What The Liberals Did To Canada

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

That's got kind of old, don't you think...

So a hour ago is old? Does your clock have 12 fingers.

[LinkSoul60]

7 minutes ago, Legato said:

So a hour ago is old? Does your clock have 12 fingers.

'why are you scared of Poilievre' is an hour old?  It's digital...

[ironstone]

There is a war to see who can more successfully interfere more in Canada between China and India.

India still one of the main perpetrators of foreign interference and espionage in Canada, CSIS says

https://archive.ph/wMRAe#selection-2161.0-2161.99

China and India can fight it out with little to no pushback from the Liberal government. Carney is in India now looking to sign more deals for Brookfield Canada.

At least Carney has the sense not to go there in Mr. Dressup mode.

[LinkSoul60]

41 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Except they boosted their own name and promoted their own brand.

Seems to be working pretty good, doesn't it.

[LinkSoul60]

11 minutes ago, ironstone said:

There is a war to see who can more successfully interfere more in Canada between China and India.

India still one of the main perpetrators of foreign interference and espionage in Canada, CSIS says

https://archive.ph/wMRAe#selection-2161.0-2161.99

China and India can fight it out with little to no pushback from the Liberal government. Carney is in India now looking to sign more deals for Brookfield Canada.

At least Carney has the sense not to go there in Mr. Dressup mode.

Chinese leaders meet Canadian prime minister to cement ties

2011-11-15 23:00

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President Hu believed Canadian PM's visit to China would push bilateral relationship to a new level.

Hu said the visit, which was the first to China since Harper took office, was of great significance.

Premier Wen Jiabao expected Harper's visit to turn a new page for China-Canada relations.

 

Harper agreed with Hu's proposals to enhance bilateral ties, adding his country is to work closely with China to fight against trade protectionism, promote economic growth, strengthen cultural exchanges and multilateral cooperation.

Canada is glad to see China's growing influence in international affairs, Harper said, urging both countries to boost trade, energy and environmental cooperation.

Stephen Harper calls on Canada to mend ties with India

STEVEN CHASESENIOR PARLIAMENTARY REPORTER

OTTAWA

PUBLISHED JUNE 2, 2025UPDATED JUNE 3, 2025

 

Conservatives like trading with China and India too. 

[Legato]

30 minutes ago, LinkSoul60 said:

'why are you scared of Poilievre' is an hour old?  It's digital...

and? 00111100 is digital, your point?

 

 

[LinkSoul60]

12 minutes ago, Legato said:

and? 00111100 is digital, your point?

 

 

The point is where it started before you started talking about clocks... 'why are you scared of Poilievre' is old.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, LinkSoul60 said:

Seems to be working pretty good, doesn't it.

Reports indicate that Trudeau makes many many millions per year as a result of that and paybacks from all of the money he funneled during his time. Seems to be working just fine for him

[Legato]

10 hours ago, LinkSoul60 said:

The point is where it started before you started talking about clocks... 'why are you scared of Poilievre' is old.

Your fear of Poilievre is current and unlike binary is always on.

It's Brookfield's biggest asset that should be causing some concern.

[Goddess]

Carney in India.

Carney announces $100 billion in Canadian Pension Funds will be invested in India.

I guess we are going to learn the hard way, like Sweden did.  (See below.)

Carney's Net Zero agenda has failed all over the world, investors are pulling out of his GFANZ amid US investigations for fraud.  Canada is the last place that Carney can cash in on his Net Zero dreams.

And what does Canada get in return?

Carney announced - We get more Indians.  Apparently, Canada has no tech or AI people.  Ambassador to India was just on CBC and said that he believes Canada can take in an additional 60 million Indians.

Look up Mark Wisman (recently appointed Ambassador to the US by Carney) and the Century Initiative, which the Liberal party has relied heavily on in setting immigration policy in Canada.  They advise Canada needs 100 million people and Wisman has publicly stated that vetting is too time-consuming and unnecessary - just bring them in.

 

Swedish Pension Funds Suffer SEK 197 Billion Loss: Impact on Retirees & Economy

Sweden’s Pension Funds: The Cost of a Green Gamble

 

Sweden's Pension Funds Face Eye-Watering Losses After Investing Heavily in Net Zero Projects - Energy News Beat

In a stark warning to global investors chasing the green dream, Sweden’s pension funds are reeling from massive financial setbacks tied to ambitious net-zero initiatives. Once hailed as pioneers in sustainable investing, these funds poured billions into high-risk clean energy ventures, only to watch them crumble amid market realities.

 

These investments, spanning battery manufacturing and green steel industries, were predicated on optimistic assumptions: aggressive EU decarbonization policies, generous subsidies, and booming demand for electric vehicles. None of these materialized as expected, with weakened EV sales and subsidy cuts exacerbating the crisis.

While exact total losses across all Swedish pension funds remain unaggregated in public reports, estimates point to billions in kronor evaporated—described by analysts as “eye-watering” and potentially requiring taxpayer bailouts via Sweden’s national debt office, which guaranteed portions of these ventures.

The lack of returns is glaring: instead of high rewards from a “high-risk, high-reward” strategy, these projects have delivered zero yields and steep write-downs, socializing losses among pension savers while private executives pocketed earlier gains.

Sweden’s centre-right government is now reconsidering the role of pension funds in national development goals, signaling a shift away from such speculative green bets.

Edited March 2 by Goddess

[I am Groot]

On 3/1/2026 at 1:01 PM, LinkSoul60 said:

It's not up to the federal government to change any laws or regulations right now.  Per the MOU the balls in Smith's court to do the due diligence and summarize by July 1.  She needs indigenous partnership buy-in, BC's buy-in, route assessment, private financing, and carbon policy alignment with the pathways project.  Good luck...

BC is led by an NDP ideologue who has already said no pipelines under any circumstances. So that's not going to happen. You're not contradicting anything I said. No pipeline without the consent of the NDP and every little village mayor in BC that has indigenous ancestry. 

And yes, it IS up to the federal government to change the regulations that are discouraging investment in the natural resources industry.

On 3/1/2026 at 1:01 PM, LinkSoul60 said:

Gather you're of the mindset to say f'ck em all and repeal route and tanker bans regardless of the people that are most impacted...  They'll adapt.

I absolutely AM of the mindset that says let's do what's best for Canada and ignore the little indigenous village mayors who have been heavily bribed by various environmental groups, many of them almost certainly being funded by the American energy industry to keep us from being able to send oil and gas elsewhere.

On 3/1/2026 at 11:19 AM, ExFlyer said:

Which is based on all data available. I use AI to garner all information from all sources. If you are saying AI is selective to sources...please prove your allegations. If it is incorrect, please provide the corrections.

Clearly you have a special data source and it would be nice if you shared it or at least let AI in on it 

To change laws...you need house approval and since conservatives are stalling any progress on any bills...there is sits

Are you trying to suggest the Conservatives would stall bills to repeal laws they have repeatedly called to repeal?

[I am Groot]

Canada's real GDP per capita hasn't moved in 7 years while the US's has gone up 20%

[I am Groot]

[eyeball]

23 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

BC is led by an NDP ideologue who has already said no pipelines under any circumstances. So that's not going to happen.

Eby is ending DST. ANYTHING is possible.

[CdnFox]

3 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Canada's real GDP per capita hasn't moved in 7 years while the US's has gone up 20%

And the line that's missing from that is inflation. It looks Like our GDP per capita hasn't moved, but when you factor in inflation in fact it's going down.

We're totally stagnating

3 hours ago, eyeball said:

Eby is ending DST. ANYTHING is possible.

Which the NDP has been promising for over 10 years   

Glad to see it and happy they're doing it but hardly miraculous. The real shocker is it took this long

[ExFlyer]

8 hours ago, I am Groot said:

BC is led by an NDP ideologue ....

And yes, it IS up to the federal government to change the regulations t...

I absolutely AM of the mindset that says let's do what's best for Canada and ignore the little indigenous village mayors who have been heavily bribed by various environmental groups, many of them almost certainly being funded by the American energy industry to keep us from being able to send oil and gas elsewhere.

Are you trying to suggest the Conservatives would stall bills to repeal laws they have repeatedly called to repeal?

I am not suggesting anything. I asked AI the question and it searched all available data and came up with the response I posted.

[Goddess]

L Wayne Matheson on "X":

The current Liberal line suggests Japan is lining up to build cars in Canada because we’re nice, stable, and morally impressive. That sounds good at a podium. It falls apart under basic arithmetic.

Japan has been clear. No reliable access to the U.S. market, no plant. It is that simple. Ontario is not the destination. It is a staging ground inside a North American supply chain built around American demand. Remove seamless export south and the economics collapse. Companies do not build billion-dollar facilities to serve a 40-million-person market when 330 million sit across the border.

So when Melanie Joly implies Japan’s investment calculus is independent of U.S. access, that is not optimism. It is spin. And spin is not a strategy.

Let’s talk structure. Toyota and Honda account for the overwhelming majority of Canadian auto assembly. That tells you Canada’s role. We are a node in a continental production system. Our value proposition is integration, predictability, and cost efficiency. Not vibes.

Yes, Canada has strengths. Critical minerals. Skilled labour. Energy resources. A relatively stable legal system. But those are inputs. The foundation is market access. If Washington signals trade friction, tariffs, or shifting rules of origin, capital recalculates instantly.

And here’s the uncomfortable part. When Ottawa flirts with policy ambiguity toward China, piles on regulatory costs, and drives up energy prices while claiming industrial leadership, it sends mixed signals. Japanese firms are balancing geopolitical risk carefully. If Canada looks strategically confused, that risk premium goes up. Capital goes elsewhere.

This is the Liberal blind spot. They talk confidence. Investors price risk.

Foreign investment is not an applause line. It is a cost-benefit equation. Tariffs, labour productivity, logistics efficiency, energy pricing, tax treatment, and regulatory stability all go into the model. If the numbers don’t work, the plant doesn’t get built. Full stop.

Canada does not compete as a moral brand. We compete as a high-functioning production partner inside North America. That means:

• Lock in durable U.S. market access.
• Keep energy and input costs competitive.
• Cut regulatory drag.
• Stay geopolitically clear.
• Stop overselling and start aligning policy with economic reality.

The real risk is not that Japan misunderstands Canada. It’s that Ottawa misunderstands how capital actually moves.

Foreign capital is not sentimental. It is disciplined.

So here’s the question the Liberals never answer plainly: when the spreadsheets are opened in Tokyo, does Canada still win on cost, risk, and access?

If the answer is no, no amount of press conferences will fix it.

[Moonbox]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

And the line that's missing from that is inflation. It looks Like our GDP per capita hasn't moved, but when you factor in inflation in fact it's going down.

The chart shows real GDP per capita, which is already adjusted for inflation.  Weird how someone so apparently knowledgeable about economics doesn't know ECON 101 stuff.  

[Goddess]

"The CBSA arrested Sarkaren Vir Singh, 29, of Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, and Chamkaur Singh, 25, of Belleville, Ontario." Like I keep saying, Canada has allowed large scale migration of individuals from Punjab, India, who are involved in drug trafficking and other criminal actives, to fund the Khalistani movement."

 

 

These people are neither Canadians, nor Indians.  They live in the imaginary land of Khalistan where narcotics is the main stream of income.

[Goddess]

L Wayne Metheson on "X":

The Liberals and NDP have managed something almost impressive: a country sitting on uranium, potash, nickel, oil, gas, grain and hydro… acting like a resource-poor nation begging for relevance.

The video summary lays it out clearly. Canada is rich in resources yet losing global market share. It takes over 20 years to approve and build a mine. LNG projects stalled. Capital leaving. Enbridge frustrated. BC importing electricity while blocking new generation

That’s not bad luck. That’s policy.

The U.S. becomes energy dominant. We become regulatory dominant. They build. We review. They export. We consult. Then we wonder why GDP per capita drifts and food bank lines grow.

And here’s the part that should irritate any serious Canadian, left or right: even PM Carney acknowledge overregulation, yet reform never arrives Recognition without action is political theatre.

This is what happens when ideology outranks arithmetic.

Cheap, reliable energy is the base layer of prosperity. Industry, farming, manufacturing, data centres, everything runs on it. You throttle energy, you throttle growth. Then you blame corporations, capitalism, or “global forces” for the slowdown you engineered.

The Liberals sell virtue.

The NDP sells outrage.

Neither sells growth.

And the media? According to the summary, weak on accountability That vacuum lets policy failure hide behind press conferences and hashtags.

This isn’t about oil versus environment. It’s about whether Canada wants to be a serious country or a symbolic one.

You can regulate intelligently and still build. The U.S. proves that. You can protect the environment and approve projects in under two decades. Australia proves that. We choose paralysis.

If you want a simple step? Demand timelines. Not vibes.

Demand measurable output. Not intentions.

And when a government blocks prosperity, stop rewarding it.

[eyeball]

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

This isn’t about oil versus environment.

It is for millions of Canadians.

2 hours ago, Goddess said:

And when a government blocks prosperity, stop rewarding it.

I'll reward them when they can protect the environment while supporting prosperity but not if they can't, won't or don't.

[CdnFox]

4 hours ago, Moonbox said:

The chart shows real GDP per capita, which is already adjusted for inflation.  Weird how someone so apparently knowledgeable about economics doesn't know ECON 101 stuff.  

Not "key area inflation".  Which focuses on what people have to buy, Food, shelter, transport etc.   It doesn't' seek to 'flatten' the curve the way other inflation calculations do 

Sorry, i would have thought given all the discussions lately that would have been obvious.  But just in case you missed it... there you go.  We have some of the worst key inflation in the g7  right now. 

[Goddess]

33 minutes ago, eyeball said:

It is for millions of Canadians.

I'll reward them when they can protect the environment while supporting prosperity but not if they can't, won't or don't.

The Liberals sell virtue.

The NDP sells outrage.

Neither sells growth.

[eyeball]

34 minutes ago, Goddess said:

The Liberals sell virtue.

The NDP sells outrage.

Neither sells growth.

Oh well, if nothing moves nothing gets hurt. That works just fine for the environment.  There's always a silver lining.

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

Oh well, if nothing moves nothing gets hurt. That works just fine for the environment.  There's always a silver lining.

Well that's not true. In an environment where nothing moves everything dies. And if you prefer an environment that's barren rock I suppose that's good