CdnFox Posted October 6, 2025 Report Posted October 6, 2025 Oh how we've fallen. Even Quatar beat us.   Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Michael Hardner Posted October 6, 2025 Report Posted October 6, 2025 Qatar is so rich that they give away JETS 😯 1 Quote  Looks like someone has a new patronizing catch phrase ! Michael Hardner
cougar Posted October 6, 2025 Report Posted October 6, 2025 2 hours ago, CdnFox said: Oh how we've fallen. Even Quatar beat us.   Yep. Sometimes I think it must be me dragging the whole country down. Ever since I came, quality of life and affordability went down the drain.  In contrast the standard of life in the country I came from went up big time! Must be me.😕 1 Quote
CdnFox Posted October 6, 2025 Author Report Posted October 6, 2025 29 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said: Qatar is so rich that they give away JETS 😯 And we're so poor all we have to give away is our tariffs  LOLOL We need to be more like Qatar 27 minutes ago, cougar said: Yep. Sometimes I think it must be me dragging the whole country down. Ever since I came, quality of life and affordability went down the drain.  In contrast the standard of life in the country I came from went up big time! Must be me.😕 It's possible there are other factors. But I'm sure it played a role  LOL Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
cannuck Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 (edited) The tremendous success of the Little Turd and his band of brothers (and sisters). The Drivel...er...LIBERAL party was once a reasonably balanced, middle of the spectrum party that screwed up on par with the Torries. When they abandoned Whig principals and tried to out-commie the New Hypo...er...sorry DEMOCRATS by moving deep into DEI it was the swan song for what was once a country to be proud of. He just finished what his old man started. Edited October 7, 2025 by cannuck Quote
cannuck Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 (edited) 4 minutes ago, cannuck said: oops, pushed wrong button  Edited October 7, 2025 by cannuck Quote
Shady Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 10 years of Liberal governance has put us in severe decline. Yet we keep electing them. We get what we deserve. 1 Quote
Chrissy1979 Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 What poll are you looking at? Looks like we're fifth to me https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/quality-of-life Quote
CdnFox Posted October 7, 2025 Author Report Posted October 7, 2025 1 hour ago, Chrissy1979 said: What poll are you looking at? Looks like we're fifth to me https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/quality-of-life That's just a random poll of a thousand people or more. You call maybe 10 people in each country you don' tget very accurate results  Actual calculations involve measuring the gdp per capita and a few other things (and you'll see your 'poll' got that totally screwed up) Gdp per capita is the prime inidicator of quality of life as it addresses two important things: how much the wealth of the country can be divided up and how much tax per person the gov't could theoretically charge. Those two things measure disposable income and how much service a gov't can provide.  If you understood this a two second glance at your link would have made you realize you were posting trash  There's a couple of other measurements that basically adjust the numbers slightly. For example numbeo has us at 27 Quality of Life Index by Country 2025 Mid-Year But at the end of the day there's no doubt we've fallen very badly and are no where near the top 10 any more. 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Chrissy1979 Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 12 minutes ago, CdnFox said: That's just a random poll of a thousand people or more. You call maybe 10 people in each country you don' tget very accurate results  Actual calculations involve measuring the gdp per capita and a few other things (and you'll see your 'poll' got that totally screwed up) Gdp per capita is the prime inidicator of quality of life as it addresses two important things: how much the wealth of the country can be divided up and how much tax per person the gov't could theoretically charge. Those two things measure disposable income and how much service a gov't can provide.  If you understood this a two second glance at your link would have made you realize you were posting trash  There's a couple of other measurements that basically adjust the numbers slightly. For example numbeo has us at 27 Quality of Life Index by Country 2025 Mid-Year But at the end of the day there's no doubt we've fallen very badly and are no where near the top 10 any more. I’m supposed to reject U.S. News and World Report and accept your Serbian, crowd-sourced online poll instead? 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 30 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: I’m supposed to reject U.S. News and World Report and accept your Serbian, crowd-sourced online poll instead? Yes Chrissy, because it supports his narrative.  Anonymous crowd-sourced survey answers with no verification checks are problematic for a number of reasons, and nobody should be quoting numbeo statistics for any sort of even semi-serious debate. According to numbeo, Chicago is roughly on par with Tijuana for crime index, despite a homicide rate for the former being 1/5th to 1/6th that of the latter. All this really tells you is that there are more online Karens and Andies sharing their opinions on one place over the other. It's about as reliable as user-reviews on Rotten Tomatoes. Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
CdnFox Posted October 7, 2025 Author Report Posted October 7, 2025 (edited) 2 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: I’m supposed to reject U.S. News and World Report and accept your Serbian, crowd-sourced online poll instead? You got that backwards  Yours was the online poll  The one i posted was based on math. But of course i don't expect facts or common sense to hold you back from your delusions  The funniest part of that was your suggestion the US news is accurate and unbias  LOLOL As i pointed out your example shows the GDP per capita of the countries and right off the bad you can see the poll is not accurate vs reality based on the actual numbers. Edited October 7, 2025 by CdnFox 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted October 7, 2025 Author Report Posted October 7, 2025 1 hour ago, Moonbox said: Yes Chrissy, because it supports his narrative.   Awwww look at you chasing me around again but now you're too scared to address me directly  Small shock  It's hilarious that having lost the respect of everyone on this board you now are resigned to looking at chrissy as your intellectual equal 😆😆😆😆 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
CdnFox Posted October 7, 2025 Author Report Posted October 7, 2025 Here's numerous calculations, we come up short no matter what the method. We're 33 overall here Standard of Living by Country 2025 The only model anywhere that has us anywhere close to the top 10 is the on "us news" survey and it's quite obvious it's useless when you look at the methodology Swing and a miss 1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Chrissy1979 Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 5 minutes ago, CdnFox said: You got that backwards  Yours was the online poll  The one i posted was based on math. But of course i don't expect facts or common sense to hold you back from your delusions  The funniest part of that was your suggestion the US news is accurate and unbias  LOLOL As i pointed out your example shows the GDP per capita of the countries and right off the bad you can see the poll is not accurate vs reality based on the actual numbers. Numbeo's data is crowd-sourced. Do you know what that means? It means it can be inserted or altered by anyone accessing the website, and it is not peer-reviewed. Quote
CdnFox Posted October 7, 2025 Author Report Posted October 7, 2025 2 minutes ago, Chrissy1979 said: Numbeo's data is crowd-sourced. Do you know what that means? It means it can be inserted or altered by anyone accessing the website, and it is not peer-reviewed. Nobody said it was peer reviewed. But it's proven to be accurate and has been trusted by many sources for many years. the effort it would take to put in false information large enough to actually move the dial at all would be enormous. Meanwhile we KNOW polling like the news did is inaccurate. And it lines up with the known gdp per capita, which is a pretty hard figure. Here List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita - Wikipedia As i noted gdp per capita is one of the biggest indicators. It's not the ONLY one but it's pretty important. Canada places between 16 and 20 there depending on the year etc. So that's a lot closer to 27 than 5  In addition we can see it's been dropping, so that does match up with the idea we've slid. An we've especially been falling short compared to other countries. As you can see since 2015 we've been losing ground to the US, but now it's really horrible. And 2025 is shaping up to be worse.  So all the evidence points to the fact that numero and others like them are fairly accurate. We've slipped horribly and are continuing to slide and our quality of life is nosediving with it.  1 Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Moonbox Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Awwww look at you chasing me around again but now you're too scared to address me directly  Small shock  It's hilarious that having lost the respect of everyone on this board you now are resigned to looking at chrissy as your intellectual equal 😆😆😆😆 If I was scared I wouldn't respond to you, would I? I don't need to add much though when Chrissy has already dunked on you with a one-liner.  If you wanted to have an intelligent, nuanced discussion about Canada losing ground on productivity and standard of living, that'd be neat, and we'd probably actually agree on a lot of things. Instead, you're just regurgitating the click-bait the algorithm feeds you. Citing numbeo...ffs. Maybe you have some wikipedia sources to add?  🤣 Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
Shady Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 5 hours ago, Chrissy1979 said: What poll are you looking at? Looks like we're fifth to me https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/quality-of-life How do they calculate quality of life?  Because even based on your poll, Canada is last in GDP per capita compared to other top 10 countries, and Canada is one of the least affordable. 1 hour ago, CdnFox said: Nobody said it was peer reviewed. But it's proven to be accurate and has been trusted by many sources for many years. the effort it would take to put in false information large enough to actually move the dial at all would be enormous. Meanwhile we KNOW polling like the news did is inaccurate. And it lines up with the known gdp per capita, which is a pretty hard figure. Here List of countries by GDP (nominal) per capita - Wikipedia As i noted gdp per capita is one of the biggest indicators. It's not the ONLY one but it's pretty important. Canada places between 16 and 20 there depending on the year etc. So that's a lot closer to 27 than 5  In addition we can see it's been dropping, so that does match up with the idea we've slid. An we've especially been falling short compared to other countries. As you can see since 2015 we've been losing ground to the US, but now it's really horrible. And 2025 is shaping up to be worse.  So all the evidence points to the fact that numero and others like them are fairly accurate. We've slipped horribly and are continuing to slide and our quality of life is nosediving with it.  This graph illustrates just how badly of a decline the Liberals have caused in Canada. Quote
eyeball Posted October 7, 2025 Report Posted October 7, 2025 On 10/6/2025 at 1:53 PM, cougar said: Yep. Sometimes I think it must be me dragging the whole country down. Ever since I came, quality of life and affordability went down the drain.  In contrast the standard of life in the country I came from went up big time! Must be me.😕 I've experienced it the other way, the worse people say things are the better my own circumstances seem to be. Health, finances, life enjoyment... I mean, my new forever GP is a hot surfer chick, I'm semi-retiring and got a raise at work anyway, my own business went up and I'm already booking into next summer. I'm pretty grateful but I also wonder if its something I'm doing right. Quote I said now watch what you say they'll be calling you a radical, a liberal, oh fanatical criminal
CdnFox Posted October 8, 2025 Author Report Posted October 8, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, Moonbox said: If I was scared I wouldn't respond to you, would I? You didn't until provoked. you tried to avoid responding to me as much as you could, while still responding to me indirectly.  I know that I intimidate you, and you generally are aware that when you act like an ass I'm going to make you look dumb  Quote  I don't need to add much though when Chrissy has already dunked on you with a one-liner.  In fact I could honestly be said you added no thought which is exactly how much she put into it Well done Quote If you wanted to have an intelligent, nuanced discussion about Canada losing ground on productivity and standard of living, that'd be neat, and we'd probably actually agree on a lot of things. Yeah I could tell by the way you started out  kiddo you were never interested in any kind of intelligent discussion  Quote Instead, you're just regurgitating the click-bait the algorithm feeds you. Citing numbeo...ffs. Maybe you have some wikipedia sources to add?  🤣 LOL so your cowardace is MY fault! I see! Kiddo I provided plenty of numbers and sources and they're all far more legitimate than what she provided. I also explained why. I also provided facts from government sources with regards to the GDP per capita. You can't refute any of it, but you are so frightened of me that all you could do is Yap and barn and can't offer a single site or quote or comment of your own. You've always been a little pathetic but I have to say looking at you now it's really sad how far you've fallen. It's always been easy to prove that you're wrong but you used to make me work for it a little bit. I'm sure you and Chrissy will get along great  Edited October 8, 2025 by CdnFox Quote "That which doesn't kill me... Had better start running."
Barquentine Posted October 8, 2025 Report Posted October 8, 2025 On 10/6/2025 at 3:47 PM, CdnFox said: Oh how we've fallen. Even Quatar beat us. Well, since you want to be selective with your info: https://ca.news.yahoo.com/canada-ranked-best-country-world-161815694.html September 29, 2025 Canada took the No. 1 spot as the world's most desirable country to move to, beating out Australia, Japan and even the United States — which only managed to rank fifth overall. So why is Canada's ranking in the world so high right now? The research highlights a few major motivators. According to the report, the biggest reason people dream of moving to Canada is for a better quality of life. "With access to excellent education and health care, as well as safe cities to live in and the opportunity for lots of outdoor activities, Canada offers the stability and balance a lot of people are searching for," the report explains. 1 Quote
Moonbox Posted October 8, 2025 Report Posted October 8, 2025 (edited) 14 hours ago, CdnFox said: You didn't until provoked. you tried to avoid responding to me as much as you could Damn, you've uncovered my subterfuge. I totally thought that mocking the noisy internet no-life almost directly under his last post was going to go unnoticed. Alas, nothing gets past you here.  🤡 Edited October 8, 2025 by Moonbox Quote "A man is no more entitled to an opinion for which he cannot account than he is for a pint of beer for which he cannot pay" - Anonymous
West Posted October 8, 2025 Report Posted October 8, 2025 On 10/6/2025 at 12:47 PM, CdnFox said: Oh how we've fallen. Even Quatar beat us.   Well our Liberal party is the voice of Qatar in the west so not surprising they beat Canada 1 Quote
cougar Posted October 8, 2025 Report Posted October 8, 2025 1 hour ago, Barquentine said: Canada took the No. 1 spot as the world's most desirable country to move to, beating out Australia, Japan and even the United States — which only managed to rank fifth overall. So why is Canada's ranking in the world so high right now? I can answer this question for you fairly accurately: Because of very successful false advertising by CIC. Quote
LinkSoul60 Posted October 8, 2025 Report Posted October 8, 2025 18 hours ago, Shady said: How do they calculate quality of life? Â Because even based on your poll, Canada is last in GDP per capita compared to other top 10 countries, and Canada is one of the least affordable. They probably calculate quality of life as they outlined at the very top of the report; Quality of Life Beyond the essential ideas of broad access to food, housing, quality education, health care and employment, quality of life also may include intangibles such as job security, political stability, individual freedom and environmental quality. Through all phases of life, these countries are seen as treating their citizens well. Â Quote
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