Iran War

[Goddess]

I guess kudos to Carney for coming out and saying he supports the US.  It must have killed him to say it.  We are not the US's ally anymore.  As Carney said, our relationship with the US is OVER. 

We are China's ally now and China is allied with Iran.

Hopefully this is over soon and Canada doesn't have to pick a side because I am not confident that Carney will not choose China as our main ally in a world war.  Same with at least half of Canada.  Polls were already showing that a small majority of Canadians choose China over the US before this started.

[Goddess]

The Libs also foolishly let 600 IRGC members into Canada and gave them citizenship, while they fund multiple extremist groups inside Canada.  This makes us a strategic location for attacks on the US if those cells go kinetic.  

That, along with allying ourselves with China, will not go over well with the US.

Responsible governments matter.

[Goddess]

Oh, perfect.

Canadians are already protesting the US.

[paxamericana]

11 minutes ago, Goddess said:

allying ourselves with China, will not go over well with the US.

More reason to annex you all.

[Michael Hardner]

26 minutes ago, Goddess said:

 We are not the US's ally anymore.  As Carney said, our relationship with the US is OVER. 

We are China's ally now and China is allied with Iran.

 

Hyperbole. He did not say that

[Goddess]

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Hyperbole. He did not say that

Yes.  He did.

7 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Hyperbole. He did not say that

He even specifies that our "tight military and security cooperation"..........dramatic pause......is OVER.

We are not military or security allies with the US anymore.  We are seeking deepening ties with China.

 

Edited February 28 by Goddess

[Reg Volk]

 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

Ya ok. So could Pakistan, India, China, etc...

But they dont. No...I just dont see it. Unfortunately...I can see Isreal nuking places.

Yes and if the us could go back in time and prevent any of them from having nuclear weapons you can bet they would. It's too late to change anything once they actually have them. For the very reason that they might very well use them to attack if you push too hard

Even with Ukraine the US had to ask and get their permission to remove nuclear weapons. Neither rush at nor the US were prepared to risk a conflict to get those weapons.

1 hour ago, Nationalist said:

But they dont.

They haven't. That does not mean they won't. And that is the challenge.

Here's some simple math. If they would never use them, why do they need them?

Of course they will use them under the right circumstances. America never pushes any of those countries too far for that very reason. I ran is hoping that if they have nuclear weapons they can force America to do what they want as well for fear of nuclear exchange

It doesn't matter whether you can see it happening or not. That's utterly irrelevant. If a man is pointing a gun at your head the debate about whether he'll pull the trigger or not isn't relevant, he's a threat. It's best if he doesn't get the gun in the first place

9 minutes ago, Reg Volk said:

 

Number 6 on the list of things I'd never thought I'd see, iranians waving israeli flags

[Goddess]

27 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

Hyperbole. He did not say that

Dude, Carney said our economic relationship and our military/security relationship with the US is......OVER.

He's been trying to make China our economic partner.

And our Immigration minister just announced that we will be prioritizing foreign military recruits into our military.  You don't think the Chinese are going to take full advantage of that?  Trudeau already let them train their military in Canada.

And his top bills for prioritization when he took power was a multitude of censorship bills.  Not immigration reform, not bail reform, not tax reform.  Censorship.

And already half of Canadians polled have said they prefer China to the US.  Because Carney told us the Americans were going to storm our border any second now.

Wake up.  We are aligning ourselves with China.

Edited February 28 by Goddess

[West]

The Iranian military are laying down their arms after getting spanked. Right on 

[Reg Volk]

[Reg Volk]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

 

Number 6 on the list of things I'd never thought I'd see, iranians waving israeli flags

yes I know several Marxist Jew-haters whose heads would explode if they ever saw that.  Maybe now Greta Thunberg can find someone else to hate for awhile.  Speaking of Marxist Jew-haters, here they are, out in force to protest against the people of Iran being freed from a horrible thugocracy:

 

Edited February 28 by Reg Volk

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

I guess kudos to Carney for coming out and saying he supports the US.  It must have killed him to say it.  We are not the US's ally anymore.  As Carney said, our relationship with the US is OVER. 

We are China's ally now and China is allied with Iran.

Hopefully this is over soon and Canada doesn't have to pick a side because I am not confident that Carney will not choose China as our main ally in a world war.  Same with at least half of Canada.  Polls were already showing that a small majority of Canadians choose China over the US before this started.

I'm sure he got permission from china first. They recognized the value of propaganda

[Michael Hardner]

39 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Yes.  He did.

He even specifies that our "tight military and security cooperation"..........dramatic pause......is OVER.

We are not military or security allies with the US anymore.  We are seeking deepening ties with China.

 

You are honest enough. I'm sure to admit that the few words that are different from your quote and what was said in this video alter the meaning. 

You may not think it's significant, but it is. 

After we had kids, my wife and I admitted that our old relationship was over.  I guess I could have said our relationship is over. 

I don't think it would have had the same effect. 

I'll give you a chance to respond, but if you don't want to admit that the words are at least different, then we'll just move on.

18 minutes ago, Goddess said:

Dude, Carney said our economic relationship and our military/security relationship with the US is......OVER.

He's been trying to make China our economic partner.

And our Immigration minister just announced that we will be prioritizing foreign military recruits into our military.  You don't think the Chinese are going to take full advantage of that?  Trudeau already let them train their military in Canada.

And his top bills for prioritization when he took power was a multitude of censorship bills.  Not immigration reform, not bail reform, not tax reform.  Censorship.

And already half of Canadians polled have said they prefer China to the US.  Because Carney told us the Americans were going to storm our border any second now.

Wake up.  We are aligning ourselves with China.

It's kind of a tell, as in a tell in the poker sense, that you replied to my post twice before I responded. 

I can say we are aligning ourselves to China but it's not the same thing as an ally. 

Words mean things. 

 

[Goddess]

2 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

You are honest enough. I'm sure to admit that the few words that are different from your quote and what was said in this video alter the meaning. 

You may not think it's significant, but it is. 

After we had kids, my wife and I admitted that our old relationship was over.  I guess I could have said our relationship is over. 

I don't think it would have had the same effect. 

I'll give you a chance to respond, but if you don't want to admit that the words are at least different, then we'll just move on.

4 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

It's kind of a tell, as in a tell in the poker sense, that you replied to my post twice before I responded.

 

Do you have a different interpretation for "our old relationship with the US, based on economic partnership and military and security cooperation is......OVER." ??

I do that a lot.  It's because I think of other things to say after I post.  It's not nefarious.

 

[Goddess]

12 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I can say we are aligning ourselves to China but it's not the same thing as an ally. 

The difference is pretty subtle.

"Aligning" myself with someone means I am working on making them an ally.  The hope is that they become an ally shortly.

"Aligning" is the process.  The goal of the process is they become your "ally."

The US is neither our economic ally, nor our military ally anymore.

Edited February 28 by Goddess

[gatomontes99]

 

 

[Goddess]

16 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

After we had kids, my wife and I admitted that our old relationship was over.  I guess I could have said our relationship is over. 

I don't think it would have had the same effect. 

The more I think about this illustration, the weirder it is.

Like, if your wife said to you "Our old relationship is over."  That's pretty generic.  It implies you still have a relationship, but it's different somehow.

But if your wife says, "Our old relationship is over.  Specifically - our financial relationship is over and our sexual relationship and living together relationship is over."

The specifics given leave no doubt that, really, the whole relationship is over.  Not just different.

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

Sure. Israel's THEFT of Palestinian land has nothing to do with destabilization. LMAO

There is a REASON why Iran can EASILY RECRUIT Arab Nations as PROXIES.

Did Pakistanis STEAL Indian land? 

Yes, far more land than Israel "stole". 

The Pakistanis killed about 2,000 times as many people.

The Pakistanis displaced ten times as many people, with no right to return. 

The Pakistanis got that land given to them the exact same way that Israel was given theirs: by British partition, 8 months earlier.

The Pakistanis even committed a SECOND genocide, which was also in the millions, in 1971.

Now tell me how easily India can recruit Arab nations as proxies, you f'n stupid troll. They can't. The muslims all welcomed Pakistan with open arms that same day. 

 

Robo: your animosity towards Israel is born of bigotry and stupidity, which is par for the course when you're a cultist loser 😉

[WestCanMan]

22 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

I can say we are aligning ourselves to China but it's not the same thing as an ally. 

Can we align ourselves with China without aligning ourselves against the US, MH?

China was trying to complete a deal with Iran to sell them anti-ship missiles. How close should we really be aligned with them after that? Should we give them intel? Harbour their spies? Allow them to plant missile systems here? 

Think about the optics of a shipment of shiny new EV's arriving here from China the day before a Chinese missile roasts 500 American sailors to death...

"Yay Carney"?

 

Think about the old maxim "A friend to all is a friend to none" for a second, if you will. At first it sounds kinda mean, like "Why can't I be friends with everyone?" But how can you have real friends if you don't put their interests ahead of everyone else's?

 

"Can you imagine no 

love, pride, deep-fried chicken,

your best friend always stickin' up for you

even when they know you're wrong?"
 - Train, Drops of Jupiter 

 

Trump is going at us over free trade, yes, yet the US still isn't screwing us all as badly as Quebec is, and he hasn't done as much damage to our economy as Trudeau and Carney did.

[West]

1 hour ago, Goddess said:

Oh, perfect.

Canadians are already protesting the US.

It's amazing to me that Trump can basically obliterate Iran's entire regime in less than 24 hours. 

What is different between he and previous administrations who took decades to get the same result? 

[BeaverFever]

9 hours ago, gatomontes99 said:

That is not what was said. What was said is that they were attempting to restart the program. 

This is a regime that killed 10,000+ people for protesting and you are playing stupid word games to satisfy your TDS. Wtf is wrong with you? Grow Up. 

1). If the nuclear program was really as obliterated as Trump first claimed then Iran would be years or decades away from reconstituting it so there would be no need to rush to attack. That can’t be the reason 

2) Republicans and especially MAGA are the ones who oppose being “the world’s policemen” fighting foreign wars to save the lives of foreigners. Nobody cares LESS about thousands of foreigners dying than MAGAs so that can’t be the reason either. 
 

Republicans have always been the warmongering party the only time they ever pretended to be the peace party was when MAGAs called for Ukraine to surrender to Russia and to make phoney insincere complaints about Obama drone strikes even as Trump set a new record for drone strikes during his first administration. . And when they opposed intervention during the Rwandan genocide. Oh and also when they opposed fighting Hitler.
 

 Trumps statement supposedly justifying the attack  reads just like Hamas’s justification for the October 7 attack on Israel, in that it was mostly a rehashing of old well-worn complaints that have been around for decades, not as a reaction to some new recent event. Like Putin, he waited until the Olympics are over to make the move he always intended to make.  Is Cuba next?  He placed an embargo on them for no apparent reason other historical grievances. Who else is going to learn the true meaning of the FIFA Peace Prize through air strikes?

[Reg Volk]

 

[Reg Volk]

This is just like Venezuela all over again - the people actually affected by this regime change in Iran just like the people affected by the regime change in Venezuela are dancing in the streets and singing the praises of the USA, while liberal white people find yet another cause to demonstrate against and look the giant fools doing it.  Why do these liberal stupid white people enjoy looking like fools all the freaking time?

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, robosmith said:

You mean like the "surgical strike" on that girls' school?

1. I told you guys weeks ago that Iran was likely to kill their own people to blame it on Americans. I even said earlier today that the US should limit the fighting to days when there was no school, so that the Iranians couldn't hit their own schools and blame America
2. You're pretty quick to seize on anti-American news and blow it way out of proportion, like one of the ayatollah's puppets in the DNC
3. Biden fired ONE drone strike during the Kabul debacle. ONE. It killed a bunch of innocent children. That's a 100% catastrophic failure rate. The US and Israel fired thousands of missiles at 500+ targets today. They killed the ayatollah and dozens of his his highest ranking officials and military leaders. But you wanna fixate on that ONE incident which could still have been done by Iran. Newsflash: Even if it was the US, they had one errant missile out of 1,000. That's not even a 0.0% failure rate, it's a 99.9% brilliant success rate. 

And again, this Trump war is a war of regicide, where you go leader vs leader and try to do the least amount of damage possible to legitimate soldiers, instead of keeping the leaders protected and just having a massive peon-slaughter on both sides.

 

Look at your posts, robo, and ask yourself: "How do my critiques and praise differ from what one of the ayatollah's own propagandists would say?" It seems like you're pretty simpatico with the Ayatollah's messaging, and that of Hakeem Jefferies and Ilham Omar. 

Robo: "I wish that the ayatollah would win, and continue to slaughter Iranians, so that Trump would look bad."