We celebrate Canada Day while teaching our children to hate Canada

[I am Groot]

Does anyone fail to see the irony of celebrating the founding of a nation that our 'elites' disparage on a daily basis? A nation founded by people our academics curse and sneer at, and peopled by those our schools utterly ignore in favour of genuflecting toward natives? Take pride in Canada! Why? Isn't Canada an illegitimate, genocidal, colonial, racist, oppressive, so-called country on stolen land? How many of the Canada Day celebrations will start out with a groveling mea culpa that it's being held on the land that rightly belongs to someone else? 

This isn't how ordinary Canadians ever felt, but to the elites, its mandatory, and they're doing their best to teach our young the same absurd ideological beliefs they suffer under. 

Canada's tradition of sweeping its British roots under the rug | National Post

[Barquentine]

58 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

Does anyone fail to see the irony of celebrating the founding of a nation that our 'elites' disparage on a daily basis?

You must be talking about Poilievre whose whole election pitch was "Canada is broken, the apocalypse is nigh!" He made Chicken Little look lie a cockeyed optimist.

[Edwin]

Barquentine, You gave me a wonderful laugh when I read "He made Chicken Little look lie a cockeyed optimist." Good Job!

[herbie]

Maybe Groot does, no one else. Hard core negativist Can'tservative.

[I am Groot]

7 hours ago, Barquentine said:

You must be talking about Poilievre whose whole election pitch was "Canada is broken, the apocalypse is nigh!" He made Chicken Little look lie a cockeyed optimist.

Why do politicians lie? Because people don't like it when they tell the truth. They want soothing lies instead, right?

[Gaétan]

Children are well raised by teachers; it is from their parents and the media that they take bad habits.

[WestCanMan]

7 hours ago, Barquentine said:

You must be talking about Poilievre whose whole election pitch was "Canada is broken, the apocalypse is nigh!" He made Chicken Little look lie a cockeyed optimist.

I get that was a bit confusing for an intellectual infant like yourself. Let me suffice it to say that there's more than 1 way for a thing to be broken. 

The OP was about the LPOC's culture of division and hate: it's weird for them to suddenly wave a flag and pretend to love - or even like - our culture after they spent ten years telling us and the world that we suck. 

Poilievre was talking mainly about the disastrous economic policies of the LPOC, along with a whole host of other issues caused by the Libs and their MSM wing.

[Michael Hardner]

My kids are in the system and they're more patriotic than we ever were.

[herbie]

Well I remember a sense of pride growing when we gt our own flag and Expo67. Quiet patriotism, not the flag licking hands over your heart chants and idol worship BS.

 

[Army Guy]

10 hours ago, Barquentine said:

You must be talking about Poilievre whose whole election pitch was "Canada is broken, the apocalypse is nigh!" He made Chicken Little look lie a cockeyed optimist.

Is canada broken, perhaps give some examples of how it is not broken...it is way to easy to say PP vision is negative...but everyone in Canada can name many things that are either broken , or not running as they should....without pointing that oput how is anything going to get fixed...i never understood that about liberals that assume everything is sunshine and rainbows...when almost every dumpster is on fire...

[Army Guy]

28 minutes ago, herbie said:

Well I remember a sense of pride growing when we gt our own flag and Expo67. Quiet patriotism, not the flag licking hands over your heart chants and idol worship BS.

 

Do You see any of that now, i mean it's rough if you have to travel all the way back to 67 to get some patriotism for this country....Quite patriotism never heard of that before....sounds like a half hearted attempt at something....or your patriotic when it is convenient. 

Not sure what's wrong with having a flag in your yard, having some pride in your nation...sh1t can't even play the national anthem at schools any more because it offends some....Canadians are more patriotic towards their hockey teams than they are of their nation...Service to their country first is a thing of the past....

[CdnFox]

13 hours ago, Barquentine said:

You must be talking about Poilievre whose whole election pitch was "Canada is broken, the apocalypse is nigh!" He made Chicken Little look lie a cockeyed optimist.

He didn't say the apocalypse is nigh, he said it already happened and he could fix it. He said that Canada was Fantastic and we should be proud of it and rebuild it back to its former glory before the liberals had destroyed it.

He talked about restoring the Canadian dream, where if you worked hard and did your share and went to school you could have a decent life. He wanted that back for the youngest generation.

Your guys lied and said everything was great and everybody has tons of food and everybody has cheaper rent and if you vote for us we'll have our elbows up and we would never never ever cave to trump and give up billions and billions in revenue in a weekend because he scared us. Sigh, 

[CdnFox]

Happy Decolonize Canada Day i guess.....

 

 

 

[Moonlight Graham]

17 hours ago, I am Groot said:

Does anyone fail to see the irony of celebrating the founding of a nation that our 'elites' disparage on a daily basis? A nation founded by people our academics curse and sneer at, and peopled by those our schools utterly ignore in favour of genuflecting toward natives? Take pride in Canada! Why? Isn't Canada an illegitimate, genocidal, colonial, racist, oppressive, so-called country on stolen land? How many of the Canada Day celebrations will start out with a groveling mea culpa that it's being held on the land that rightly belongs to someone else? 

This isn't how ordinary Canadians ever felt, but to the elites, its mandatory, and they're doing their best to teach our young the same absurd ideological beliefs they suffer under. 

Canada's tradition of sweeping its British roots under the rug | National Post

White liberals hate themselves.  They're filled with guilt.  They compare themselves to perfection rather than every other civilization ever.  They want nothing short of the destruction of Western civilization.

White liberals mean well, but are among the least-wise humans to ever exist.  They're hopelessly self-destruction.  They can't stomach the tough and sometimes brutal decisions it takes to survive in the natural world we live in.  Their ideas are utopian and idealistic, they don't live in the realm of reality.  And they certainly don't bother to think about the longterm consequences of the idea they implement.

The path to evil is paved with good intentions. 

[Moonlight Graham]

6 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

My kids are in the system and they're more patriotic than we ever were.

Ask them, or any Canadian, who our 2nd Prime Minister was.  Ask them what the Statute of Westminster is. Then ask them what the residential schools were.

 

Edited June 30, 2025 by Moonlight Graham

[Michael Hardner]

1 hour ago, Moonlight Graham said:

Ask them, or any Canadian, who our 2nd Prime Minister was.  Ask them what the Statute of Westminster is. Then ask them what the residential schools were.

 

And if they can't answer, then they were taught to hate Canada...

 

 

[Barquentine]

11 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

The OP was about the LPOC's culture of division and hate: it's weird for them to suddenly wave a flag and pretend to love - or even like - our culture after they spent ten years telling us and the world that we suck. 

Poilievre was talking mainly about the disastrous economic policies of the LPOC, along with a whole host of other issues caused by the Libs and their MSM wing.

Admitting past mistakes or bad policies is not self-hate.

And while I didn't like Trudeau, a lot of the economic problems were down to the pandemic and its after-effects that caused the same problems we had in all the other developed countries. Yes, too much immigration too fast was a mistake, and we need to invest a lot in our industries to get our productivity up. Look around and you'll see other countries facing the same problems. Over all, we're not doing much worse or better than most. And rent and food inflation are in large part spurred by pure greed.

But to say "Canada's broken' is instilling self-hate and division and not helping anyone, except the self serving politicians saying it.

MSM? You're not naive enough to get all your news from social media, I hope for your sake.

[Venandi]

24 minutes ago, Barquentine said:

Admitting past mistakes or bad policies is not self-hate.

Realizing it only comes with prolonged bad experience though. What seems to have changed is our ability to recognize total madness on first contact.

Her's an example of insanity that future generations will be able to enjoy at our expense, and like residential schools, eugenics, defunding police, vaccine mandates etc, in 10 years time the number of people willing to defend it will fade to ZERO..  

https://nationalpost.com/opinion/michael-higgins-hamiltons-ban-of-a-woman-an-adult-female-billboard-is-irrational

I'm not even sure what's worse... the fact that it needs to be said or the fact that it needs to be banned. 

[ExFlyer]

8 hours ago, Army Guy said:

Is canada broken, perhaps give some examples of how it is not broken...it is way to easy to say PP vision is negative...but everyone in Canada can name many things that are either broken , or not running as they should....without pointing that oput how is anything going to get fixed...i never understood that about liberals that assume everything is sunshine and rainbows...when almost every dumpster is on fire...

There is a difference between "broken" and not agreeing with or not as you would like it.

Government does what the public asks or demands. Rarely is government, of any political party, pro active. 

Calling the Liberal government a "dumpster fire" is nonsensical and forgetting that Harpers government collapsed, prorogued parliament and called an election too and lost as a result. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/oct/15/stephen-harper-master-manipulator

[I am Groot]

10 hours ago, Army Guy said:

..Canadians are more patriotic towards their hockey teams than they are of their nation...Service to their country first is a thing of the past....

"Ask not what you can do for your country, ask what your country can do for you while putting it all on credit so your kids and grandkids have to pay for it." Every Liberal and NDP leader in the last 60 years.

[I am Groot]

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

Admitting past mistakes or bad policies is not self-hate.

Wallowing in past mistakes to the exclusion of all else, while utterly ignoring that such mistakes were generally far less than what was going on everywhere else, IS self-hate.

2 hours ago, Barquentine said:

And while I didn't like Trudeau, a lot of the economic problems were down to the pandemic and its after-effects

You have a short memory. Immigration was a mess before the pandemic. The endless parade of deficits during good economic times started well before the pandemic. The attacks on the national story, the sense of national identity, of our historical underpinnings as a nation were enthusiastically going on well before the pandemic. The healthcare system was deteriorating and family doctors were increasingly hard to find well before the pandemic. The massive and growing regulatory burden that is choking our economy exploded well before the pandemic. The loss of faith in ourselves, the fear, the hesitation, the lack of confidence, the lack of initiative and innovation lest we fail, the lack of productivity, yeah, that was all going on before the pandemic. The demand that government protect us from absolutely everything bad and address every little problem no matter the cost was going on well before the pandemic. This country has been going downhill for decades.

No better symbol exists of this than 24 Sussex. Sitting vacant for over a year as our national government wrings its hands and bites its nails in anxiety about being blamed if it agrees to either fix or replace it. Can't make a decision. What if someone criticizes it!? Maybe more studies?! Just push it down the road!

That's what we do. We push everything down the road because we're too afraid of the resulting problems we'd have to face if we dealt with it. That's how we got our healthcare crisis. That's how we got our immigration mess. That's why our budget deficits keep growing. That's why all the things that need to be done aren't being done until it's almost too late. Kick the can down the road and maybe it'll be someone else's problem.

Our national motto should be "Be afraid! Be very afraid!"

Edited June 30, 2025 by I am Groot

[I am Groot]

11 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

My kids are in the system and they're more patriotic than we ever were.

And your kids are how old again? Do they even know what a country is?

[Michael Hardner]

19 minutes ago, I am Groot said:

And your kids are how old again? Do they even know what a country is?

Yeah. They love it, and they love singing the anthem.  They're elementary school age.

[I am Groot]

Just now, Michael Hardner said:

Yeah. They love it, and they love singing the anthem.  They're elementary school age.

That doesn't tell me anything. There's a big difference between what a six-year-old should know and what a thirteen-year-old should know. The story I cited talked about how ignorant nine-year-olds were about their own country's history - except that they thought everything must be coming from indigenous people.

14 hours ago, Gaétan said:

Children are well raised by teachers; it is from their parents and the media that they take bad habits.

Children are being indoctrinated by teachers.

[Moonlight Graham]

4 hours ago, Michael Hardner said:

And if they can't answer, then they were taught to hate Canada...

 

 

Ask them their opinions on Sir John A.