It's the Fifth Annual White Liberal Guilt Trip Day!

[I am Groot]

I hope all you white liberals are feeling suitably ashamed of yourself, disgusted by your entire race and its history, and properly abasing yourself before every semi-indigenous person you come across today, presumably including the 'metis' who are as white as you are since their ancestors were mostly French.

Yes, it's another joyous day of lectures, another day of weeping liberals bowing before the natives their ancestors conquered, another day of grovelling apologies.

Don't forget, at one point, almost 30% of native kids had to go to boarding schools! Oh, the shame! True, it wasn't mandatory, except for those who had no day schools they could attend, and only for a 30-year period, but we'll ignore that part. We'll also ignore that natives demanded education for their kids, even putting it into treaties. Thinking about facts is not what this day is about! It's about wallowing in guilt! So get to it, you lefties!

[ExFlyer]

White liberals???

Canada was conquered and the indigenous lost. Just as the indigenous lost to each other in tribal wars.

I feel very strongly that this truth and reconciliation day is a load of BS. A conquered peoples all over the world have adapted but our indigenous have become a burden to all Canadians financially and socially.

We are sup poised to feel bad for dead children yet, none of the claims have been proven. We perpetuate accusations.

We are supposed to sympathize with the families of the missing and murdered women when most went missing and were murdered in their own communities.

What are we supposed to reconcile? That we have subsidized and made the indigenous a welfare society? Or is that their own fault? Why work and better myself if I keep getting billions of dollars a year form government?

In my opinion, today truth and reconciliation means nothing and is worth nothing.

 

[Politics1990]

i support it due to the horrors the children in residential schools suffered and thats the only reason. 

[Shady]

Just a reminder.  Still no remains found.  It was all a media driven narrative to crap on Canada and make Canadians feel guilty about something they had nothing to do with.

[Politics1990]

33 minutes ago, Shady said:

Just a reminder.  Still no remains found.  It was all a media driven narrative to crap on Canada and make Canadians feel guilty about something they had nothing to do with.

get out of here with that hateful speech  .

[Shady]

4 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

get out of here with that hateful speech  .

There’s nothing hateful about the truth.

[Politics1990]

7 minutes ago, Shady said:

There’s nothing hateful about the truth.

lol you do nothing but spew lies .

[Shady]

18 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

lol you do nothing but spew lies .

I’m sorry that the truth upsets you.  But no remains have been found.  It’s been 5 years.

[Legato]

40 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

lol you do nothing but spew lies .

Then do tell us where those remains have been found.

[ExFlyer]

3 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

i support it due to the horrors the children in residential schools suffered and thats the only reason. 

Considering the "horrors" are all unproven or hearsay, what are you supporting? 

1 hour ago, Politics1990 said:

get out of here with that hateful speech  .

Please provide any proof and evidence before you claim hateful speech.

You are aware that nothing was found?

[WestCanMan]

3 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

i support it due to the horrors the children in residential schools suffered and thats the only reason. 

I don't support it because it is predicated on lies and it promotes racial division/hatred.

[Politics1990]

30 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Considering the "horrors" are all unproven or hearsay, what are you supporting? 

Please provide any proof and evidence before you claim hateful speech.

You are aware that nothing was found?

EW i had hope with you but you joining the far right on this place lol 

[herbie]

Your racist scummery exceeds itself.

Proposing reconciliation somehow lessens the worth of white people and implying unless someone further defiles the gravesites to prove to bigots that they aren't lying is beyond disgusting.

That such tripe gets posted on Reconciliation Day after the absolute shitstorm over the shooting of a minor MAGA shill. Shame!
No further proof that most of you claiming to be 'on the right' are in the wrong. Without a sense of shame, decency or respect for anyone.

[Army Guy]

4 hours ago, Politics1990 said:

i support it due to the horrors the children in residential schools suffered and thats the only reason. 

I just wonder where the indigenous people would be today without the governments direct involvement...Don't get me wrong it was not carried out very well, but was it the right decision ?but one has to ask, should we have left them all alone on the reserves, would they have educated themselves, and would it have been acceptable to the rest of the world...

I ask because they are a minority in this country, and if they wanted to escape life on the reserve how would they do that if they were not educated...

[Politics1990]

1 minute ago, herbie said:

Your racist scummery exceeds itself.

Proposing reconciliation somehow lessens the worth of white people and implying unless someone further defiles the gravesites to prove to bigots that they aren't lying is beyond disgusting.

That such tripe gets posted on Reconciliation Day after the absolute shitstorm over the shooting of a minor MAGA shill. Shame!
No further proof that most of you claiming to be 'on the right' are in the wrong. Without a sense of shame, decency or respect for anyone.

100% scum behavior  the whole lot of them

1 minute ago, Army Guy said:

I just wonder where the indigenous people would be today without the governments direct involvement...Don't get me wrong it was not carried out very well, but was it the right decision ?but one has to ask, should we have left them all alone on the reserves, would they have educated themselves, and would it have been acceptable to the rest of the world...

I ask because they are a minority in this country, and if they wanted to escape life on the reserve how would they do that if they were not educated...

carried out wrong is a understatement however i believe they would still be better off today without the residential schools.

[Army Guy]

2 minutes ago, herbie said:

Your racist scummery exceeds itself.

Proposing reconciliation somehow lessens the worth of white people and implying unless someone further defiles the gravesites to prove to bigots that they aren't lying is beyond disgusting.

That such tripe gets posted on Reconciliation Day after the absolute shitstorm over the shooting of a minor MAGA shill. Shame!
No further proof that most of you claiming to be 'on the right' are in the wrong. Without a sense of shame, decency or respect for anyone.

If your going to make accusations then there should be a need for proof, that these children are in fact there....that should not be that hard to understand....it is done through our the globe....These children should be dug up and buried on Indian land with a proper burial by their own people....nothing disrespectful about any of that...

[Army Guy]

5 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

100% scum behavior  the whole lot of them

carried out wrong is a understatement however i believe they would still be better off today without the residential schools.

Have you thought about the consequences of having no education system capable with our nations...How do they get jobs/ careers outside of the reserve, would it not have made them more dependent on the government...i mean more dependent than they are today....We have done nothing of any substance for these people except make them totally dependent on our nations government or wards of the state........very few escape and carry on with normal a life outside the reserve....

[WestCanMan]

4 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

We are sup poised to feel bad for dead children yet, none of the claims have been proven. We perpetuate accusations.

1) Knowing human nature, it's impossible that no native children were physically, sexually or emotionally abused. 

Even white kids - who didn't have to stay in school overnight for weeks at a time - were physically, emotionally and sexually abused by nuns/priests. (I can't say how bad it was relatively, because sexual abuse is such a traumatic experience for anyone that it can never be minimized, but being trapped in that situation for weeks at a time would add a whole other level to it) 

 

2) Knowing human nature, it's impossible that no native children were cared for to the greatest extent human possible. 

People are people, and no doubt some of the nuns and priests who took on that kind of role would have been some of the best people imaginable, and did the very best job that they possibly could, under the circumstances. And native people have testified to that, so we know it's true. It's just not allowed to be part of the main narrative.

 

The biggest problem with the fake "Truth and Reconciliation" narrative is that we are being led to believe that everyone fell into category 1 and there wasn't a category 2. Basically "Every child was abused, all the time, and the overlords were all completely demonic without a trace of human decency. End of official story."

The secondary problem with the fake "Truth and Reconciliation" narrative is that we are being led to believe that racism was the only reason for even having residential schools in the first place. But let's face it, the kids weren't turned into caucasians there, so that's obviously false. No one poured bleach on them. The simple fact is that 1) before 1875, eentire generations of first nations children were being raised in the stone age, 100%, and 2) the logistics of creating enough schools, spread all across the country, to provide every indigenous child with a school that they could walk to, and thereby join the modern age, was utterly beyond the realm of feasibility.

It wasn't an age of cars, roads, or fixed addresses placed on regularly updated GPS maps, and even basic human safety in between cities, towns, and tribal encampments did not exist, at all, in remote areas. A healthy male with a horse wasn't guaranteed to survive a 100-mile journey, nor were they guaranteed to find a tribe after they travelled that far, because natives moved around seasonally.

People who judge what was possible in 1874 based on conditions that exist today are just stupid beyond belief. With the roads, methods of transportation and wireless communications we have today, a 19-yr-old girl who is being yelled at by a guy in another car, anywhere in Canada, can get in touch with police and meet up with them within 15 minutes. In 1874 a 19-yr-old girl who was travelling in a remote area by herself, even just outside of a major centre like Kamloops, would be at the mercy of anyone they met, with no hope whatsoever of getting in touch with anyone. 

Little school-teachers couldn't just travel to and from day-schools in Tuktoyaktuk. You couldn't pay anyone to go up north do that. 

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We are supposed to sympathize with the families of the missing and murdered women when most went missing and were murdered in their own communities.

It's another story where "some cops somewhere did something bad", so every single instance of a missing or murdered woman is blamed on them, because that's how haters operate.  

[herbie]

Thanks for the downvote from our resident Nazi. I'll add it to my Badges of Honour collection.

[eyeball]

28 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

I ask because they are a minority in this country, and if they wanted to escape life on the reserve how would they do that if they were not educated...

By securing modern treaties that follow Truth and Reconciliation. Treaties are one of the biggest economic drivers in my region now.

Who said they weren't educated? The better question is what can we learn from them? I think we could all stand to renegotiate our relationship with our governments.

Revolutions in the New World have coalesced around indigenous aspirations before.

[WestCanMan]

39 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

EW i had hope with you but you joining the far right on this place lol 

The first word in "Truth and Reconciliation" is truth, and it's not a part of the narrative, is it....

Why were the schools created in the first place? Was it just because of racism, or was there an obvious, and much better reason? 

What are the chances that a mass grave even existed? What are the chances that no one talked about 215 kids that went missing in such a short span that there was a mass-grave made for them? What are the chances that, if something like that mass grave really did exist, that it wasn't from Spanish flu (there are mass grave all across North America, full of white people, from Spanish flu), TB, typhoid, or smallpox? Why was "A RACIST GENOCIDE OF CHILDREN!!!!" the only possibility that was ever considered by you and your ilk? Why was that minor possibility treated like "an actual, verified occurrence" when, to this day, there is still not even one bit of evidence that it may have occurred? Why have we not heard definitively on this matter after 5 years? 

Stop acting like anyone is "far-anything", aside from the people who concocted this bullspit story and then told the whole world that "all of our Canadian ancestors were racist pedophiles".

You're a racist and a liar of epic proportions, 1990, and that is 100% proven by your comments here which still completely differ from the facts of the matter. You're irredeemable. But I think you know that.

[Shady]

48 minutes ago, herbie said:

Your racist scummery exceeds itself.

Proposing reconciliation somehow lessens the worth of white people and implying unless someone further defiles the gravesites to prove to bigots that they aren't lying is beyond disgusting.

That such tripe gets posted on Reconciliation Day after the absolute shitstorm over the shooting of a minor MAGA shill. Shame!
No further proof that most of you claiming to be 'on the right' are in the wrong. Without a sense of shame, decency or respect for anyone.

What grave sites?

[Legato]

9 minutes ago, herbie said:

Thanks for the downvote from our resident Nazi. I'll add it to my Badges of Honour collection.

Bereft of anything intelligent to say, out come the puerile "Nazi"  fallback.

[Shady]

48 minutes ago, Politics1990 said:

100% scum behavior  the whole lot of them

carried out wrong is a understatement however i believe they would still be better off today without the residential schools.

The residential school issue is something that has already been recognized, addressed, and apologized for by several previous Prime Ministers.  Trudeau brought it up again to use it as a way to virtue signal.  

[ExFlyer]

1 hour ago, Politics1990 said:

EW i had hope with you but you joining the far right on this place lol 

I asked questions of you to provide proof of your accusations and you are unable to answer because there is no proof.

So, what hope are you trying to get?