Moonlight Graham Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 8 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: WW2 began because of Treaty of Versailles punishment and UK appeasement. Different logic and circumstances. The U.S. has sought Greenland many times in the past. WW2 began because one powerful country thought they had the right to invade and/or annex all the other countries in their sphere of influence for their own national self-interests. The logic is exactly the same. You're just another Republican warmonger. Someone dig up FDR please. 2 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
Nationalist Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 4 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Did you just move the goalposts to avoid the question? Is “invading and occupying” a better description for you? Why would the USA need to invade and occupy Greenland in order to defend it from the Russians? No. Nobody stole jack...Jack. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Nationalist Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said: Hey congrats you're illiterate and call other people liars when you can't read. No wait, you're just a Russian bot right? You're the one who thinks the Trump admin didn't just threaten Greenland with military action. Did they? Where? Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
TreeBeard Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Nationalist said: No. Nobody stole jack...Jack. Why would the USA need to be in control of Greenland (whether it’s stealing, invading or buying) in order to protect Greenland? 4 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Did they? Where? Really? The White House said on Tuesday: "The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilising the US military is always an option at the commander-in-chief's disposal."https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyg1jg8xkmo Edited January 8 by TreeBeard 1 Quote
Moonlight Graham Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, Nationalist said: Did they? Where? https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/06/politics/us-options-greenland-military or for those here like User who are illiterate: 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 2 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: WW2 began because one powerful country thought they had the right to invade and/or annex all the other countries in their sphere of influence for their own national self-interests. The logic is exactly the same. You're just another Republican warmonger. Might does not make right...it just makes. I am not a Republican (or Democrat)...never have been. If you like insults...Canada is one of the biggest NATO deadbeats. "War is the continuation of policy by other means" - Carl von Clausewitz Quote Someone dig up FDR please. Great....more fascist policies and internment of citizens. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 How much is Greenland worth ? Checking Zillow.com and the New York Times, from $12.5 to $77 billion (USD). That's about $24 per square km to $144 per square km. Cheap ! Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
Moonlight Graham Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 52 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Might does not make right...it just makes. Easy to say from your La-Z-boy when the world's largest military power isn't threatening to annex your country when you've done nothing to them but be a friendly ally you ignorant American pr!ck. 52 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: I am not a Republican (or Democrat)...never have been. If you like insults...Canada is one of the biggest NATO deadbeats. Lol who are kidding? You haven't voted Democrat since Stephen A. Douglas you old fart. 52 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: "War is the continuation of policy by other means" - Carl von Clausewitz "Why has government been instituted at all? Because the passions of men will not conform to the dictates of reason and justice, without constraint." - Alexander Hamilton, Federalist Papers 52 minutes ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Great....more fascist policies and internment of citizens. Makes Trump look like the Dalai Lama. Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
robosmith Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 5 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Trump was impeached twice...still served a full term...now on his second. So what? Not convicted has nothing to do with what I said. 5 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Supreme Court said it is legal. Are you trying to say that you believe breaking the law is part of the POTUS official duties? "Faithfully executed" says IT'S NOT. Quote
eyeball Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 On 1/6/2026 at 12:11 PM, Michael Hardner said: What cards does the US intend to play here, if any ? I'm wondering what cards normal people have left to play. Neil Young wrote Ohio 11 days after the Kent State massacre. Today Trump plays 60's era anti-war / administration music at his rallies. This must be what the Chinese Curse about interesting times looks like from the inside. I'm old enough now the view from here suits me just fine. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
cougar Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Might does not make right...it just makes. I am not a Republican (or Democrat)...never have been. If you like insults...Canada is one of the biggest NATO deadbeats. "War is the continuation of policy by other means" - Carl von Clausewitz Great....more fascist policies and internment of citizens. You are not yet ashamed by the arrogant, unintelligent and fat convict that your nation elected? With choices like him , we are up for WW3. Enjoy the nukes when they start falling! And all for nothing! Quote
User Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 3 hours ago, Moonlight Graham said: or for those here like User who are illiterate: What about it? Still not what you said. 1 Quote
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said: Easy to say from your La-Z-boy when the world's largest military power isn't threatening to annex your country when you've done nothing to them but be a friendly ally you ignorant American pr!ck. Thank you...it's a dirty job but somebody has to do it. NATO loves the American pricks when it suites "collective defence", especially deadbeat members like Canada. Quote Lol who are kidding? You haven't voted Democrat since Stephen A. Douglas you old fart. No, last time was Jimmy Carter in 1976, and we all know how that worked out. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 1 hour ago, robosmith said: Are you trying to say that you believe breaking the law is part of the POTUS official duties? Yes...that is exactly what I am saying when it comes to foreign policy and national security. It is part of the job description, and all presidents have done so, even Honest Abe. Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
bush_cheney2004 Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 1 hour ago, cougar said: You are not yet ashamed by the arrogant, unintelligent and fat convict that your nation elected? With choices like him , we are up for WW3. Enjoy the nukes when they start falling! And all for nothing! No, why would I be ? The American electorate chose Trump by a decisive margin, despite his arrogance and convictions. President Trump is doing what he campaigned to do as the next American president. Canada and Europe can criticize, but they don't get a choice. Falling nukes do not scare me...been there...done that (Cold War). Quote Economics trumps Virtue.
cougar Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 1 hour ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Falling nukes do not scare me...been there...done that (Cold War). You ain't been there yet. Reagan had some brains unlike Trump. Quote
Nationalist Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 7 hours ago, TreeBeard said: Why would the USA need to be in control of Greenland (whether it’s stealing, invading or buying) in order to protect Greenland? Really? The White House said on Tuesday: "The president and his team are discussing a range of options to pursue this important foreign policy goal, and of course, utilising the US military is always an option at the commander-in-chief's disposal."https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwyg1jg8xkmo Not to protect Greenland. To manage the northern passage. This is not a threat. Its an initial negotiation position. Man...do you always fold so easily? Stay away from poker games. Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
John Stone Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 Greenland is extremely strategic to any global power - but especially so for those superpowers hoping to dominate EV. The thing is, Greenland is a treasure trove of rare earth minerals possessing some of the World's largest untapped reserves - critical for modern tech and clean energy transitions. As of 2025 Greenland's reserves in REE are est. at 1.5 million metric tons - making it a strategic alternative to China's dominance in global supply. Strategically, I'd agree that the Venezuela gambit in pursuit of oil is a loser (global leverage notwithstanding). It will take years for Venezuela's oil infrastructure to be rebuilt - and security would have to be a nightmare ....... extending the timeline. Trump has provided incentives for U.S. big oil to invest in Venezuela but I'd say the risk in terms of political stability makes it a bridge too far. If I was eyeing geo-conquest I'd def be eyeing Greenland - it represents the future - oil the past. Quote
paxamericana Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 56 minutes ago, John Stone said: If I was eyeing geo-conquest I'd def be eyeing Greenland - it represents the future - oil the past. And Canada! Just for fun. Quote
John Stone Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 24 minutes ago, paxamericana said: And Canada! Just for fun. Canadian beaver are def fun ........ they can gnaw on my wood anytime. 1 Quote
robosmith Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 12 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No, last time was Jimmy Carter in 1976, and we all know how that worked out. The worst thing about Carter's Presidency is that it gave us Ronald Raygun. Spent $billions on "star wars" while making the FAILED promise of deployment in 3 years. Quote
robosmith Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 12 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: Yes...that is exactly what I am saying when it comes to foreign policy and national security. It is part of the job description, and all presidents have done so, even Honest Abe. The job description as detailed in the Constitution is to "take care that the LAWS are FAILTHFULLY EXECUTED" which is diametrically opposed to breaking those LAWS. Duh 11 hours ago, bush_cheney2004 said: No, why would I be ? The American electorate chose Trump by a decisive margin, despite his arrogance and convictions. President Trump is doing what he campaigned to do as the next American president. Canada and Europe can criticize, but they don't get a choice. Falling nukes do not scare me...been there...done that (Cold War). Your appeal to popularity FALLACY is VERY LAME. Quote
robosmith Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 7 hours ago, Nationalist said: Not to protect Greenland. To manage the northern passage. This is not a threat. Its an initial negotiation position. Man...do you always fold so easily? Stay away from poker games. ^More defense of Trump's PATHOLOGICAL LIES. 🤮 1 Quote
robosmith Posted January 8 Author Report Posted January 8 6 hours ago, John Stone said: Greenland is extremely strategic to any global power - but especially so for those superpowers hoping to dominate EV. The thing is, Greenland is a treasure trove of rare earth minerals possessing some of the World's largest untapped reserves - critical for modern tech and clean energy transitions. As of 2025 Greenland's reserves in REE are est. at 1.5 million metric tons - making it a strategic alternative to China's dominance in global supply. Strategically, I'd agree that the Venezuela gambit in pursuit of oil is a loser (global leverage notwithstanding). It will take years for Venezuela's oil infrastructure to be rebuilt - and security would have to be a nightmare ....... extending the timeline. Trump has provided incentives for U.S. big oil to invest in Venezuela but I'd say the risk in terms of political stability makes it a bridge too far. If I was eyeing geo-conquest I'd def be eyeing Greenland - it represents the future - oil the past. Except that forced acquisition of Greenland would be a political firestorm. Just watching POV "Winter's Yearning" about ALCOA USA promising an Aluminum plant in a city in Greenland years ago. At first the town celebrated but 15 years later they are STILL WAITING for construction to begin. Quote
Legato Posted January 8 Report Posted January 8 8 minutes ago, robosmith said: ^More defense of Trump's PATHOLOGICAL LIES. 🤮 Once again you stray from the logical path. Quote
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