BeaverFever Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 7 hours ago, User said: Once again, the point is that you are little more than the most extreme partisan hack. You are ignoring Democrats here when they have engaged in the same crap. The point was that I am honest enough to point out that Carter was the only exception. Uh no your absurd equivocating on every thread proves you’re the hack. I am not ignoring Democrats’ strikes against ISIS, Taliban and Al Qaeda or the Korean and Vietnam wars which were started under Dem presidents. am pointing out that in every case Republicans weren’t opposed to those conflicts they wanted to expand and escalate them and complained that the Democrats were being too soft (except Hitler and Putin then many Republican wanted softness). Also Republicans were the only ones who initiated conflicts unprompted. Iran, Venezuela (Trump), Panama (Bush Sr), Iraq 2 (Bush Jr) were all wars of choice not responses to some global emergent or event. Quote
User Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Uh no your absurd equivocating on every thread proves you’re the hack. Equivocating? You: DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR ERMERGAWD REPUBLCIANS ARE ONLY ONES DAT DO DIS DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR Me: Um, no, Democrats too. You: DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR WHY IS U EQUIVOCATIN DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Also Republicans were the only ones who initiated conflicts unprompted. Iran, Venezuela (Trump), Panama (Bush Sr), Iraq 2 (Bush Jr) were all wars of choice not responses to some global emergent or event. This is just your BS subjective and vague opinion on what constitutes a "some global emergent or event" Quote
Michael Hardner Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 (edited) Here is Graham attempting a rationale: Seems to be... Scaremongering about 11 nuclear bombs, which last year's strike was supposed to rule out. And then there's this bit about " we're going to make a ton of money". Not sure who " we " is supposed to be. But if I had to imagine who would be okay with getting rich over the bodies of so many dead people in the middle East.... I guess a US senator would come to mind. Edited March 13 by Michael Hardner Quote Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
User Posted March 13 Report Posted March 13 8 hours ago, Michael Hardner said: Here is Graham attempting a rationale: Seems to be... Scaremongering about 11 nuclear bombs, which last year's strike was supposed to rule out. And then there's this bit about " we're going to make a ton of money". Not sure who " we " is supposed to be. But if I had to imagine who would be okay with getting rich over the bodies of so many dead people in the middle East.... I guess a US senator would come to mind. No, that is an out-of-context segment from a larger interview. It helps if you watch the whole thing instead of forming opinions off of segments like these when you clearly do not know the whole context. The segment started with a criticism about the cost of the war and other budget items so he was responding to that with how the cost was worth it and how in the end it would be worth it. But here you are, instead of caring about any of that, making absurd inferences that he personally was somehow going to profit and that is what he was talking about. 1 Quote
Reg Volk Posted March 14 Report Posted March 14 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Gaétan Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 The fact that the American president is not the subject of an international arrest warrant is proof that the international court is corrupt and complicit in his crimes 1 1 Quote
Reg Volk Posted March 15 Report Posted March 15 8 hours ago, Gaétan said: The fact that the American president is not the subject of an international arrest warrant is proof that the international court is corrupt and complicit in his crimes I would support Obama being arrested for international crimes for bombing Libya. 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
Hodad Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 On 3/12/2026 at 7:13 AM, gatomontes99 said: The infrastructure we are destroying is their military complex. Sure. Unless you count water plants, power plants, oil infrastructure, etc. But why would civilians need those things?🙄 Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 On 3/15/2026 at 2:52 AM, Gaétan said: The fact that the American president is not the subject of an international arrest warrant is proof that the international court is corrupt and complicit in his crimes I'm thinking the US president believes he is the international order so courts and warrants mean little. Hopefully his war mongering buddy Nutenyahoo decides to land his plane somewhere they can and will exercise the international warrant for him. A twofer deal would be awesome, but wouldn't count it. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 16 Author Report Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Hodad said: Sure. Unless you count water plants, power plants, oil infrastructure, etc. But why would civilians need those things?🙄 The oil infrastructure prevents Iran from making money. There are no reports of power plants being attacked and the only report of a desalination facility being attacked came from Iran. Iran also put out rumors they killed Benjamin Netanyahu and that their speed boats took out American destroyers. Neither are true, so I am going to hold off on believing the third claim, for now. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 5 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: The oil infrastructure prevents Iran from making money. There are no reports of power plants being attacked and the only report of a desalination facility being attacked came from Iran. Iran also put out rumors they killed Benjamin Netanyahu and that their speed boats took out American destroyers. Neither are true, so I am going to hold off on believing the third claim, for now. Iran also reported that we struck a school. We denied it. Turns out we did. Iran reported that we struck the Qeshm Island desalination plant. We denied it. Final answer TBD. Quote
User Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 2 minutes ago, Hodad said: Iran also reported that we struck a school. We denied it. Turns out we did. Iran reported that we struck the Qeshm Island desalination plant. We denied it. Final answer TBD. I am pretty sure we have said we are investigating it and that it is still under investigation. Why is it you lie to support Iran? Do you really hate Trump that much, that you will sacrifice your own integrity and cheer against your own country? 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 16 Author Report Posted March 16 55 minutes ago, Hodad said: Iran also reported that we struck a school. We denied it. Turns out we did. Did we? I have not seen an official report that corroborated that. I saw a NYT article that claimed anonymous sources said we did. I saw a Tomahawk hit near the school. But I have not seen anything that definitively states we struck the school. 1 Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 34 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Did we? I have not seen an official report that corroborated that. I saw a NYT article that claimed anonymous sources said we did. I saw a Tomahawk hit near the school. But I have not seen anything that definitively states we struck the school. Eh, this is an administration of cowardly liars, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to confirm. Trump stopped reporting civilian casualties from drone strikes altogether. The self-described "most transparent president" does not believe the public has a right to know if the military is killing civilians. But yeah, it's looking fairly certain that we did it. Quote
User Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 18 minutes ago, Hodad said: Eh, this is an administration of cowardly liars, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to confirm. Trump stopped reporting civilian casualties from drone strikes altogether. The self-described "most transparent president" does not believe the public has a right to know if the military is killing civilians. But yeah, it's looking fairly certain that we did it. See, these are exactly the kinds of half-truths you engage in. The administration is still required to report civilian deaths to Congress. This does not even appear to have been a drone strike. The point remains, you were the liar who said the administration was outright denying it. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 16 Author Report Posted March 16 1 hour ago, Hodad said: Eh, this is an administration of cowardly liars, so I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for them to confirm. Trump stopped reporting civilian casualties from drone strikes altogether. The self-described "most transparent president" does not believe the public has a right to know if the military is killing civilians. But yeah, it's looking fairly certain that we did it. Do you think an article with zero information that is new or corroborated is impressive? Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Hodad Posted March 16 Report Posted March 16 11 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Do you think an article with zero information that is new or corroborated is impressive? Impressive? No, not particularly. But it serves to separate the ignorant from the willfully ignorant. Congrats, you've self selected into the latter group. Quote
Reg Volk Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 1 hour ago, gatomontes99 said: Do you think an article with zero information that is new or corroborated is impressive? it serves to separate the ignorant from the willfully ignorant. Congrats, Hodad self selected into the latter group. 1 Quote As Democrat and Liberal governments fall, Republicans and Conservatives come to the rescue.
BeaverFever Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 4 hours ago, gatomontes99 said: Did we? I have not seen an official report that corroborated that. I saw a NYT article that claimed anonymous sources said we did. I saw a Tomahawk hit near the school. But I have not seen anything that definitively states we struck the school. Israel wasn’t conducting any strikes in that part of the country. There are no other countries dumb enough or craven enough to be part of this stupid pointless war. Quote
BeaverFever Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 I love how just days ago, before Trump starting begging NATO and the international community for help opening the strait of Hormuz his chief propagandists attacked CNN for accurately reporting that the Trump admin had been absolutely unprepared to deal with the Strait of Hormuz. And despite all the Republican hate speech CNN’s reporting is proven to be completely spot on as the Trump admin flounders. Quote
gatomontes99 Posted March 17 Author Report Posted March 17 33 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Israel wasn’t conducting any strikes in that part of the country. There are no other countries dumb enough or craven enough to be part of this stupid pointless war. There is 1. Quote Don't you think that if I were wrong that I would know it?
Nationalist Posted March 17 Report Posted March 17 (edited) The bottom line here is, the straight has to be opened or problems will escalate. It appears that Isreal has something more than money, to steer the American government with. IMO...Its time for America to hand Isreal a nice helping of raspberries. A Bronx cheer. Cut them loose. Edited March 17 by Nationalist Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
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