Legato Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 31 minutes ago, eyeball said: You'd have to be pretty sick in the head to imagine your malarkey not to mention thick as a brick to believe it. Yes the insults...pathetic. Get over your sick comments. Quote
herbie Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 The guns seized and returned were apparently the Mom's guns and she petitioned for them back. Unclear if there's a law that stops returning it if the owner isn't the one that's wacko. And the other two, used at the school they're trying to find out where they came from. It was nice to see all the party leaders show up and put aside politics to show support for those affected. The whole country stands with them as do so many leaders who sent condolences from around the world. Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 14 hours ago, I am Groot said: What the hell does it matter how he 'behaves'? It's his ideas that matter, not whether he's NICE. I would far rather have an ugly PM who's a mean SOB and has good ideas for the country than a pretty, sweet, laughing, friendly imbecile like the one we had. It’s not just style that divides us. We need to know the PM will stand up for Canada against the thugs in charge down south. 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
CdnFox Posted February 15 Author Report Posted February 15 1 hour ago, herbie said: The guns seized and returned were apparently the Mom's guns and she petitioned for them back. Unclear if there's a law that stops returning it if the owner isn't the one that's wacko. And the other two, used at the school they're trying to find out where they came from. It was nice to see all the party leaders show up and put aside politics to show support for those affected. The whole country stands with them as do so many leaders who sent condolences from around the world. That's the supposition but that hasn't been confirmed yet. We don't even know for sure which guns were used only the two were used in the home and two were used to the school have the one of the ones used at home was a shotgun. And we know at least two of the guns were never seized, the police have said that two of the guns were unregistered and had never been previously seized by police. So we'll have to wait and see what happened here 3 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: It’s not just style that divides us. We need to know the PM will stand up for Canada against the thugs in charge down south. But we already know he doesn't. He's giving trump everything you want and even when he takes the time to make it nasty speech about him he then gets on the phone with him and tells him he didn't really mean it. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 5 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's the supposition but that hasn't been confirmed yet. We don't even know for sure which guns were used only the two were used in the home and two were used to the school have the one of the ones used at home was a shotgun. And we know at least two of the guns were never seized, the police have said that two of the guns were unregistered and had never been previously seized by police. So we'll have to wait and see what happened here But we already know he doesn't. He's giving trump everything you want and even when he takes the time to make it nasty speech about him he then gets on the phone with him and tells him he didn't really mean it. I’m talking about Poilievre if he wants to run this country for any significant length of time. Some of the Tory support has a distinctly MAGA whiff off it - that much is obvious here. PP can take their votes but he has to distance himself from them if he wants to win and retain fiscally conservative, centrist voters. Harper’s lesson should not need to be relearned. Canada does not want the Reform Party under any label. 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
blackbird Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 1 hour ago, SpankyMcFarland said: I’m talking about Poilievre if he wants to run this country for any significant length of time. Some of the Tory support has a distinctly MAGA whiff off it - that much is obvious here. PP can take their votes but he has to distance himself from them if he wants to win and retain fiscally conservative, centrist voters. Harper’s lesson should not need to be relearned. Canada does not want the Reform Party under any label. Can you describe this MAGA whiff? Quote
SpankyMcFarland Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 56 minutes ago, blackbird said: Can you describe this MAGA whiff? Firstly, it’s the Vichyite searching for excuses for Trump’s behaviour. He was a bit over the top there but…You can see that in the NP and here constantly. And then there’s the indulgence of fringe ideas: crypto, convoys, anti-vaxxerism. 1 Quote ‘How small we make our worlds. Gather them in, tighten them up into little castles of fear.’
blackbird Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 (edited) 16 minutes ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Firstly, it’s the Vichyite searching for excuses for Trump’s behaviour. He was a bit over the top there but…You can see that in the NP and here constantly. And then there’s the indulgence of fringe ideas: crypto, convoys, anti-vaxxerism. Could you give an example of what you're talking about. I don't see it in PP speaking. From what I've seen, Trump is totally different. I am not familiar with crypto. Never heard PP advocating it. But nobody is forced to get involved in crypto and I don't think the Conservative Party is advocating anybody get involved in it. At least I never heard of it. Convoys. He did support the truck convoy because it is freedom of speech and exercising the right to protest. Conservatives support individual human rights which includes freedom of protest and oppose some government over reach or authoritarianism. Freedom is liberty; the opposite is authoritarianism such as Communism. The court recently ruled Trudeau and his government broke the Constitution on that by declaring the Emergency Act. I think what PP is saying on vaccination is that they support the right of individuals to choose whether or not they should be vaccinated. I wouldn't say that is anti-vax. It is anti coercion. If someone freely chooses to be vaccinated, I don't think PP opposes that. Do we really want a Communist state where masses of people are forced to be medicated? I don't think so. This has nothing to do with Trump. It is just standing up for individual freedom of choice. Edited February 15 by blackbird 1 Quote
ExFlyer Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 (edited) 15 hours ago, CdnFox said: He doesn't need any more. Why are you afraid of Poilievre? I mean you think about him night and day, he obviously scares the bejesus out of you, if he's so bad why aren't you happy? How sad if that is all you got to add to this discussion of the mass shooting in Tumbler Ridge.. keep on going off topic...even if it is your own HA HA HA PP does not scare me at all, as a matter of fact the only thing scary about PP is his groupies Why are you so afraid to Carney?? He is doing something not just complaining LOL. Oh yeah, doing something scares you because PP is doing nothing LOL Edited February 15 by ExFlyer Quote You are entitled to your opinion, but you are not entitled to tell me what mine should be.
eyeball Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 8 hours ago, blackbird said: I think what PP is saying on vaccination is that they support the right of individuals to choose whether or not they should be vaccinated. I wouldn't say that is anti-vax. It is anti coercion. If someone freely chooses to be vaccinated, I don't think PP opposes that. Everyone always had the choice to be vaccinated or not. The problem is that PP, like MAGA, opposed measures that kept unvaccinated people away from vulnerable people. 1 1 Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Legato Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 2 hours ago, eyeball said: vulnerable people. Who were? Quote
eyeball Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 1 minute ago, Legato said: Who were? Anyone liable to harm. So that would be everyone. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Shady Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 2 hours ago, eyeball said: Everyone always had the choice to be vaccinated or not. The problem is that PP, like MAGA, opposed measures that kept unvaccinated people away from vulnerable people. Complete nonsense. Quote
eyeball Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 1 minute ago, Shady said: Complete nonsense. What part? You cleary had a choice and yes PP opposed vaccine mandates. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Legato Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 6 minutes ago, eyeball said: Anyone liable to harm. So that would be everyone. Which are? Quote
eyeball Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 Just now, Legato said: Which are? Do you have dyslexia? Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Legato Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 Just now, eyeball said: Do you have dyslexia? So you no idea, thought not. Quote
eyeball Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 Just now, Legato said: So you no idea, thought not. Hmmm. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
Shady Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 7 minutes ago, eyeball said: What part? You cleary had a choice and yes PP opposed vaccine mandates. You said he opposed ways to keep unvaccinated people away from vulnerable people. Now you’re talking about mandates. You’re not making any sense. Quote
I am Groot Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 13 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: It’s not just style that divides us. We need to know the PM will stand up for Canada against the thugs in charge down south. Any politician will stand up for his own benefit, and that's all we're talking about here. 20 hours ago, User said: Who says you get a gun? If you don't like guns because they are more deadly, you are gonna be walking around unarmed. I HAVE a gun. I never said I didn't like them. I said I didn't like crazy people having them. 1 Quote "A civilization is not destroyed by wicked men; it is destroyed by weak men who cannot defend what is good.” — G. K. Chesterton
herbie Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 Can you guys possibly EVER keep on subject? Quote
User Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 5 hours ago, eyeball said: Everyone always had the choice to be vaccinated or not. The problem is that PP, like MAGA, opposed measures that kept unvaccinated people away from vulnerable people. This is such dishonest garbage. Mandated federal employees must do so, mandated that those in transportation must do so, mandated that if you wanted to travel on public transit you had to, this is not even counting all the additional regulations across each province that further forced vaccine mandates on people in numerous ways. It was a "choice" in as much if you wanted to have any kind of life or job and not live in your basement and hope you did not go bankrupt or ever need health care or anything or go anywhere... Quote
User Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 5 hours ago, eyeball said: Everyone always had the choice to be vaccinated or not. The problem is that PP, like MAGA, opposed measures that kept unvaccinated people away from vulnerable people. This is such dishonest garbage. Mandated federal employees must do so, mandated that those in transportation must do so, mandated that if you wanted to travel on public transit you had to, this is not even counting all the additional regulations across each province that further forced vaccine mandates on people in numerous ways. It was a "choice" in as much if you wanted to have any kind of life or job and not live in your basement and hope you did not go bankrupt or ever need health care or anything or go anywhere... Quote
ironstone Posted February 15 Report Posted February 15 14 hours ago, SpankyMcFarland said: Firstly, it’s the Vichyite searching for excuses for Trump’s behaviour. He was a bit over the top there but…You can see that in the NP and here constantly. And then there’s the indulgence of fringe ideas: crypto, convoys, anti-vaxxerism. The things you listed aren't exactly 'fringe'. Over half a billion people world-wide trade in crypto. I assume you're referring to the Freedom Convoy, and that wasn't fringe, it was in the name, freedom. As for the anti-vax angle, people do have the right to be skeptical and concerned about the vax. The powers that be did lie to the public about efficacy and potential side effects. Given the topic of this thread, why don't you compare the Conservative and Liberal policies with regards to gender ideology? One side has a fringe view, and it isn't the Conservatives. Quote Beware the Brookfield industrial complex...
eyeball Posted February 16 Report Posted February 16 5 hours ago, Shady said: You said he opposed ways to keep unvaccinated people away from vulnerable people. Mandates IOW. 5 hours ago, Shady said: Now you’re talking about mandates. You’re not making any sense. LMAO! Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
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