BeaverFever Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 Supreme Court strikes down most of Trump's tariffs in a major blow to the president WASHINGTON — Delivering a major blow to President Donald Trump, the Supreme Court on Friday ruled that he exceeded his authority when imposing sweeping tariffs using a law reserved for a national emergency. The justices, divided 6-3, held that Trump's aggressive approach to tariffs on products entering the United States from across the world was not permitted under a 1977 law called the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA). The ruling was authored by Chief Justice John Roberts, who was joined by three liberal justices and two fellow conservatives, Justices Neil Gorsuch and Amy Coney Barrett, in the majority. "The president asserts the extraordinary power to unilaterally impose tariffs of unlimited amount, duration and scope," Roberts wrote. But the Trump administration "points to no statute" in which Congress has previously said that the language in IEEPA could apply to tariffs, he added. As such, "we hold that IEEPA does not authorize the president to impose tariffs," Roberts wrote. … It is a rare setback for the administration at the Supreme Court, which has a 6-3 conservative majority, since Trump began his second term in January. The decision does not affect all of Trump's tariffs, leaving in place ones he imposed on steel and aluminum using different laws, for example. But it upends his tariffs in two categories. One is country-by-country or “reciprocal” tariffs, which range from 34% for China to a 10% baseline for the rest of the world. The other is a 25% tariff Trump imposed on some goods from Canada, China and Mexico for what the administration said was their failure to curb the flow of fentanyl. Trump could seek to reimpose some tariffs, using other laws. Companies that had to pay the tariffs may be able to seek a refund from the Treasury Department. Hundreds havealready sued. The court did not directly address that issue, but Kavanaugh, in dissent, said the effect on the U.S. Treasury could be significant. "The Court says nothing today about whether, and if so how, the Government should go about returning the billions of dollars that it has collected from importers," he wrote. … https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-strikes-trumps-tariffs-major-blow-president-rcna244827 1 Quote
West Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 Wouldn't really consider it a "major blow". Conservatives just won and Democrats can't even see it yet 1 2 Quote
Popular Post ironstone Posted February 20 Popular Post Report Posted February 20 So...a man who is routinely labeled as a dictator...gets stopped by the Judicial branch of government? 3 1 1 Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
BeaverFever Posted February 20 Author Report Posted February 20 1 minute ago, West said: Wouldn't really consider it a "major blow". Conservatives just won and Democrats can't even see it yet Striking down his ridiculous and blatantly illegal “Liberation Day” tariffs which are one the centrepieces of his administration is definitely a major blow. Now the US government will have major financial problems returning the tariff taxes he illegally took from millions of Americans . Major blow indeed. 4 minutes ago, ironstone said: So...a man who is routinely labeled as a dictator...gets stopped by the Judicial branch of government? Yep, a year later, in a rare exception to the norm. Quote
Politics1990 Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 lol 3 of them still voted for it thomas and alito are crooked clowns. 1 Quote
West Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 Just now, BeaverFever said: Striking down his ridiculous and blatantly illegal “Liberation Day” tariffs which are one the centrepieces of his administration is definitely a major blow. Now the US government will have major financial problems returning the tariff taxes he illegally took from millions of Americans . Major blow indeed. Not really. The big ticket for conservatives is to end taxation. This ruling can now be used to target all sorts of Democrat policies like Covid mandates, taxation, etc. It restores the balance of power that's been lost under the previous administrations 2 Quote
Nationalist Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 3 minutes ago, West said: Not really. The big ticket for conservatives is to end taxation. This ruling can now be used to target all sorts of Democrat policies like Covid mandates, taxation, etc. It restores the balance of power that's been lost under the previous administrations Interesting take. I suppose that could become an issue. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
West Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 9 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Interesting take. I suppose that could become an issue. "If the prosecutor isnt fired you aren't getting the money" Joe Biden 1 Quote
Shady Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 Does that mean that libtards will accept the Supreme Court as legitimate again? LOL 27 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Striking down his ridiculous and blatantly illegal “Liberation Day” tariffs which are one the centrepieces of his administration is definitely a major blow. Now the US government will have major financial problems returning the tariff taxes he illegally took from millions of Americans . Major blow indeed. Yep, a year later, in a rare exception to the norm. But the Supreme Court does his bidding? LOL Quote
BeaverFever Posted February 20 Author Report Posted February 20 25 minutes ago, West said: Not really. The big ticket for conservatives is to end taxation. This ruling can now be used to target all sorts of Democrat policies like Covid mandates, taxation, etc. It restores the balance of power that's been lost under the previous administrations That makes ZERO sense. The tariffs were a new tax on Americans imposed by Trump. None of those has anything to do with non-existent COVID mandates 2 minutes ago, Shady said: Does that mean that libtards will accept the Supreme Court as legitimate again? LOL Does it mean MAGAtards will go back to claiming the Supreme Court is illegitimate again? 1 1 1 Quote
Legato Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 5 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Does it mean MAGAtards will go back to claiming the Supreme Court is illegitimate again? You mean like the Democrats and people like yourself do now? That aside, Tariffs in general are a bane on positive trading practices. Quote
Deluge Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 42 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Yep, a year later, in a rare exception to the norm. Do dictators ever have rare exceptions? Can you cite some examples? Quote
Deluge Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 56 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Supreme Court strikes down most of Trump's tariffs in a major blow to the president WASHINGTON — Delivering a major blow to President Donald Trump, the Supreme Court on Friday ruled that he exceeded his authority when imposing sweeping tariffs using a law reserved for a national emergency. The justices, divided 6-3, held that Trump's aggressive approach to tariffs on products entering the United States from across the world was not permitted under a 1977 law called the International Emergency Economic Powers Act (IEEPA). The ruling was authored by Chief Justice John Roberts, who was joined by three liberal justices and two fellow conservatives, Justices Neil Gorsuch and Amy Coney Barrett, in the majority. "The president asserts the extraordinary power to unilaterally impose tariffs of unlimited amount, duration and scope," Roberts wrote. But the Trump administration "points to no statute" in which Congress has previously said that the language in IEEPA could apply to tariffs, he added. As such, "we hold that IEEPA does not authorize the president to impose tariffs," Roberts wrote. … It is a rare setback for the administration at the Supreme Court, which has a 6-3 conservative majority, since Trump began his second term in January. The decision does not affect all of Trump's tariffs, leaving in place ones he imposed on steel and aluminum using different laws, for example. But it upends his tariffs in two categories. One is country-by-country or “reciprocal” tariffs, which range from 34% for China to a 10% baseline for the rest of the world. The other is a 25% tariff Trump imposed on some goods from Canada, China and Mexico for what the administration said was their failure to curb the flow of fentanyl. Trump could seek to reimpose some tariffs, using other laws. Companies that had to pay the tariffs may be able to seek a refund from the Treasury Department. Hundreds havealready sued. The court did not directly address that issue, but Kavanaugh, in dissent, said the effect on the U.S. Treasury could be significant. "The Court says nothing today about whether, and if so how, the Government should go about returning the billions of dollars that it has collected from importers," he wrote. … https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/supreme-court/supreme-court-strikes-trumps-tariffs-major-blow-president-rcna244827 "The president asserts the extraordinary power to unilaterally impose tariffs of unlimited amount, duration and scope," Roberts wrote. But the Trump administration "points to no statute" in which Congress has previously said that the language in IEEPA could apply to tariffs, he added." Which means Trump will just have to find another way. Quote
West Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 33 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: That makes ZERO sense. The tariffs were a new tax on Americans imposed by Trump. None of those has anything to do with non-existent COVID mandates Does it mean MAGAtards will go back to claiming the Supreme Court is illegitimate again? If China or corporations who are persons do not have to pay to move their goods why should other taxpayers? Discrimination 1 1 Quote
Shady Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 43 minutes ago, BeaverFever said: Does it mean MAGAtards will go back to claiming the Supreme Court is illegitimate again? You're making my point for me. 1 Quote
User Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 hour ago, BeaverFever said: Yep, a year later, in a rare exception to the norm. So... you admit anything you have said about him being a dictator was garbage? Quote
robosmith Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 2 hours ago, West said: Wouldn't really consider it a "major blow". Conservatives just won and Democrats can't even see it yet Trump disagrees, calls decision "disgraceful" LMAO Quote
robosmith Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 2 hours ago, ironstone said: So...a man who is routinely labeled as a dictator...gets stopped by the Judicial branch of government? You must have missed when Trump said he would be a dictator. LMAO Have you heard Trump saying he will respect the ruling and refund? Quote
robosmith Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 2 hours ago, West said: "If the prosecutor isnt fired you aren't getting the money" Joe Biden ^Imagines granting a loan is equivalent to an ILLEGAL tariff. LMAO Quote
User Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 minute ago, robosmith said: You must have missed when Trump said he would be a dictator. LMAO Have you heard Trump saying he will respect the ruling and refund? You are a liar as always. He said on day one in context meaning the Executive orders he would be issuing... This has been explained to you before. You just keep lying. And just because you claim you are something doesn't actually make you that thing. Just now, robosmith said: ^Imagines granting a loan is equivalent to an ILLEGAL tariff. LMAO No, but forgiving loans like he did was. Quote
robosmith Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 1 hour ago, Shady said: Does that mean that libtards will accept the Supreme Court as legitimate again? LOL But the Supreme Court does his bidding? LOL Not until Alito and Thomas are gone. I suppose you believe their corruption is AOK, right. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 2 hours ago, ironstone said: So...a man who is routinely labeled as a dictator...gets stopped by the Judicial branch of government? He wants to be a dictator. Only his own supporters or the wilfully ignorant can deny that. The courts have been a bigger obstacle than his own party to his obvious intent. Edited February 20 by SpankyMcFarland 2 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
Chrissy1979 Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 So companies have already passed the billion dollar cost of the tariff tax onto consumers, because they're weren't going to sell their products at a loss. Now they will recoup billions from taxpayers for the illegal tax charged to them. American consumers getting screwed both ways by elitist corporations and the government. It's almost like that's what they planned all along Quote
West Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: So companies have already passed the billion dollar cost of the tariff tax onto consumers, because they're weren't going to sell their products at a loss. Now they will recoup billions from taxpayers for the illegal tax charged to them. American consumers getting screwed both ways by elitist corporations and the government. It's almost like that's what they planned all along This would depend on elasticity of demand. Same with Democrat imposed carbon taxes. Edited February 20 by West Quote
WestCanMan Posted February 20 Report Posted February 20 Trump's tariffs scored their wins for the US, and it's also good that they're gone now. Also, it's good to see the co-equal branches functioning as they should. This is a big win for democracy, in an era when democracy was being throttled by liberals on both sides of the Canada/US border. We even had a win from the Senate here in Canada, if you can believe it, when they put an end to martial law under ayatollah Trudeau. 2 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: So companies have already passed the billion dollar cost of the tariff tax onto consumers, because they're weren't going to sell their products at a loss. Now they will recoup billions from taxpayers for the illegal tax charged to them. American consumers getting screwed both ways by elitist corporations and the government. It's almost like that's what they planned all along Quit, dummy. Inflation cause by the Dems and LPoC cost taxpayers 1,000 times as much money as US tariffs did. Quote If the Cultist Narrative Network/Cultist Broadcasting Corporation gave an infinite number of monkeys an infinite number of typewriters, leftists would believe everything they typed. "I don't hate American's, I pointed out the literacy rate to Uncle Sam." - LinkSoul "It's just a parable about rocks and trees talking to muslims to help them kill Jews who are trying to hide. It's open to interpretation." - robobigot
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