Electricity Is Becoming Unbelievably Expensive as the US Power Grid Decays Into Ruin

[robosmith]

18 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Another post when some one is throwing rocks at glass houses again....there has been plenty of studies in reference the Canadian power grid and how screwed up that is....but i get it, Canadians love throwing rocks at Americans ....it is our national sport...I'm surprised we don't have provincial teams...

IF there are so many "studies" why can't you post even ONE? LMAO

You know your EMPTY claims and $5 can buy you a cup of coffee at Horton's

[robosmith]

6 hours ago, Nationalist said:

People...this is a lie of omission. Its a partial truth and is the much lesser part. The major culprit of rising energy costs is government regulations and taxes.

"At current levels the carbon price adds about 14 cents to a litre of gas. That will rise 3.3 cents per year until 2030, when it will add 37 cents." https://toronto.citynews.ca/2023/06/29/climate-policies-and-fossil-fuel-clean-fuel-regulations-and-carbon-pricing-explained/

And that's in Canada where apparently the grid is in much better shape. 

These climate freaks want everyone to now think that rising energy costs are the sole result of infrastructure neglect. That's the "excuse du jour" as they now realize nothing they've done has produced any positive results.

This is nothing more than a transparent attempt to misdirect.

Its a LIE.

Apparently you FAILED to read the news when the Texas power grid COLLAPSED a couple of winters ago and Senator Ted Cruz was caught high tailing it to Cancun instead of freezing his ass off while he dealt with the problem at home.  LMAO

[Nationalist]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

Apparently you FAILED to read the news when the Texas power grid COLLAPSED a couple of winters ago and Senator Ted Cruz was caught high tailing it to Cancun instead of freezing his ass off while he dealt with the problem at home.  LMAO

No I heard.

And?

[Legato]

1 hour ago, robosmith said:

That is the TROLLegato SOP...

You now hidy behind a beaver?

[User]

12 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

LOL Quebec’s rates go below 7 cents

LOL, so what?

That wasn't your argument. 

 

6 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO the Republican party is nothing EXCEPT fear/porn and lies. 

So... that is your argument for acting this way here too?

 

[herbie]

Beaver keeps forgetting he's talking with people so damned brainwashed they can't figure out that if they're buying power originating from Quebec then they're paying more because their power company has to make a profit.
Brainwashed so well, they don't even understand the very capitalist system they live in. 
WalMart's in business to save you money !!! 

[BeaverFever]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Really?

Who was it who predicted the north pole would be thawed by 2013?

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/mar/02/facebook-posts/fact-checking-claims-al-gore-said-all-arctic-ice-w/

That's right...a Libbie.

Who was that left cum stains on the furniture in the Oval Office and lied about it?

That's right...another Libbie.

Who said as POTUS he was powerless to close the border?

That's right...Brandon. 

Sigh...you were saying?

 

LMAO that’d all you got?  
 

Polar ice IS melting at an alarming rate the exact timeline and number is trivial. Many arctic waterways that used to be frozen year round or almost year round are ice free for much longer than they ever were. 
 

A Democrat lies about having an affair?  You’re seriously trying to suggest no Republican has done that LMAO how many times has Trump cheated on his 3 wives, Let me just remind you that around that exact same time as the Lewinsky scandal, the Republican speaker of the house was secretly a lifelong pedophile bribing his victim to keep silent while another was writing sexually explicit love letters to a young boy who had been his volunteered in his office. Newt Gingrich the previous Republican speaker was cheating on his terminally ill wife while she was dying of cancer.  He also go caught taking a multi-million dollar bribe in the form of a book advance which he had to return once exposed 

Before that there was the Iran Contra scandal where the Reagan administration illegally sold weapons to America’s enemy Iran and trafficked cocaine into USA, all to fund secret illegal wars and right wing death squads in Latin America, which of course they lied about and they had to pardon  dozens of their own people, some preemptively so they couldn’t be investigated  They also sold chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein meaning they were arming Both sides of the Iran-Iraq War. And funded and armed Taliban and Al-Qaeda during this period as well  

Then under Bush Junior they fabricated lies about Saddam’ having a connection to 9/11 and that he had WMD, claiming he had mobile launchers that could hit USA in 45 minutes  even showing a supposed picture of one on TV  They said the evidence was a “slam dunk”   They said they had proof Saddam had bought yellow cake uranium in Africa when in fact they knew that was a fabricated story. They said American troops would be home from the invasion in weeks or months without significant casualties and American troops would be welcomed by Iraqis as liberators. Then when that was all exposed as shameless lies they lied again and claimed they never said what they said  THOUSANDS OF US TROOPS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQIS WERE KILLED,  BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WASTED BECAUSE OF THIS ONE LIE ALONE 

 

Them of course there’s Trump and the tens of thousands of lies he’s told, he lies every time he speaks, the biggest one being THE BIG LIE where HE TRIED TO STEAL THE 2020 ELECTION 

 

[BeaverFever]

2 hours ago, User said:

LOL, so what?

That wasn't your argument. 

My argument is that US power grid is decrepit and disorganized and electricity is expensive. Them someone tried to claim Canada is just as expensive which it is not and why so much of the aluminum USA needs comes from Canada specifically Quebec. 

[BeaverFever]

13 hours ago, Legato said:

Okay Electricity grid in US is in need of repair, yes we get that. The you go on to blame Trump.

 The whole article is nothing more than a partisan attack, If you expect intelligent replies then post something intelligent.

 

LOL the article barely mentions Trump except to say the problem started long before him but his policies will only worsen it.   Hilarious how you people make it all about him. Typical cult reaction. 

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

No I heard.

And?

So that seems like a well functioning grid to YOU. LMAO

[robosmith]

9 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Really?

Who was it who predicted the north pole would be thawed by 2013?

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/mar/02/facebook-posts/fact-checking-claims-al-gore-said-all-arctic-ice-w/

That's right...a Libbie.

Who is it who believes Gore is climate scientist?

That's right a JACK ASS gnat girl.

9 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Who was that left cum stains on the furniture in the Oval Office and lied about it?

That's right...another Libbie.

Nope they were on the Blue dress, ignoramus. LMAO

9 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Who said as POTUS he was powerless to close the border?

That's right...Brandon. 

Sigh...you were saying?

Who is it who doesn't know that under a UN declaration application for ASYLUM is a RIGHT?

Just because YOU AND Trump are A-HOLES, does not mean Biden has to be one, too and violate the UN declaration 

 

[User]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

My argument is that US power grid is decrepit and disorganized and electricity is expensive. Them someone tried to claim Canada is just as expensive which it is not and why so much of the aluminum USA needs comes from Canada specifically Quebec. 

Yeah, and I gave you numbers showing otherwise. Your response was to move the goal posts from comparing countries to looking at what Quebec does... in certain circumstances. 

As usual, you get called out for posting absolute BS and these are the games you resort to or you just run away. 

[Nationalist]

5 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

LMAO that’d all you got?  
 

Polar ice IS melting at an alarming rate the exact timeline and number is trivial. Many arctic waterways that used to be frozen year round or almost year round are ice free for much longer than they ever were. 
 

A Democrat lies about having an affair?  You’re seriously trying to suggest no Republican has done that LMAO how many times has Trump cheated on his 3 wives, Let me just remind you that around that exact same time as the Lewinsky scandal, the Republican speaker of the house was secretly a lifelong pedophile bribing his victim to keep silent while another was writing sexually explicit love letters to a young boy who had been his volunteered in his office. Newt Gingrich the previous Republican speaker was cheating on his terminally ill wife while she was dying of cancer.  He also go caught taking a multi-million dollar bribe in the form of a book advance which he had to return once exposed 

Before that there was the Iran Contra scandal where the Reagan administration illegally sold weapons to America’s enemy Iran and trafficked cocaine into USA, all to fund secret illegal wars and right wing death squads in Latin America, which of course they lied about and they had to pardon  dozens of their own people, some preemptively so they couldn’t be investigated  They also sold chemical weapons to Saddam Hussein meaning they were arming Both sides of the Iran-Iraq War. And funded and armed Taliban and Al-Qaeda during this period as well  

Then under Bush Junior they fabricated lies about Saddam’ having a connection to 9/11 and that he had WMD, claiming he had mobile launchers that could hit USA in 45 minutes  even showing a supposed picture of one on TV  They said the evidence was a “slam dunk”   They said they had proof Saddam had bought yellow cake uranium in Africa when in fact they knew that was a fabricated story. They said American troops would be home from the invasion in weeks or months without significant casualties and American troops would be welcomed by Iraqis as liberators. Then when that was all exposed as shameless lies they lied again and claimed they never said what they said  THOUSANDS OF US TROOPS AND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF IRAQIS WERE KILLED,  BILLIONS OF DOLLARS WASTED BECAUSE OF THIS ONE LIE ALONE 

 

Them of course there’s Trump and the tens of thousands of lies he’s told, he lies every time he speaks, the biggest one being THE BIG LIE where HE TRIED TO STEAL THE 2020 ELECTION 

 

My poor Beave...the Demoncrats have tried to scare the whole world into submission endlessly for the last 20 years. But 3 words explain it better than I can.

RUSSIA...RUSSIA...RUSSIA. 

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

So that seems like a well functioning grid to YOU. LMAO

Has it had any issues since?

All grids have issues. Even up here.

Get a grip on your zucchini. 

[Nationalist]

4 hours ago, robosmith said:

Who is it who believes Gore is climate scientist?

That's right a JACK ASS gnat girl.

Nope they were on the Blue dress, ignoramus. LMAO

Who is it who doesn't know that under a UN declaration application for ASYLUM is a RIGHT?

Just because YOU AND Trump are A-HOLES, does not mean Biden has to be one, too and violate the UN declaration 

 

You've already lost Sweetie. Nobody in their right mind believes you anymore.

That's what happens when you get caught lying endlessly.

Now put your mask on...go howl at the moon...and put a "ILLEGALS WECOME HERE" sign on your front yard.

[Legato]

10 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

LOL the article barely mentions Trump except to say the problem started long before him but his policies will only worsen it.   Hilarious how you people make it all about him. Typical cult reaction. 

So yes it's all about Trump with you guy's.

[LinkSoul60]

23 hours ago, Nationalist said:

The very last little paragraph 

And why are they being retired?

Liberal regulations make it too expensive to run.

They're being retired because everything has a shelf life, and energy investments are toward cleaner sources.

Too expensive or not, you/we will all be paying for it just like you would if they were foolish enough to start up a coal burning plant.

[robosmith]

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

My poor Beave...the Demoncrats have tried to scare the whole world into submission endlessly for the last 20 years. But 3 words explain it better than I can.

RUSSIA...RUSSIA...RUSSIA. 

After so many CITES you STILL don't understand the EVIDENCE of Trump campaign collusion with RUSSIA LMAO

7 hours ago, Nationalist said:

Has it had any issues since?

All grids have issues. Even up here.

Get a grip on your zucchini. 

Yes. it has, ignoramus LMAO

After 4 Years And Billions Of Dollars, The Texas Grid Is Not Fixed

[eyeball]

On 8/31/2025 at 8:13 AM, Nationalist said:

No. Im tired of your endless fear-porn and outright lies. You've lost jack-ass. Pretend you're a man and accept it.

And you've won. Emissions are up, action is down the leash is coming off. And you're still whining. Can't you even pretend to be a little more grateful?

[User]

21 minutes ago, eyeball said:

And you've won. Emissions are up, action is down the leash is coming off. And you're still whining. Can't you even pretend to be a little more grateful?

The sad stupidity here is that no one was ever winning before now. 

You folks ignore China, ignore India, and pretend that while Western nations ship their coal off to China to burn and ship all their industry off to China to be made, while their emissions go up and ours slightly go down, you were actually doing something to save the planet. 

 

[eyeball]

3 minutes ago, User said:

You folks ignore China...

I was saying no truck nor trade with China way back when you still identified as a little girl in pigtails.

[User]

Just now, eyeball said:

I was saying no truck nor trade with China way back when you still identified as a little girl in pigtails.

Your comments here betray you. Notice the one I was responding to... where you act like emissions are only now up, which means you were ignoring China. They have always been up. 

 

[eyeball]

Just now, User said:

Your comments here betray you. Notice the one I was responding to... where you act like emissions are only now up, which means you were ignoring China. They have always been up. 

Emissions have always been going up. They're simply going faster now is all.

In any case we should have stopped trucking and trading on the basis of China's human rights alone.

Nixon was wrong, we've become more like China than the other way around. That's what we're ignoring.

 

[robosmith]

1 hour ago, User said:

The sad stupidity here is that no one was ever winning before now. 

You folks ignore China, ignore India, and pretend that while Western nations ship their coal off to China to burn and ship all their industry off to China to be made, while their emissions go up and ours slightly go down, you were actually doing something to save the planet. 

 

You have NO IDEA about China's PLANS to go Carbon neutral. They are more ambitious than Canada and US.

Quote

What Will It Take for China to Reach Carbon Neutrality by 2060?

Report highlights construction requirements and changes in policy

To become carbon neutral by 2060, as mandated by President Xi Jinping, China will have to build eight to 10 times more wind and solar power installations than existed in 2022. Reaching carbon neutrality will also require major construction of transmission lines. 

China land use policies will also have to be more coordinated and focused on a nation-wide scale rather than be left to ad hoc decisions by local governments. That’s because 80% of solar power and 55% of wind power will have to be built within 100 miles of major population centers. 

These are the conclusions of a new study from researchers at Tsinghua University in Beijing and at the University of California San Diego. The team publishes their findings in the Feb. 26, 2024 issue of the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences. 

“We know China has a very ambitious pathway to achieve carbon neutrality. We wanted to find out exactly what that entails,” said Michael Davidson, a senior author of that study and a professor at the School of Global Policy and Strategy and the Jacobs School of Engineering at UC San Diego.

One of the goals of the study is to inform renewable energy planning and policy in China. But the information is also crucial because China is currently the world’s biggest greenhouse gas emitter. So the country’s policies impact the global climate change picture and the planet’s future. Other countries can also learn from China’s successes and failures. 

The study is based on an ambitious model that simulated China’s carbon neutral power grid in 2060 and what it would take to get there. The model looks at power generation resources and transmission line installations at an unprecedented resolution, considering parcels of land as small as 20 to 30 square kilometers. The model can also be applied to other countries. 

As the researchers built and ran the model, the importance of land use became clearer. For example, China’s east, near the coast, will run out of land that can be used for renewable energy plants. As a result, any solar installations in that area need to be built on a smaller scale, on residential and commercial buildings, for example.

China will need to build two to four terawatts each of solar and wind capacity to reach carbon neutrality by 2060. 

The model shows that China will need to build two to four terawatts each of solar and wind capacity. Construction of terawatt-level energy storage will also be required. Ultra-high voltage transmission between the country’s provinces should double or triple to ensure power supplies are delivered where they are needed. 

 

[gatomontes99]

5 minutes ago, robosmith said:

You have NO IDEA about China's PLANS to go Carbon neutral. They are more ambitious than Canada and US.

Lmao...as they build a coal fired plant a day. Right. Gawd, you are such a schill. 

[User]

2 hours ago, robosmith said:

You have NO IDEA about China's PLANS to go Carbon neutral. They are more ambitious than Canada and US.

ROFL

Sure, their "plans"