Electricity Is Becoming Unbelievably Expensive as the US Power Grid Decays Into Ruin

[Hodad]

55 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

 No but you are. Storing barrels of “gasoline” (fyi - power plants  don’t burn gasoline, they burn NG) isn’t the same as storing electricity. You can’t convert gas into electricity without a gas fired power plant. How do you not understand?

 

Batteries don’t create electricity, they just store electricity that’s been generated elsewhere.  How do you not understand the difference between storing electricity and storing something that is not electricity and can’t be made from electricity?  The problem isn’t that gas fired plants don’t have enough gas to burn during peak times. How do you not understand?  This isn’t that complicated. 
 

The storage is not “hundreds of times more expensive” than the alternative. The alternative to grid scale batteries is building more gas fired plants to run during peak times,  not storing more barrels of gas for the plants that already run during peak time. 
 

 

Two posts in a row and still the patience of a saint? Nah, even a saint would be shouting expletives at this point. 

These are clearly people who would build an air compressor without a tank and a water system without a reservoir. Some things you can't fix. 🤦‍♂️

[paxamericana]

4 hours ago, herbie said:

Backstabbed his most reliable trade partner and convinced his legion…why

Look if you’re going to export fentanyl you have to pay your friction removal fee.

[herbie]

Oh you bought his whole pack of lies lock stock and barrel I see.

[WestCanMan]

41 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

😂😂😂 Meltdown! MAGA Meltdown in aisle 7!  

 

* sigh *. Look you still don’t know wrf you’re taking about. When you dropped out of high school you chose to be stupider than others. Stupidity compounds over the years and now I have the shitty job of trying to undo decades of ignorance and brainwashing to explain basic facts. 
 

Basically you sent me a link to a story about car crash in a sensational pop culture  infotainment site to prove that all cars around the world are a failure and then when I click the link it’s actually an experimental go-kart and it never crashed, just being decommissioned after more than a decade. 
 

Ivanpah is not a conventional PV solar panel site it is a technology demonstrator that that went online in 2014 and uses mirrors to heat water that drives a steam turbine. It’s basically a steam-driven power plant, totally different tech. PV solar is highly successful all over the world. 

Ivanpah has operated for over a decade and delivered many GW of power, just never as much as hoped and at higher cost than hoped so it’s being decommissioned next year.  It did kill a lot birds though, the mirrors were so powerful birds could catch fire just by flying over them. But that’s nothing to do with actual PV solar which is what almost all solar is. 
 

Another “F” report card for your collection, dumbass. 

No. You’re saying gas is non-combustible?

I don't know what lvl of school you dropped out of, and I'm not going to judge you on that anyways because I know how hard even grade 3 must have been for someone as dumb as you, but FYI that doesn't mean that you get to just lie and play stupid and we all have to go along with it.

FYI, it's not always sunny enough to generate solar power. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but the sun doesn't shine at night. And in the winter, when we need power in Canada and some American states the most, the nights are substantially longer than the days, and even then the days can be so overcast that solar panels don't do anything. And they can just be covered with snow and again, useless. On avg, solar panels produce about 30% as much energy during snowy months as they do in the summer. So wtf is the point of having them when you don't really need them?  

That's part of the reason that there were over 800 green-energy projects cancelled/scrapped in Alberta and Ontario alone. All this in an era where 4 of our 5 main political parties in Canada pimp green energy as a do or die necessity...

Solar power also isn't worth a shit in BC when it's cloudy and raining, which has been as long as 42 consecutive days, through the winter months. 

Wind farms don't work when there's no wind, and then they get damaged when it's too windy. 

So, green energy isn't "reliable". Sometimes it's working, sometimes it's not, at all, and even when green energy is "working", at best it's just "chipping in", while the majority of energy is still coming from traditional, more reliable sources. 

Coal: works. Nuclear: works. NGas: woks. They just work, work, work, work, 24/7, and then when they're needed the most, they keep working just as well as they always have.

They don't get damaged in installation, and end up as unrecyclable toxic trash forever. They aren't destroyed by hail or high winds. Guess what they do instead, dummy: they work. Always.

There are no $2B coal-fired plants that were just turfed after barely ever doing anything. 

Fossil fuels and nuclear still provide, on avg, 80% of all the energy in NA, but THAT NUMBER GOES HIGHER WHEN THE DEMANDS ARE AT THEIR HIGHEST. 

Sure: ugly, noisy, expensive solar and wind farms do something, just not when you need them the most.

 

Are you aware of the law of supply and demand? Things are worth more when they're scarce, or in high demand. Energy is no different. It is worth a lot in the winter in Canada, when it's in high demand, and it is worth less when it's in low demand, in the summer. 

You're describing a system that only produces energy when it's not really needed as being a success. 

Who would build an energy project that only works well when they don't need it, leaving them to buy energy from elsewhere during the times when they need it the most?

Would you buy a furnace that only comes on in the summer? How could you market that, genius? 

Would you buy an A/C unit that only works in the winter? How could you market that, genius?

Why should BC, Alberta and Ontario create solar farms? Or ugly, noisy windfarms? How is that better than coal, or nuclear? 

Leftard gov'ts in the US and Canada have hitched their wagons to green energy BS projects that have been an overall FAILURE. They spent their time and energy planning and approving crap that either didn't get built, failed, or underperformed during times of greatest need, and t the same time they were fighting against coal, nuclear and oil, and that's just a fact. Now we're here, and you're pretending that this green energy drive has paid dividends, when it simply has not. 

[Legato]

3 hours ago, herbie said:

Oh FFS he didn't say that at all, did he?
Did you know the lead in lead acid batteries can make you retarded and the acid can eat your face off?

Quit putting words in other people's mouth and bringing up minor obstacles as if they're killer arguments against shit you don't like.

No fribbles, someone has to point out his and ultimately your inability to see the obvious.

[Legato]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

No. You’re saying gas is non-combustible?

So your saying lithium batteries are non combustible, thermal runaway is not a problem?

Left wing nutjob eyes wide shut.

[User]

2 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

😂😂😂 Meltdown! MAGA Meltdown in aisle 7!  

As opposed to your just slinking away from your lies?

 

[User]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Batteries don’t create electricity, they just store electricity that’s been generated elsewhere.  How do you not understand the difference between storing electricity and storing something that is not electricity and can’t be made from electricity?  

I swear, I have never seen someone so proud to be as ignorant as you are about any point so that you can pretend to be right and smug. 

Yes, batteries do in fact create/generate electricity. They "store" electricity by chemical conversion. Then they have a chemical reaction to generate electricity... 

They are not some magical box of energy. 

 

 

[CdnFox]

58 minutes ago, Hodad said:

Two posts in a row and still the patience of a saint? Nah, even a saint would be shouting expletives at this point. 

These are clearly people who would build an air compressor without a tank and a water system without a reservoir. Some things you can't fix. 🤦‍♂️

Oh look, The coward who's too afraid to actually speak to me directly as an opinion  

[herbie]

25 minutes ago, User said:

Yes, batteries do in fact create/generate electricity.

I have never seen someone 'unclear of the concept' about so many things. Like the ones who see, hear and read things and then repeat what they imagined they wanted to see, hear, read to everyone else

[CdnFox]

9 minutes ago, herbie said:

I have never seen someone 'unclear of the concept' about so many things. Like the ones who see, hear and read things and then repeat what they imagined they wanted to see, hear, read to everyone else

You're not supposed to start drinking until Friday

[User]

18 minutes ago, herbie said:

I have never seen someone 'unclear of the concept' about so many things. Like the ones who see, hear and read things and then repeat what they imagined they wanted to see, hear, read to everyone else

I agree, Beaver was ignorant and unclear about how batteries work. 

 

45 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Oh look, The coward who's too afraid to actually speak to me directly as an opinion  

Exactly. 

These fools come on here like they are the king shit when they are cowards hiding. 

[BeaverFever]

On 11/13/2025 at 9:22 PM, User said:

I swear, I have never seen someone so proud to be as ignorant as you are about any point so that you can pretend to be right and smug. 

Yes, batteries do in fact create/generate electricity. They "store" electricity by chemical conversion. Then they have a chemical reaction to generate electricity... 

They are not some magical box of energy. 

 

 

Im talking about the grid scale battery storage that’s being discussed in this conversation, stupid. Stop being a trolling little twat

On 11/13/2025 at 9:14 PM, User said:

As opposed to your just slinking away from your lies?

 

What lies?

[BeaverFever]

On 11/13/2025 at 9:11 PM, Legato said:

So your saying lithium batteries are non combustible, thermal runaway is not a problem?

Left wing nutjob eyes wide shut.

Nobody is saying that, dumbass. Lots of things are combustible, including your precious fossil fuels whose primary purpose is combustion. Lithium Ion batteries are everywhere in everything from cars to power tools to submarines and more . Your argument that it is a non-viable technology when it is already clearly widely established because it can catch fire is ridiculous and dumb. 

[Legato]

2 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Nobody is saying that, dumbass. Lots of things are combustible, including your precious fossil fuels whose primary purpose is combustion. Lithium Ion batteries are everywhere in everything from cars to power tools to submarines and more . Your argument that it is a non-viable technology when it is already clearly widely established because it can catch fire is ridiculous and dumb. 

No ones saying it's non viable. Just pointing out facts that you conveniently overlook.

Tell that to the guy up the road whose E bike self combusted who lost his garage 2 cars (both EV's) his house and badly damaged the side of the next door house. Guess what he drives now.

Up the scale to high capacity storage and then walk into the insurance company cap in hand.

[User]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Im talking about the grid scale battery storage that’s being discussed in this conversation, stupid. Stop being a trolling little twat

Oh, so you ignorantly think batteries at the grid scale are magic, then? LOL

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

What lies?

Oh please, you know what you do here. You have run away from so many threads now, it is not even funny. 

[BeaverFever]

On 11/13/2025 at 8:49 PM, WestCanMan said:

I don't know what lvl of school you dropped out of, and I'm not going to judge you on that anyways because I know how hard even grade 3 must have been for someone as dumb as you, but FYI that doesn't mean that you get to just lie and play stupid and we all have to go along with it.

FYI, it's not always sunny enough to generate solar power. I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but the sun doesn't shine at night. And in the winter, when we need power in Canada and some American states the most, the nights are substantially longer than the days, and even then the days can be so overcast that solar panels don't do anything. And they can just be covered with snow and again, useless. On avg, solar panels produce about 30% as much energy during snowy months as they do in the summer. So wtf is the point of having them when you don't really need them?  

That's part of the reason that there were over 800 green-energy projects cancelled/scrapped in Alberta and Ontario alone. All this in an era where 4 of our 5 main political parties in Canada pimp green energy as a do or die necessity...

Solar power also isn't worth a shit in BC when it's cloudy and raining, which has been as long as 42 consecutive days, through the winter months. 

Wind farms don't work when there's no wind, and then they get damaged when it's too windy. 

So, green energy isn't "reliable". Sometimes it's working, sometimes it's not, at all, and even when green energy is "working", at best it's just "chipping in", while the majority of energy is still coming from traditional, more reliable sources. 

Coal: works. Nuclear: works. NGas: woks. They just work, work, work, work, 24/7, and then when they're needed the most, they keep working just as well as they always have.

They don't get damaged in installation, and end up as unrecyclable toxic trash forever. They aren't destroyed by hail or high winds. Guess what they do instead, dummy: they work. Always.

There are no $2B coal-fired plants that were just turfed after barely ever doing anything. 

Fossil fuels and nuclear still provide, on avg, 80% of all the energy in NA, but THAT NUMBER GOES HIGHER WHEN THE DEMANDS ARE AT THEIR HIGHEST. 

Sure: ugly, noisy, expensive solar and wind farms do something, just not when you need them the most.

 

Are you aware of the law of supply and demand? Things are worth more when they're scarce, or in high demand. Energy is no different. It is worth a lot in the winter in Canada, when it's in high demand, and it is worth less when it's in low demand, in the summer. 

You're describing a system that only produces energy when it's not really needed as being a success. 

Who would build an energy project that only works well when they don't need it, leaving them to buy energy from elsewhere during the times when they need it the most?

Would you buy a furnace that only comes on in the summer? How could you market that, genius? 

Would you buy an A/C unit that only works in the winter? How could you market that, genius?

Why should BC, Alberta and Ontario create solar farms? Or ugly, noisy windfarms? How is that better than coal, or nuclear? 

Leftard gov'ts in the US and Canada have hitched their wagons to green energy BS projects that have been an overall FAILURE. They spent their time and energy planning and approving crap that either didn't get built, failed, or underperformed during times of greatest need, and t the same time they were fighting against coal, nuclear and oil, and that's just a fact. Now we're here, and you're pretending that this green energy drive has paid dividends, when it simply has not. 

1) Dipshit, you may have noticed this thread has moved on to talk about grid scale battery projects already installed that capture and store energy generated from wind and solar and release it back to the grid when it’s needed 

2) Dipshit, even without grid scale battery storage, when wind and solar are working, they offset emitting sources like gas plants which can go into standby. I know that as a climate denying nutjob you don’t care about that but the world can’t cater to your stupidity

3) Dipshit, Are you seriously dumb enough to believe fossil fuels and nuclear don’t create toxic byproducts?  Are you seriously dumb enough to believe we don’t know you couldn’t care less about pollution and the environment?

 

4) Dipshit, 800 energy “projects” weren’t cancelled. In Ontario, the Doug Ford Government cancelled 700+ CONTRACTS (not projects) when they took office and cancelled the Liberals Feed In Tariff program. But they have their own program and continue to commission new wind, solar and battery storage as I just posted in the thread. ALBERTA canceled projects when they placed a moratorium on all renewables because Danielle and the Alberta government ate right wing nutjobs owned by the Global oil industry 

 

5) Dipshit, More than 80% of the electricity generated in Canada is non-fossil fuel sources: nuclear, hydro, wind and solar. 

[herbie]

He's thinking of SuperDave and his electric car with 10,000 AA batteries wired in series in the trunk.
The chemicals in the AAs made the electricity until one burnt out.

These haters can't believe there's umpteen ways to 'store' energy or change it from one form to another.

[BeaverFever]

On 11/13/2025 at 7:40 PM, CdnFox said:

It's not relevant and I've come to realize you're not deliberately pretending to be stupid, you are the real thing.

Did you think that the electrical energy just jumped into the battery?  nothing created it it just walked in there on its own?

It's not relevant That the energy is harvested in one case before storage and one case after storage, it's still storage of energy. You understand what energy is right? I don't have to go through the basics of science with you do I?

You're making a nonsense argument because you know you've lost this discussion but you're not willing to let it go.

As evidenced by the fact that I clearly used gasoline as a catch all for any petroleum or liquefied natural gas issue.

Try being less pathetic, it's getting irritating

Dude it’s totally relevant. Look you thought gas plants ran on “cans of gasoline” when in fact they run on natural gas piped directly in to the plant by a gas main. And you proposed “storing cans of gasoline” as alternative to battery storage when it comes to delivering electricity during peak demand.  As if you thought the problem was the gas plants run out of gas during peak times or something. You’ve just shown you have absolutely no clue WTF you’re talking about, and are ONCE AGAIN just randomly making stuff up and fumbling around blindly to try and make some kind of argument for argument’s sake.  
 

Furthermore gas power plants are not powered by “petroleum” or “liquified” natural gas.   It’s just regular natural gas, non-liquified, and it comes through a pipe on-demand, not cans ergo it doesn’t need to be “stored” you’re just parroting terms you don’t understand.  

On 11/13/2025 at 7:40 PM, CdnFox said:

Ok, you are officially too stupid for this conversation.

With batteries you create the energy beforehand. How do you think the electricity comes into existence to put into the battery. How do you not understand that you have to create the energy and then put it into the battery?

 

 

So what's your reply boils down to is you realize you've said something stupid, I've called you on the stupid and I did so in a fairly nice way and rather than just accept that and move on you have become more and more and more stupid and you're trying to twist what I've said out of its meaning to make yourself feel better

. You've not only lost this one kid you've looked god damn stupid doing it. I usually expect better from you than this kind of pure I'll crap. This is the kind of stuff we see from Robosmith. 

As of this moment there is no way to store electricity as efficiently or as inexpensively as we store fuel of any type. And until we can everything you said is complete bullshit

LOL no you have no clue what you’re talking about  You’re floundering around for arguments and spouting gibberish  Gridscale batteries are real, they exist, companies like Tesla and others make them and are investing in billions in them and you’re making up total bullshit pretending that you know more than all these experts 

 

Let’s recap:  

1) energy is more expensive when generated at peak demand than if it’s generated at low demand. Ratepayers pay for this the electricity bill. Battery storage which is already a thing, allows producers to generate electricity when it’s cheap and not needed and batteries supply it to the grid when it’s in high demand expensive.  Furthermore, ratepayers don’t necessarily pay much if any of the cost of this on their bill.   

2) The alternative to battery storage is to meet growing peak demand by building excess gas plants for hundreds of millions just to run them for a few hours a day during peak times, making it extremely expensive per MW actually generated  

3) when paired with wind and solar the energy those sources produce can be provided when it’s needed rather than when the sun is shining or the wind is blowing amd displce fossil fuels. I know as a climate skeptic this means nothing to you but the world doesn’t subscribe to your misconceptions. 

Listen you clearly don’t know any facts or have any understanding regarding this topic and you’re wandering all over the place making all kinds of nonsensical illogical arguments and citing bullshit. You just need to throw in the towel and for the hundredth time stop your bullshitting  You don’t have to opine on every thread if you don’t know what you’re talking about, shameless bullshitting isn’t going to do you any favours. 

Edited November 16, 2025 by BeaverFever

[User]

28 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

Furthermore gas power plants are not powered by “petroleum” or “liquified” natural gas.   It’s just regular natural gas, non-liquified, and it comes through a pipe on-demand, not cans ergo it doesn’t need to be “stored” you’re just parroting terms you don’t understand.  

So, now you believe in magic pipes! When Natural Gas plants are in peak demand, the stuff just magically comes out of the pipes more!

ROFL

Natural Gas plants do in fact utilize storage from underground to above ground tanks, because there is not some magic pipe that just always provides the perfect amount needed. They do use storage to balance demand with supply. 

And yes, it is also liquified for transportation too! When Europe is buying Natural Gas from overseas... they don't have a magic pipeline across the Atlantic. 

They liquify it and put it in ships! They also liquify it for storage too!

Edited November 16, 2025 by User

[BeaverFever]

16 minutes ago, User said:

So, now you believe in magic pipes! When Natural Gas plants are in peak demand, the stuff just magically comes out of the pipes more!

ROFL

No you twit it DOESN’T THAT’S THE WHOLE POINT OF BATTERY STORAGE !!!  FFS can you please follow along??

My comment that quoted is correcting his dumb ass which said when there’s a power crunch instead of batteries we just need more  “cans of gasoline”  for the gas plants 

Seriously what don’t you understand?  During peak times MORE power is needed on the grid and the only way to supply it is battery storage or to build whole new power plants to run during peak times. How many times so I have to say it to get through your thick skulls???

 

23 minutes ago, User said:

Natural Gas plants do in fact utilize storage from underground to above ground tanks, because there is not some magic pipe that just always provides the perfect amount needed. They do use storage to balance demand with supply. 

And yes, it is also liquified for transportation too! When Europe is buying Natural Gas from overseas... they don't have a magic pipeline across the Atlantic. 

They liquify it and put it in ships! They also liquify it for storage too!

No gas plant in Canada receives LNG.  Not in cans, not in underground storage, not in trucks trains or pipes, not in a box with a fox.  The trickle of LNG imported to Canada is “regassified” soon after arrival before moving onward and the trickle of LNG that we currently produce is pretty much exclusively for export   There is virtually no domestic demand for LNG specifically to date.  That may change in the future as we are currently building some major LNG export terminals and related production, maybe some of that will encourage domestic demand you never know but that’s not the current situation 

[User]

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

No you twit it DOESN’T THAT’S THE WHOLE POINT OF BATTERY STORAGE !!!  FFS can you please follow along??

You said:

" It’s just regular natural gas, non-liquified, and it comes through a pipe on-demand, not cans ergo it doesn’t need to be “stored” you’re just parroting terms you don’t understand."

It is not my fault you keep making ignorant comments that are wrong. Yelling at me like a toddler isn't going to change that or make you right. 

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

My comment that quoted is correcting his dumb ass which said when there’s a power crunch instead of batteries we just need more  “cans of gasoline”  for the gas plants 

No, you went further than that and made your own ignorant factually incorrect comments, which I responded to. 

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

Seriously what don’t you understand?  During peak times MORE power is needed on the grid and the only way to supply it is battery storage or to build whole new power plants to run during peak times. How many times so I have to say it to get through your thick skulls???

I am not the one with an understanding problem here, you were. I already pointed out where you were ignorantly wrong. 

1 hour ago, BeaverFever said:

No gas plant in Canada receives LNG.

OK, so what? This has nothing to do with what you ignorantly claimed and I said nothing about Canada specifically. 

 

 

[CdnFox]

8 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

Im talking about the grid scale battery storage that’s being discussed in this conversation, stupid. Stop being a trolling little twat

 

He's being as pedantic as you were and obviously throwing that in your face.

When you got shown to be wrong you decided you would try and be technical and it isn't a good look as he is now trying to demonstrate back to you by being technically correct in what he's saying even though it's not particularly germane.

Hopefully you can see how stupid it is and in the future you won't be participating in that kind of childishness again either

[BeaverFever]

11 hours ago, User said:

It is not my fault you keep making ignorant comments that are wrong. Yelling at me like a toddler isn't going to change that or make you right. 

It is your fault that you resort to lies and false accusations about what other people said. Gas power plants are supplied by pipeline.  In no way did i ever suggest that more gas comes down the pipeline to the plant during peak times and only a shameless liar like yourself would claim I said that.  I have said REPEATEDLY that the whole point of battery storage is precisely because if you don’t have grid storage you need to build additional gas plants just to meet peak demand.    I have said this several times now. So you can admit that you’re a liar or you can admit that you’re clueless amd not following the conversation but there’s no third option. 

Look you seem to not know this either but Gas plants don’t store extra gas for peak demand that’s like saying if you put extra gas in your car you can drive twice as fast  Your car only has one engine no matter how much gas put in the tank. It’s absolutely ret4rded for anyone to suggest adding extra fuel to a gas turbine can somehow produce extra output without another turbine engine and machinery required to convert that to electricity Some Gas plants have a limited amount of on-site storage only so they can continue operating if the pipeline supply is disrupted  not so they can magically convert it to electricity without any additional equipment  
 

11 hours ago, User said:

No, you went further than that and made your own ignorant factually incorrect comments, which I responded to. 

False. Nothing i have said has been ignorant or factually incorrect. The only ignorant statement have come from your false accusations of things Indidnnot say, gibberish about “cans of gasoline” and irrelevant statements about lithium ion battery combustion 

 

11 hours ago, User said:

I am not the one with an understanding problem here, you were. I already pointed out where you were ignorantly wrong. 

As above 

 

 

11 hours ago, User said:

OK, so what? This has nothing to do with what you ignorantly claimed and I said nothing about Canada specifically. 

LMAO you people brought up gas plants running on LNG to try and cover your shocking ignorance of this topic and only showed how ignorant you are. Remember you 3 stooges are trying to argue that grid scale battery storage projects like the ones going on in Ontario and elsewhere around the world are some kind of scam or conspiracy and we should instead be meeting peak demand by storing “cans” of gasoline-er-petroleum-er-liquefied natural gas - that will somehow magically put more electricity in the grid.   The stupidity and desperation of your arguments is on full display 

[BeaverFever]

9 hours ago, CdnFox said:

He's being as pedantic as you were and obviously throwing that in your face.

When you got shown to be wrong you decided you would try and be technical and it isn't a good look as he is now trying to demonstrate back to you by being technically correct in what he's saying even though it's not particularly germane.

Hopefully you can see how stupid it is and in the future you won't be participating in that kind of childishness again either

It wasn’t pedantic of me to point out the ridiculousness of your comment about storing “cans of gasoline”. Its not just that you got a basic fact about the fuel source wrong, or the fact that you didn’t know gas plants have s 24/7 supply of fuel via a pipeline directly into the plant, its that you don’t get the problem isn’t a shortage of fuel for the existing power plants.  

The basis of your entire argument was that we should be stockpiling gas plant fuel instead of building battery storage, which you claimed to be supported by facts. It’s not pedantic or childish to dismantle that argument and expose all the false assumptions that it was based on including the “cans of gasoline” bit which shows basic facts are sorely lacking  

Its not like plants are running out of gas and going offline. It’s that entire new gas plants have to be built just to run a few hours a day for peak demand, making it a very expensive and environmentally unfriendly way to produce a limited amount of electricity. Battery storage mitigates that problem, plain and simple That’s why there are hundreds if not thousands of these projects across North America alone, backed by all sorts of established companies and investors and experts. You don’t know some secret they don’t.