push your BS onto children in K-12 education. 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: I know exactly what I was talking about and that was climate change, not transvestites that certainly seem to have place in your thoughts....not mine. No, you decided to jump into the discussion to defend the trans gender madness because your boy got called out for his stupid "The Science! TM" comment You don't believe in "The Science! TM" when it comes to other issues, like dudes pretending to be women. 2 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said: I'm not defending 'men being women' at all. I am though a defender of peoples rights and have an attitude of 'you do your thing and I'll do mine'. Someone told you this is a troubling social issue that needs to be corrected so your natural gullibility for anything Trump is to jump on the bandwagon and sing the narrative. You have been doing it here in this thread as you pretend they are not in womens locker rooms or bathrooms impacting women. You seem to be just fine with a dude "doing his thing" jerking off in the womens restroom. 52 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Yes, I don't get this either. It's framed as scientists "scaring" people about climate change... ostensibly by publishing papers that correlate temperatures with Co2 counts. Hmmm... Meanwhile they'll push out a video of someone passing out after taking a vaccine... not scary at all I suppose... You don't get this either? The International Community that is pushing Climate Change is celebrating and highlighting and using people like Greta Thunberg who are literally out on the street crying about how they will have no future and we are destroying their lives with this sensationalized fear-mongering. A literal crying child was the prop of the climate change movement for a decade and you are here pretending to scratch your head like you don't get where we are getting this from? Quote
User Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 19 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: I've been saying for the last 3 pages or so that the subject was about climate yet you DF's feel compelled to talk about transvestites. That's weird man.... To humour you though.... when was the last time you or anyone you know has been in a restroom and either confronted or ogled by a man dressed like a woman.....or do you just fantasize this? And of course leftists did this.... they've slowly destroyed the world don't you think. Here we go again... I have already given you 3 examples and you still play dumb. Here is another example you can dishonestly ignore so you can pretend this is not happening Parent files lawsuit after daughter 'severely beaten' in bathroom by trans student https://komonews.com/news/nation-world/parent-files-lawsuit-after-daughter-severely-beaten-in-bathroom-by-trans-student-oklahoma-city-edmond-memorial-high-school-superintendent-angela-grunewald Quote
WestCanMan Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 25 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said: I've been saying for the last 3 pages or so that the subject was about climate yet you DF's feel compelled to talk about transvestites. That's weird man.... To humour you though.... when was the last time you or anyone you know has been in a restroom and either confronted or ogled by a man dressed like a woman.....or do you just fantasize this? And of course leftists did this.... they've slowly destroyed the world don't you think. Stop weaselling. YOU turned this transvestite topic into a main thrust of this thread, no one else I gave you the opportunity to explain your "conservatives are stripping rights away from people" comment and you ran away screaming sandbox insults like a child. Just man up and admit that conservatives did no such thing and we can close off this side-topic. 1 Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
Goddess Posted March 12 Report Posted March 12 1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said: You really need to lose that rightwing narrative of people 'fearing' climate change. 'Concerned' would be a much better and far more appropriate word to use. 1 hour ago, Michael Hardner said: Yes, I don't get this either. Overwhelming Majority of US Youth Worried About Climate Change Quote Climate change is causing widespread distress among US youth and affecting their beliefs and plans for the future. 85% of respondents said they are at least moderately worried, and 57.9% very or extremely worried, about climate change and its impacts on people and the planet. 42.8% said climate change is impacting their mental health, while 38.3% indicated that their feelings about climate change negatively affect their daily life. Quote "There are two different types of people in the world - those who want to know and those who want to believe." ~~ Friedrich Nietzsche ~~
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