User Posted 21 hours ago Author Report Posted 21 hours ago 7 minutes ago, Aristides said: That's what looters do. Then why do you say obviously wrong things like this: "They aren't stealing anything." Quote
Aristides Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago Just now, User said: Then why do you say obviously wrong things like this: "They aren't stealing anything." I'm saying people who come illegally for a better life are not stealing, all they want is opportunity. Looters are just opportunists who take advantage of chaos. Quote
User Posted 21 hours ago Author Report Posted 21 hours ago Just now, Aristides said: I'm saying people who come illegally for a better life are not stealing, all they want is opportunity. Looters are just opportunists who take advantage of chaos. Well, there are literally millions upon millions of illegal immigrants, it is absrudly wrong on its face for you to proclaim none of them are stealing and all they want is opportunity. The facts clearly show otherwise. To the point, this thread is about sending in the National Guard to deal with the lawlessness around LA in trying to stop ICE from doing their jobs. Something you claimed to support. So, what is your point? Quote
Aristides Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, User said: Well, there are literally millions upon millions of illegal immigrants, it is absrudly wrong on its face for you to proclaim none of them are stealing and all they want is opportunity. The facts clearly show otherwise. To the point, this thread is about sending in the National Guard to deal with the lawlessness around LA in trying to stop ICE from doing their jobs. Something you claimed to support. So, what is your point? When did I ever say none of them steal? That would be ridiculous. If they get caught stealing, prosecute and deport them. Quote
User Posted 21 hours ago Author Report Posted 21 hours ago Just now, Aristides said: When did I ever say none of them steal? That would be ridiculous. If they get caught stealing, prosecute and deport them. You just said: "I'm saying people who come illegally for a better life are not stealing." Why do you constantly engage so dishonestly here like this? You say one stupid thing and then deny it 5 minutes later. 1 Quote
Legato Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago 1 minute ago, Aristides said: When did I ever say none of them steal? That would be ridiculous. If they get caught stealing, prosecute and deport them. They stole entry to the US deport them. 3 Quote
Deluge Posted 21 hours ago Report Posted 21 hours ago (edited) 2 hours ago, robosmith said: 1. Most immigrants these days head straight for the nearest office and submit their asylum application. 2. What are YOU doing to HELP those homeless addicted persons? I'll bet it's NOTHING, because you don't care enough to DO ANYTHING to HELP THEM. 1. WRONG. MOST of those people break into the country and head straight to the nearest hideout from where they try to blend in and disappear. Would you like to know why they do this? That's right, it's because they don't give a flying f*ck about US law - they want passage NOW, not later, with the rest of the "suckers" that stand in line. 2. He doesn't have to care. He doesn't have to do a f*cking thing. He can donate, volunteer or do nothing. That's the beauty of being an American we can do whatever the f*ck we want if it's not against the law. What you border erasing psychopaths want IS against the law. It's why ICE is busting doors down and arresting illegal aliens and sometimes even your judges. Edited 21 hours ago by Deluge 2 Quote
herbie Posted 20 hours ago Report Posted 20 hours ago 1 hour ago, Aristides said: It might be worth remembering that these folks are just people like you and I. No they aren't! They're illegal immigrants. All of them. The Fat Mouthed Fascist wouldb't send the National Guard against real Americans legitimately protesting! BTW I winder which Federal Law they were breaking for the President to even have an opinion worth it;s weight in shit? Quote
User Posted 20 hours ago Author Report Posted 20 hours ago (edited) 36 minutes ago, herbie said: No they aren't! They're illegal immigrants. All of them. The Fat Mouthed Fascist wouldb't send the National Guard against real Americans legitimately protesting! Is this what you consider a "legitimate protest?" 36 minutes ago, herbie said: BTW I winder which Federal Law they were breaking for the President to even have an opinion worth it;s weight in shit? Attacking federal law enforcement, attacking federal government buildings, and general lawlessness, preventing the enforcement of federal laws, including Immigration laws. Any other stupid questions? Edited 20 hours ago by User Quote
Deluge Posted 19 hours ago Report Posted 19 hours ago 1 hour ago, herbie said: No they aren't! They're illegal immigrants. All of them. The Fat Mouthed Fascist wouldb't send the National Guard against real Americans legitimately protesting! BTW I winder which Federal Law they were breaking for the President to even have an opinion worth it;s weight in shit? Illegal aliens is the better descriptor. Get it right, wokejob. Trump dispatched the National Guard because left-wing rioters are trashing parts of LA. Of course, a dumbf*ck like you is incapable of understand why Trump had to do this, but just rest assured that it needed to be done. 1 Quote
gatomontes99 Posted 17 hours ago Report Posted 17 hours ago Remember when Democrats were appalled that Trump didn't call in the National Guard in DC? Now they are appalled that he did. Mark my words. This is not an organic riot. https://crowdsondemand.com/protests-rallies-and-advocacy 8484 Wilshire Blvd, Suite 515 Beverly Hills, CA 90211 1 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
CdnFox Posted 17 hours ago Report Posted 17 hours ago 19 minutes ago, gatomontes99 said: Remember when Democrats were appalled that Trump didn't call in the National Guard in DC? Now they are appalled that he did. Mark my words. This is not an organic riot. https://crowdsondemand.com/protests-rallies-and-advocacy 8484 Wilshire Blvd, Suite 515 Beverly Hills, CA 90211 Kamala who? Quote There are two types of people in this world: Those who can extrapolate from incomplete data
Army Guy Posted 14 hours ago Report Posted 14 hours ago 21 hours ago, robosmith said: YOUR legal ^OPINION means NOTHING. I think it is written into your laws....i might be wrong, even we have those same laws, and we are more left than california... 1 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
Army Guy Posted 14 hours ago Report Posted 14 hours ago 6 hours ago, Aristides said: I'm saying people who come illegally for a better life are not stealing, all they want is opportunity. Looters are just opportunists who take advantage of chaos. both acts are criminal.... 2 Quote We, the willing, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have now done so much for so long with so little, we are now capable of doing anything with nothing.
robosmith Posted 13 hours ago Report Posted 13 hours ago 44 minutes ago, Army Guy said: I think it is written into your laws....i might be wrong, even we have those same laws, and we are more left than california... Prove it with a legitimate legal opinion or cite the LAW. They are written down if you can find them. Quote
Nationalist Posted 12 hours ago Report Posted 12 hours ago 9 hours ago, Aristides said: There is no cause for violence but maybe you should ask what people are upset about. Were you concerned about what people were upset about when the Jan 6 riot happened? Or did you just want them all tossed in jail? Bet it was the latter...eh? 1 Quote Its so lonely in m'saddle since m'horse died.
Moonlight Graham Posted 10 hours ago Report Posted 10 hours ago 2 hours ago, Nationalist said: Were you concerned about what people were upset about when the Jan 6 riot happened? Or did you just want them all tossed in jail? Bet it was the latter...eh? All Americans need to stop rioting. All these rioters behave like fools. 1 Quote "All generalizations are false, including this one." - Mark Twain Partisanship is a disease of the intellect.
gatomontes99 Posted 7 hours ago Report Posted 7 hours ago 6 hours ago, robosmith said: Prove it with a legitimate legal opinion or cite the LAW. They are written down if you can find them. It is like you are willfully ignorant: https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/8/235.3 (b) Expedited removal—(1) Applicability. The expedited removal provisions shall apply to the following classes of aliens who are determined to be inadmissible under section 212(a)(6)(C) or (7) of the Act: (i) Arriving aliens, as defined in 8 CFR 1.2; (ii) As specifically designated by the Commissioner, aliens who arrive in, attempt to enter, or have entered the United States without having been admitted or paroled following inspection by an immigration officer at a designated port-of-entry, and who have not established to the satisfaction of the immigration officer that they have been physically present in the United States continuously for the 2-year period immediately prior to the date of determination of inadmissibility. The Commissioner shall have the sole discretion to apply the provisions of section 235(b)(1) of the Act, at any time, to any class of aliens described in this section. The Commissioner's designation shall become effective upon publication of a notice in the Federal Register. However, if the Commissioner determines, in the exercise of discretion, that the delay caused by publication would adversely affect the interests of the United States or the effective enforcement of the immigration laws, the Commissioner's designation shall become effective immediately upon issuance, and shall be published in the Federal Register as soon as practicable thereafter. When these provisions are in effect for aliens who enter without inspection, the burden of proof rests with the alien to affirmatively show that he or she has the required continuous physical presence in the United States. Any absence from the United States shall serve to break the period of continuous physical presence. An alien who was not inspected and admitted or paroled into the United States but who establishes that he or she has been continuously physically present in the United States for the 2-year period immediately prior to the date of determination of inadmissibility shall be detained in accordance with section 235(b)(2) of the Act for a proceeding under section 240 of the Act. 2 Quote The Rules for Liberal tactics: If they can't refute the content, attack the source. If they can't refute the content, attack the poster. If 1 and 2 fail, pretend it never happened. Everyone you disagree with is Hitler. A word is defined by the emotion it elicits and not the actual definition. If they are wrong, blame the opponent. If a liberal policy didn't work, it's a conservatives fault and vice versa. If all else fails, just be angry.
User Posted 5 hours ago Author Report Posted 5 hours ago 8 hours ago, robosmith said: Prove it with a legitimate legal opinion or cite the LAW. They are written down if you can find them. You take playing the Sea Lion act to a new low. Quote
Boges Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 37 minutes ago, User said: You take playing the Sea Lion act to a new low. You know you've won an argument when someone claims sealioning. The goal here has always been to prompt a violent response. ICE has been picking up kids going to school, separating families, arresting people on their way to immigration hearings. All the while they're wearing masks to hide their identity. When people stand up, Trump can set the precedent that he can send the troops in the incite more violence. This all is straight out of the fascist playbook. America is quickly losing any reputation of actually being a free country. "Conservatives" were appalled when law enforcement was carrying out federal orders in Ottawa during the convoy. They were allowed to protest for 3 freakin' weeks and wouldn't leave. Quote
Aristides Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago 10 hours ago, Army Guy said: both acts are criminal.... Are you saying both actions are equal? Murder is the same as theft because they are both criminal? Quote
User Posted 4 hours ago Author Report Posted 4 hours ago 12 minutes ago, Boges said: You know you've won an argument when someone claims sealioning. The goal here has always been to prompt a violent response. ICE has been picking up kids going to school, separating families, arresting people on their way to immigration hearings. All the while they're wearing masks to hide their identity. When people stand up, Trump can set the precedent that he can send the troops in the incite more violence. This all is straight out of the fascist playbook. America is quickly losing any reputation of actually being a free country. "Conservatives" were appalled when law enforcement was carrying out federal orders in Ottawa during the convoy. They were allowed to protest for 3 freakin' weeks and wouldn't leave. If you think you win an argument because someone calls you out for your antics, then you clearly are deluded and have no real grasp on logic or factual discussion. Now you are just making up crap. That the goal was to prompt a violence response. Also, to get a violent response... you need people willing to engage in violence. ICE is enforcing the law. LEO routinely wears masks when executing various functions of their jobs. These are not patrol officers out on the streets, they are agents assigned to specific task forces on raids. This is pretty standard fare and not justification for violence. There is a legal process to challenge these things. And your supporting violence and justifying it while sitting here talking about reputation and being a free country is a joke. 1 Quote
Boges Posted 4 hours ago Report Posted 4 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, User said: And your supporting violence and justifying it while sitting here talking about reputation and being a free country is a joke. The stated goal is to deport 1 million people this year. It's quickly moved away from simply deporting criminals. Stephen Miller was angry that those goal aren't being met, he told ICE agents to go to Home Depot to try and snag day labourers. This is not about safety, it's about reaching a quota. So they're snatching people off the street and figuring it out later. Last week there was a report of ICE detaining a high school student that came to the country when he was 5 while he was going to a Volleyball practice. This is inhumane. If Canada was doing this, I'd be appalled. It's certainly a big reason why tourism to the US is down, and why I'm not going to be eager to give them my tourism dollars anytime soon. The US is going down a very dark path. Edited 4 hours ago by Boges Quote
Legato Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Boges said: The US is going down a very dark path. That path is well lit. Quote
Boges Posted 3 hours ago Report Posted 3 hours ago Just now, Legato said: That path is well lit. By oppressive fascism. . . Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.