Potential for the Liberal government to fall in a matter of weeks.

[blackbird]

Both the Conservatives and the Bloc are warning the government that they have certain demands for the Liberal's budget coming out in early November.  If these demands are not met, there is a possibility that the budget would be defeated which means the government falls and an election must be held.

This could be good news if the Conservatives win.  The Conservatives may abandon the no more pipelines law, the tanker ban, and other things that are keeping Canada from building a pipeline to the BC north coast and from becoming an energy superpower.  More pipelines could bring in billions of dollars to help fight the federal deficit and have more money for various government priorities.  It could create thousands of jobs for Canadians.  Carney is not willing to do it.  Carney could save his government if he would agree to some central Conservative demands such as making Canada an energy superpower and keeping the deficit down, but I don't see any sign of it happening.

Liberals 'worry' over potential election after Bloc, Conservative budget demands

 

Edited October 21, 2025 by blackbird

[eyeball]

26 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Both the Conservatives and the Bloc are warning the government that they have certain demands for the Liberal's budget coming out in early November.  If these demands are not met, there is a possibility that the budget would be defeated which means the government falls and an election must be held.

Or they'll both make a big show of whining about it then abstain from voting so they don't have to pick themselves up after the fall either.

Drama queens need to dramatize.

[Army Guy]

I hope that is not true, i just don't have enough time to be rubbing liberals noses in a loss, it would take all my time....i mean just take all those heads exploding in the streets , who is going to clean up all that Sh!t, see what i did there Sh!t for brains , heads exploding, ya you get it.......`

anyways i'm not up for it, Conservative's would be parting like it was 1999, there would be no booze any where, they would be rounding up what was left of the lefties and deporting them to Gaza for the rebuild....

Liberals would be asking for MAID in record numbers....drug use would spike so liberal's could cope.... and lets not even get into the PP haters....crap they would be falling from the skys with no parachutes....in the cities....we would be up to our bellies in crap....

But the next day after the clean up, conservative polices would start to undo the liberal mistakes over the last 10 plus years.....Justin would be locked up, in a semi trailer with glass walls that would tour the country so conservatives could throw rotten vegetables at him for 10 bucks a throw...we could solve the deficit with just one cross country tour...

It is just to much work right now, maybe next year when we are all ready for the parting and round up...

 

Edited October 22, 2025 by Army Guy

[herbie]

Yeah, like turkeys are looking forward to an early Christmas!

Fever dreams of rabid PP supporters.

[Nefarious Banana]

The Conservatives need a leader.  It's obvious that Pierre Poilievre is not that person. He's a pitbull on the floor of the Commons, but he seems to be losing his focus, concentrating on all the past Justin Trudeau damage.

Conservatives need a leader . . .

[Moonlight Graham]

We could only hope the Liberal government falls.   The problem is their replacement is led by a guy whose soundbites sound like bad twitter memes while he sells snake oil.  PP belongs on a bad university student union council, and so did Trudeau.  There's no adults in the room except Carney, just too bad he has zero political experience and his party is ruled by an unelected faceless committee of smug entitled brats in a backroom somewhere.

I would be all in favour of having no government at all to get rid of all these dolts out of our lives, except no laws mean all the goons in society, from the rich and big businesses to your neighborhood criminal, can't be held in check.  Unfortunately our government is led by goons as well.  Oh the conundrum!  The cracks are starting to show...

 

[CdnFox]

5 hours ago, eyeball said:

Or they'll both make a big show of whining about it then abstain from voting so they don't have to pick themselves up after the fall either.

Drama queens need to dramatize.

They won't. And once again you're wrong showing both your lack of political knowledge and a willingness to lie

Both of them could go to the polls now if they needed to, and although I doubt they would win they might make Carney's minority government a lot more of a minority. Carnie has failed to deliver

However I think it will be the NDP who once again saves the day and props up the liberals. Which is not what they will want to do but they will hope that putting in a new leader will hit reset and the public will forgive them this one time

[Politics1990]

i mean if they dumb to do that now  the libs get a majority lol PP is losing it and needs to have a regroup  . he has a chance in 18 months-2 years but now he would lose and get booted lol. either way im done with both partys and would be voting ndp anyway

[Venandi]

1 hour ago, Politics1990 said:

....the libs get a majority lol PP is losing it and needs to have a regroup 

You may be on to something there.

The Conservative government in NS has offered less than nothing in terms of resisting the gun grab trial in CB. By all accounts, municipal police forces are assisting the effort and our MLA is remarkably unrepentant about all aspects of the parties submissive position. Funny enough, even a weak sister effort would have been appreciated.

I previously considered single issue voting to be a mistake and I do try not to equate provincial conservatives with their federal counterparts,  but (BUT)... I've now reached the saturation point and will be joining that esteemed cadre of single issue voters in the next election and I'll drag as many folks as I can along with me.

It's PPC only now and I'll happily split the conservative vote until the message resonates. In the mean time, the country can groan under the liberals (with my blessings) until it screams Uncle, passes PNR and/or Coriolis Effect tightens the swirl of water going down the drain to a raging torrent.

Well deserved IMO, I've concluded that experience is the only teacher that will resonate here. Besides, I'm kind of curious to see how much is enough for the average person, or in this case, how much is too much. 

 

 

Edited October 22, 2025 by Venandi

[Barquentine]

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

the gun grab trial in CB.

The "gun grab" in Cape Breton is  a federal pilot project for the "Assault style firearms compensation program" which began in September 2025. It is a voluntary program where owners of newly-prohibited firearms can declare their firearms and receive compensation for turning them in.

Voluntary.

Assault weapons.

Do you hunt rabbits or deer with a machine gun?

[Venandi]

37 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

The "gun grab" in Cape Breton is  a federal pilot project for the "Assault style firearms compensation program" which began in September 2025.

Thanks, I have a passing acquaintance with the concepts here.

That said, I can't help but wonder if you know (without looking it up) the difference between an assault rifle, a battle rifle and an assault style rifle. I'll even settle for how many militaries (world wide) you believe issue AR-15s with 5 round magazines to their soldiers.

37 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Do you hunt rabbits or deer with a machine gun?

I based that question on your arrogant, self serving and ill informed question above. The answer as you probably already guessed is no. In fact, on the rare occasion that I do hunt them (for pest control purposes BTW as I happen to like bunnies), I use a recurve bow.

Certainly wouldn't want you to think I need one of those "assault style compound bows" with the range pins and peep sights on it.

Here's another question for you, what was the last year a rabbit could legally be killed with a "machine gun" in Canada?

Edited October 22, 2025 by Venandi

[Politics1990]

1 hour ago, Venandi said:

You may be on to something there.

The Conservative government in NS has offered less than nothing in terms of resisting the gun grab trial in CB. By all accounts, municipal police forces are assisting the effort and our MLA is remarkably unrepentant about all aspects of the parties submissive position. Funny enough, even a weak sister effort would have been appreciated.

I previously considered single issue voting to be a mistake and I do try not to equate provincial conservatives with their federal counterparts,  but (BUT)... I've now reached the saturation point and will be joining that esteemed cadre of single issue voters in the next election and I'll drag as many folks as I can along with me.

It's PPC only now and I'll happily split the conservative vote until the message resonates. In the mean time, the country can groan under the liberals (with my blessings) until it screams Uncle, passes PNR and/or Coriolis Effect tightens the swirl of water going down the drain to a raging torrent.

Well deserved IMO, I've concluded that experience is the only teacher that will resonate here. Besides, I'm kind of curious to see how much is enough for the average person, or in this case, how much is too much. 

 

 

one of the only good things  the libs  done lol. less guns the better

[Venandi]

Just now, Politics1990 said:

one of the only good things  the libs  done lol. less guns the better

Why is there a LOL in there?

 

[blackbird]

2 hours ago, Venandi said:

It's PPC only now and I'll happily split the conservative vote

Wow!   The only party you are helping is the Liberals.  PPC has no chance and is a complete wasted vote.

[blackbird]

13 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

The Conservatives need a leader.  It's obvious that Pierre Poilievre is not that person. He's a pitbull on the floor of the Commons, but he seems to be losing his focus, concentrating on all the past Justin Trudeau damage.

Conservatives need a leader . . .

No.   Watch the CBC House of Commons Question Period and you will see PP attacks the Liberals constantly for all kinds of issues especially the high cost of living for Canadians.  He is right on. 

Maybe you have been listening to other party's comments or the liberal mainstream media's liberal propaganda.

[blackbird]

3 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

either way im done with both partys and would be voting ndp anyway

Wasted vote.  The NDP can't do anything and have nothing positive to offer.   All the NDP wants is to spend, spend, spend which would not be helpful at all.

[Politics1990]

Just now, blackbird said:

Wasted vote.  The NDP can't do anything and have nothing positive to offer.   All the NDP wants is to spend, spend, spend which would not be helpful at all.

yea spend on things to help people while the other 2 partys  do nothing lmao.   thanks for advice but i think i will vote for the party who hasnt had a shot yet over 2 clown partys that just take turns  messing up the country

[Venandi]

10 minutes ago, blackbird said:

The only party you are helping is the Liberals.  PPC has no chance and is a complete wasted vote.

Ya, admittedly it's a bit sad but I can't help but think it's past time to send a message and I'm now willing to hold my nose and swallow the damage liberals will inflict on the masses. In the longterm, I can only hope it eventually resonates. 

In the same vein, I now think the only answer to trans athletes in women's sports is for young ladies to walk off the field and refuse to participate. It's unfortunate to be sure and not a conclusion I came to lightly.

 

Edited October 22, 2025 by Venandi

[blackbird]

17 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

yea spend on things to help people

It doesn't help the people when the NDP/Liberals spend like maniacs and run Canada deep into debt.  Now expected to approach 60 billion dollars.  Interest must be paid on the debt by the taxpayers.  That means less money available for all the services.  Less money for services because we the taxpayers are forced to pay the interest on the debt.  At some point the government will be forced to start cutting back on services to pay for interest on the debt and pay down the debt itself or we will never recover.

All that means it is impossible to bring in new social programs like Pharmacare and increased spending on our failing health care system.  All that has happened under the Liberal-NDP coalition is the cost of living has gone up, two million people depend on food banks, the cost of homes has gone through the roof,  rent is out of sight, and the health care has got worse.  The NDP would only make everything worse.

Edited October 22, 2025 by blackbird

[Venandi]

17 minutes ago, blackbird said:

All that has happened under the Liberal-NDP coalition is the cost of living has gone up, two million people depend on food banks, the cost of homes has gone through the roof,  rent is out of sight, and the health care has got worse.  The NDP would only make everything worse.

That's exactly what people need to experience in greater measure IMO. I foolishly thought the current state of affairs was bad enough... it clearly isn't and more pain is required. 

The downside here is that we've charged into areas that will take decades to undo and we haven't even started the undo process yet. Based in part on opinions here on the forum, I now see no antidote but prolonged pain that rises to the level of agony.

It needs to get much worse and the sooner we get started the sooner we'll get through it... 

Edited October 22, 2025 by Venandi

[Nefarious Banana]

28 minutes ago, blackbird said:

No.   Watch the CBC House of Commons Question Period and you will see PP attacks the Liberals constantly for all kinds of issues especially the high cost of living for Canadians.  He is right on. 

Maybe you have been listening to other party's comments or the liberal mainstream media's liberal propaganda.

Poilievre is done . . . sadly.

And yes, I do watch Question Period now and then.

And, don't quote endless religious propaganda just because I disagree with you.

[LinkSoul60]

The thread title is akin to moving Christmas to July.  It's not happening...

If an election was held this quickly we'd have a liberal majority.  Poilievre never was and never will be the guy Canadian's want leading the country. He's making sure of that every time he opens his mouth.

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, Nefarious Banana said:

And, don't quote endless religious propaganda just because I disagree with you.

I don't quote "propaganda".   Since we are on a discussion forum, and you are on that vein now, what is your final authority for truth on eternal spiritual matters?  Do you have any source for truth?

Edited October 22, 2025 by blackbird

[Nefarious Banana]

1 minute ago, blackbird said:

I don't quote "propaganda".   Since you are on that vein now, what is your final authority for truth on eternal spiritual matters?

None of your f'kn buisness.

[blackbird]

18 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

None of your f'kn buisness.

In other words you have no source of truth or final authority.  That explains your comments and why you resent someone who dares to express their beliefs.  

You should remember we supposedly live in a free society where everyone is free to believe in what they want and express their opinions freely.

Edited October 22, 2025 by blackbird