It's the Fifth Annual White Liberal Guilt Trip Day!

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Your racist scummery exceeds itself.

Proposing reconciliation somehow lessens the worth of white people and implying unless someone further defiles the gravesites to prove to bigots that they aren't lying is beyond disgusting.

That such tripe gets posted on Reconciliation Day after the absolute shitstorm over the shooting of a minor MAGA shill. Shame!
No further proof that most of you claiming to be 'on the right' are in the wrong. Without a sense of shame, decency or respect for anyone.

All anyone with any intelligence is asking for is proof and after all these years, none has been provided.

MAGA shilll? Huh???

[ExFlyer]

41 minutes ago, eyeball said:

By securing modern treaties that follow Truth and Reconciliation. Treaties are one of the biggest economic drivers in my region now.

Who said they weren't educated? The better question is what can we learn from them? I think we could all stand to renegotiate our relationship with our governments.

Revolutions in the New World have coalesced around indigenous aspirations before.

So, your region ids driven by the indigenous welfare state?

We can learn how to do nothing to better yourself and collect government money for innumerable decades?

"coalesced around indigenous aspirations"? What the H does that mean??? What aspirations have the indigenous ever had except to get more taxpayer money for doing noting.

 

[herbie]

55 minutes ago, Legato said:

Bereft of anything intelligent to say, out come the puerile "Nazi"  fallback.

Should the man post anything but quacks I'll stop calling him a duck too.

Waiting for the inevitable post from you rats that as you weren't there to see it, they must dig up bodies to prove there was a Holocaust.
As for Shady's post of supreme ignorance, you're welcome to dedicate another Badge of Honour to me.

[eyeball]

29 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

So, your region ids driven by the indigenous welfare state?

No, from indigenous investments in infrastructure, housing, businesses etc.

31 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

We can learn how to do nothing to better yourself and collect government money for innumerable decades?

No, I said we can better ourselves by renegotiating our relationship with senior governments governing us. I think we can at least agree our relationship at the moment seems to suck.

33 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

"coalesced around indigenous aspirations"? What the H does that mean??? 

Getting out from under the thumb of some distant fùcked up government that for starters.

35 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

What aspirations have the indigenous ever had except to get more taxpayer money for doing noting.

A Truth Reconciliation and Treaty process for one thing. They got started on that nearly 50 years ago hereabouts. Now there's power plants, housing, businesses, infrastructure...they're doing all sorts of things.

[ExFlyer]

45 minutes ago, eyeball said:

No, from indigenous investments in infrastructure, housing, businesses etc.

No, I said we can better ourselves by renegotiating our relationship with senior governments governing us. I think we can at least agree our relationship at the moment seems to suck.

Getting out from under the thumb of some distant fùcked up government that for starters.

A Truth Reconciliation and Treaty process for one thing. They got started on that nearly 50 years ago hereabouts. Now there's power plants, housing, businesses, infrastructure...they're doing all sorts of things.

OK....there are a few indigenous that work but 90% do not.

You want to better yourselves? Well, stand on your own 2 feet and get along without the government giving you everything...money housing in particular and pay taxes like the rest of Canadians.

Wanna get out form under the thumb of government?  OK, I agree. Start with earning your own money and stop being a burden to Canadian taxpayers.

Indigenous have had hundreds of years to stand up and be assets yet, your people chose to take, take take.

 

[eyeball]

4 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

OK....there are a few indigenous that work but 90% do not.

You want to better yourselves? Well, stand on your own 2 feet and get along without the government giving you everything...money housing in particular and pay taxes like the rest of Canadians.

The best way to do that is through negotiated modern treaties.

They will be and are already paying taxes here btw. You figure these treaties weren't negotiated with our interests in mind as well? Why do you think they took 50 years?

[Legato]

1 hour ago, herbie said:

Should the man post anything but quacks I'll stop calling him a duck too.

Waiting for the inevitable post from you rats that as you weren't there to see it, they must dig up bodies to prove there was a Holocaust.
As for Shady's post of supreme ignorance, you're welcome to dedicate another Badge of Honour to me.

Millions have been spent on discovery and the result, none, nothing, zilch, zero, but here you are with a desperate attempt to perpetuate a lie.

Your ducks go under the name Platypus.

[ExFlyer]

45 minutes ago, eyeball said:

The best way to do that is through negotiated modern treaties.

They will be and are already paying taxes here btw. You figure these treaties weren't negotiated with our interests in mind as well? Why do you think they took 50 years?

Why negotiate a treaty at all???

Either they become Canadian or leave!!!

Move into the real world...pay your own way....for everything.
I say null and void all existing treaties and take them all off our payment records and let them live as we all have to do.

[I am Groot]

8 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

i support it due to the horrors the children in residential schools suffered and thats the only reason. 

What horrors?

Native leaders demanded education for their children. They had to APPLY to send their kids to a boarding school if no day schools were close enough. This was at a time when almost all upper-class and many middle-class families sent their own children away to strict boarding schools. It was never mandatory except for a thirty-year period, and even during that period, at its height, only 30% of native kids attended a boarding (residential) school. The rest went to day schools. By the 1950s, 90% were attending day schools. Were there abuses? Obviously. There were abuses in every institutional setting, and even in day schools, regardless of the race of the child. Especially back in the 'spare the rod, spoil the child' era. People forget that all schools in Canada had the strap or cane right up through the 1970s.

Did some native kids die from the diseases that swept through Canada back in the day? Sure. It wasn't understood back then how these diseases were passed. If we saw the death rates of kids in orphanages, reform schools, or in regular boarding schools they likely would have been similar. Probably had just as many abuses, too. Life was harsh back in the day.

But if you listen to the media and the race grifters, residential schools were places of mass torture where every child was beaten and raped continuously, and half of them were murdered by sadistic nuns. And there's zero evidence of any of that.

 

[I am Groot]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

No further proof that most of you claiming to be 'on the right' are in the wrong. Without a sense of shame, decency or respect for anyone.

Ah yes, we should feel shame for... something or other. It was Thomas Sowell, I believe, who talked about how bizarre it was that people who look like the people who abused some other people should be made to compensate people who look like the people who got abused. 

I read as much information as I can on the subject, and I honestly see no sign of genocide or intended harm by the government. The government didn't have a school system, so it trusted the churches to do it. The churches weren't careful enough about who they sent there. 

Get over it. No one's alive from that era. The few residential schools still around in the 60s and 70s were increasingly overseen by native elders. And again, parents had to apply to send their kids.

[I am Groot]

5 hours ago, herbie said:

Your racist scummery exceeds itself.

Go suck a back of dicks

5 hours ago, herbie said:

Proposing reconciliation

Endless apologies, endless tens of billions of dollars, endless big brother taking care of shiftless people who don't want to work, endless acceptance of the idea that people who barely or don't even speak a word of English might be able to fly across the planet from Africa and Asia and the Middle East to get here and work but natives can't take a bus and get a job.

5 hours ago, herbie said:

somehow lessens the worth of white people and implying unless someone further defiles the gravesites to prove to bigots that they aren't lying is beyond disgusting.

What gravesites? No one has found any, you brainless twat.

 

[I am Groot]

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

By securing modern treaties that follow Truth and Reconciliation. Treaties are one of the biggest economic drivers in my region now.

You mean give away more land like the BC NDP government is doing. Yeah, being given massive amounts of money and land certainly can be an 'economic driver'. Though not so much to those footing the bills.

I wonder if you'll be so sanguine if the natives show up and say your place belongs to them now.

4 hours ago, eyeball said:

Who said they weren't educated?

They did. That's why they demanded education in the treaties.

[I am Groot]

5 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

r i believe they would still be better off today without the residential schools.

Just because you never got an education but managed to find people to fill out the welfare forms for you is no reason to think others wouldn't be better off with an education.

[Michael Hardner]

2 hours ago, eyeball said:

The best way to do that is through negotiated modern treaties.

The UN and most countries have decided that territorial conquest is no longer a legitimate action.

And yet we have unceded land that Canadian cities sit on.

Recognition of past wrongs goes a long way to cementing social cohesion between our peoples.

I think that it's highly bizarre to tell people how to feel about past wrongs.  Even weirder to tell people that they SHOULDN'T feel bad.  Like moralizing amorality.

[I am Groot]

13 minutes ago, Michael Hardner said:

The UN and most countries have decided that territorial conquest is no longer a legitimate action.

And yet we have unceded land that Canadian cities sit on.

Unceded land. Because now and then, three hundred years ago, natives from a particular band pulled their birchbark canoe over to camp and hunt rabbits there. 

But 'territory' was a concept only known to the natives as 'whatever I can physically hold by force against others'.
They couldn't hold it. So it's not theirs.

I hope you approve of my being sensitive to and respectful of their culture.

 

Edited October 1, 2025 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

[CdnFox]

11 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

i support it due to the horrors the children in residential schools suffered and thats the only reason. 

I'm not sure about the whole horrors thing. 

 I mean, there are some we know happened for sure. There WERE cases of abuse that are believable entirely, and there were three times in saskatchewan where the gov't deliberately conducted experiments by starving native kids to see the effect of malnutrition.  That happened. 

 But...  to listen to some people every single child who showed up at these schools was immediately stripped tortured and raped, then sent home for the summers where for some strange reason they kept their mouths shut to the parents, then back for more stripping and raping till they graduated. 

I honestly don't think it was likely quite that bad an experience. No different than other kids sent to bording schools for the most part. 

So i have pretty serious doubts about the whole 'suffering' thing as a large wide scale thing that went on. And i've never seen any actual evidence to suggest it happened on that kind of scale. 

[herbie]

48 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

He gets time and half if he works it, or the whole day pff with pay so he can go out and do whatever he wants.
Yet instead of STFU and enjoy it, he mocks it.
Another one wallows in negativity.

[CdnFox]

1 minute ago, herbie said:

He gets time and half if he works it, or the whole day pff with pay so he can go out and do whatever he wants.
Yet instead of STFU and enjoy it, he mocks it.
Another one wallows in negativity.

You're talking about justin? Yeah he sure got in trouble for that. 

[Politics1990]

2 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Just because you never got an education but managed to find people to fill out the welfare forms for you is no reason to think others wouldn't be better off with an education.

what a dumb  statement lol

[TreeBeard]

11 hours ago, Shady said:

Just a reminder.  Still no remains found.  It was all a media driven narrative to crap on Canada and make Canadians feel guilty about something they had nothing to do with.

It’s interesting that you think there will be “remains” when a priest rapes a child.  

[Shady]

24 minutes ago, TreeBeard said:

It’s interesting that you think there will be “remains” when a priest rapes a child.  

I expect remains when the media talks about mass graves.  It’s been 5 years.  When do you think we’ll get some closure on that?  What’s the hold up?

[eyeball]

5 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Either they become Canadian or leave!!!

Back to where they came from?

[Michael Hardner]

10 hours ago, I am Groot said:

 

1. They couldn't hold it. So it's not theirs.

2. I hope you approve of my being sensitive to and respectful of their culture.

 

1. Okay but you're being selective about which mindset to adopt based on how it benefits one side. 

2. You seem to be challenging me here to do what you're doing. I'm not going to tell you how to feel, no. 

Again, all we're doing is setting up an opportunity to pass an Olive Branch between peoples.  

 One of said peoples, they had all the power and children suffered.  Setting up a day to talk about it, for those of us who care, doesn't seem like much to ask. 

For some reason, a minority resents the fact that their moral stance is not widely held so they lash out. That's how I see it.

[ExFlyer]

9 hours ago, eyeball said:

Back to where they came from?

To wherever they want.

But why move is they get everything for free right here

They will never find a place better than here to get everything for free.