Carney Meets with Trump

[WestCanMan]

Let's give CBC a chance here. 

No election coming up, so it won't hurt for them to be honest.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?mibextid=wwXIfr&v=733417939040846&rdid=c6EV5MwNRD6YEZTJ

^Trump talking about not buying any cars, steel and aluminum from Canada anymore.... Look at Carney just sit there and listen like an abused child. 

I couldn't find CBC's take on that last segment 😂

[BeaverFever]

23 minutes ago, WestCanMan said:

Let's give CBC a chance here. 

No election coming up, so it won't hurt for them to be honest.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?mibextid=wwXIfr&v=733417939040846&rdid=c6EV5MwNRD6YEZTJ

^Trump talking about not buying any cars, steel and aluminum from Canada anymore.... Look at Carney just sit there and listen like an abused child. 

I couldn't find CBC's take on that last segment 😂

It’s Trumps show, notice he goes on his rant then immediately ends the meeting before anyone else can speak. The ADHD windbag talked almost the entire time, meandering all over the map about China, Houthis, trains in California and so on.  Carney’s only job in that show was to respectfully rebut “51st state” comments and stay cool so as not to get zelensky’d and he did that. 

[Army Guy]

46 minutes ago, BeaverFever said:

It’s Trumps show, notice he goes on his rant then immediately ends the meeting before anyone else can speak. The ADHD windbag talked almost the entire time, meandering all over the map about China, Houthis, trains in California and so on.  Carney’s only job in that show was to respectfully rebut “51st state” comments and stay cool so as not to get zelensky’d and he did that. 

What i don't get is if ass kissing was the main objective here, to start negotiations , why all of the liberal rhetoric here in Canada...why not just shut up, and tell Canadians we are going to start negotiations and leave it like that....no they had to blow up their chest mouth off and act tough....for the election....

I personal think think Carney  approach was the right one, sit there shut the FU, take the lies and insults and set up another meeting soon as possible...countering trump or calling him out only gets you zelensky'd and nothing gets done....

If the US does not want our steel, aluminum or lumber lets find other markets....give them a 3 year warning and tell them your on your own....As for cars build them for Canada....bring in more european / Asian car manufacturers...to build cars for Canada

[August1991]

Make no mistake:

Mark Carney is our current federal PM because of Donald Trump.

Donald Trump chose our PM.

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How?

Donald Trump opposed "Canada" and the federal Liberals knew how to be nationalistic.

 

Edited Wednesday at 01:53 AM by August1991

[August1991]

It is easy to be nationalistic and win votes.

It is hard to win votes across many different people.

[August1991]

I met Chretien, Trudeau Snr and Mulroney. I saw them in action.

They would never have tolerated this. Said nothing.

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Poilievre would have said something.

At least, Poilievre would have reached into his pocket while Trump spoke and eaten an apple....

Edited Wednesday at 06:31 AM by August1991

[WestCanMan]

13 hours ago, BeaverFever said:

It’s Trumps show, notice he goes on his rant then immediately ends the meeting before anyone else can speak. The ADHD windbag talked almost the entire time, meandering all over the map about China, Houthis, trains in California and so on.  Carney’s only job in that show was to respectfully rebut “51st state” comments and stay cool so as not to get zelensky’d and he did that. 

As if leftist politicians aren't aware that they can interrupt other people 😂

Carney sat there like a b1tch, letting Trump run roughshod all over him. His BS "We subsidize Canada with hundreds of billions a year" went completely unchallenged.

Poilievre never allows himself to be dummied like that. That was embarrassing for Canadians, just like the previous 9 years. 

Edited Wednesday at 02:46 PM by WestCanMan

[Nefarious Banana]

Why did Carney even go there?  Wouldn't it be smarter to stay home and quietly and quickly negotiate/develop other markets for our goods.  There was no purpose to Carney's visit with deranged goof.

[Aristides]

Trump is always playing to his base, Carney knows his responsibility is to Canadians. Getting into a public pissing match with Trump over his lies won't help a long game which will be done behind closed doors by serious people. The only curb on Trump will be reality, not calling him out on his bullshit. 

Being the adult in the room is a good thing.

Edited Wednesday at 02:56 PM by Aristides

[Nationalist]

8 hours ago, August1991 said:

I met Chretien, Trudeau Snr and Mulroney. I saw them in action.

They would never have tolerated this. Said nothing.

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Poilievre would have said something.

At least, Poilievre would have reached into his pocket while Trump spoke and eaten an apple....

Oh for Gawd's sake! The carney is in Trump's pocket.

[WestCanMan]

11 hours ago, Aristides said:

Trump is always playing to his base, Carney knows his responsibility is to Canadians.

Did Trudeau know that his responsibility was to Canadians? 

In what way did that translate to success for Canadians? 

Did we ask for high gas prices? Soaring interest rates? Record low GDP growth? Soaring homelessness? Soaring crime? Did we elect him to bribe the MSM with hundreds of millions of dollars before every election? Did we ask to give Big Pharma billions of dollars for some vax injuries and a bit of fascism? Did we ask for trade wars with the US and China? Did we ask for a fake story about mass-graves all across the country with an accompanying fabrication about mass-murdered children?

How exactly did Canada profit from 9 years of Trudeau? Look around... Was Canada this shitty in 2014? If you're being honest, the answer is an emphatic "NO". 

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Being the adult in the room is a good thing.

So tell us, adult... What did Trudeau improve here? 

[West]

On 5/6/2025 at 6:48 PM, BeaverFever said:

It’s Trumps show, notice he goes on his rant then immediately ends the meeting before anyone else can speak. The ADHD windbag talked almost the entire time, meandering all over the map about China, Houthis, trains in California and so on.  Carney’s only job in that show was to respectfully rebut “51st state” comments and stay cool so as not to get zelensky’d and he did that. 

Like you didn't laugh with the exchange over the 51st state lol

[betsy]

On 5/6/2025 at 7:36 PM, WestCanMan said:

Let's give CBC a chance here. 

No election coming up, so it won't hurt for them to be honest.

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?mibextid=wwXIfr&v=733417939040846&rdid=c6EV5MwNRD6YEZTJ

^Trump talking about not buying any cars, steel and aluminum from Canada anymore.... Look at Carney just sit there and listen like an abused child. 

I couldn't find CBC's take on that last segment 😂

 

In fairness....

 

What would it gain if he butted heads with Trump?

Trump could be baiting him......

I could see Carney biting his tongue!

 

I agree that he has to pick his moment.

 

[betsy]

I'm waiting for the announcement today that UK made a trade deal with the USA.   That must be what Trump was referring to, in his meeting with Carney - that there will be a positive announcement.

What deal was struck?

 

Starmer and Trump met sometime after his inauguration.  It didn't take long for them to reach a deal.  

Hopefully, the same with Canada.

 

 

 

Edited Thursday at 11:08 AM by betsy

[betsy]

On 5/6/2025 at 9:50 PM, August1991 said:

Make no mistake:

Mark Carney is our current federal PM because of Donald Trump.

Donald Trump chose our PM.

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How?

Donald Trump opposed "Canada" and the federal Liberals knew how to be nationalistic.

 

 

I did say if Carney wins, we'll become the 51st State.   They both speak and understand the same language.  He'll make some deals with Carney.   Carney will make some deals with him.  After all, I don't think Trump actually plan to bring us so low on our knees.  But those deals won't be the kind of deals we're hoping for.

Carney isn't stupid.  He'll know when it is game over for us.

 

It's the idea of China and Canada dealing with each other, and Canada leading to far-left, is what's behind Trump's resolve to acquire Canada as a state.  And add our land mass and resources to that!  

Thus Trump sees it as a beautiful "marriage" - MERGER, in the corporate language.

I don't think Trump will budge from tariffs.   He'll apply the economic pressure.  That's how he'll get his way with us.

 

That's why he talked about,  "time.   we'll see.   takes 2 to tango.  never say never."

 

We'll feel the pain from taxes. Trump knows that.  He's already started dangling the carrot of much lower taxes to Canadians!

Two or three years from now - how will Canadians feel about becoming the 51st State?  Will we be open to discussions?

 

Edited Thursday at 11:31 AM by betsy

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, betsy said:

In fairness....

What would it gain if he butted heads with Trump?

Trump could be baiting him......

I could see Carney biting his tongue!

I agree that he has to pick his moment.

An injection of truth into that conversation was important, but Carney has skirted the truth for so long that he didn't know what to do with it. 

And since when was being weak, stupid and afraid a viable strategy? 

[August1991]

16 hours ago, betsy said:

..

It's the idea of China and Canada dealing with each other...

...

 

China? Strongly disagree.

Ordinary people in China are trading with ordinary people in Canada.

[betsy]

19 hours ago, WestCanMan said:

An injection of truth into that conversation was important, but Carney has skirted the truth for so long that he didn't know what to do with it. 

And since when was being weak, stupid and afraid a viable strategy? 

 

I agree with you.  It hurts seeing our leader looking helpless.

But, sometimes.......... you gotta push down hard and swallow the pride.

I haven't seen how Starmer was with Trump when they met, but he might've navigated very carefully too.  I'd watch it sometime.

 

 

 

 

They just signed a deal.  He scrapped the entire tariffs on their steel!

I wonder if we get similar deal in a couple of months?

 

A month after his so-called Liberation Day tariffs began to bite, Britain has now achieved a series of significant carve outs from sweeping tariffs on UK carmakers, steelworks and farmers.

 

What carve-outs has the UK secured?

The deal, which the UK government has said will save “thousands of jobs”, will see car export tariffs slashed from 27.5 per cent to 10 per cent, for a quota of 100,000 UK cars.
This, the government said, is almost the total the UK exported last year.

Mr Trump’s 25 per cent tariffs on steel will be axed entirely, while a levy on ethanol – which is used to produce beer – coming into the UK from the US has been removed entirely.

In addition to this, the two governments have negotiated new reciprocal market access on beef, giving UK farmers a tariff free quota of 13,000 metric tonnes of meat.

 

Downing Street has also said that the US has agreed to give the UK “preferential treatment” in any further tariffs imposed as part of Section 232 investigations - a process where the US government determines if certain imports threaten US national security.

 

The government has failed to secure carve outs for tariffs on pharmaceuticals and the remaining 10 per cent reciprocal tariffs imposed on Britain. The government said “work will continue” on those.

There have also been no concessions secured for the film and TV industry, after Mr Trump threatened to apply a 100 per cent levy on films made outside America, which the PM has been warned would devastate film and TV production in the UK.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/us-uk-trade-deal-beef-explained-trump-starmer-b2747429.html

 

 

 

 

 

Edited Friday at 08:33 AM by betsy

[CdnFox]

On 5/9/2025 at 1:13 AM, betsy said:

 

I agree with you.  It hurts seeing our leader looking helpless.

But, sometimes.......... you gotta push down hard and swallow the pride.

I haven't seen how Starmer was with Trump when they met, but he might've navigated very carefully too.  I'd watch it sometime.

 

 

 

 

They just signed a deal.  He scrapped the entire tariffs on their steel!

I wonder if we get similar deal in a couple of months?

 

A month after his so-called Liberation Day tariffs began to bite, Britain has now achieved a series of significant carve outs from sweeping tariffs on UK carmakers, steelworks and farmers.

 

What carve-outs has the UK secured?

The deal, which the UK government has said will save “thousands of jobs”, will see car export tariffs slashed from 27.5 per cent to 10 per cent, for a quota of 100,000 UK cars.
This, the government said, is almost the total the UK exported last year.

Mr Trump’s 25 per cent tariffs on steel will be axed entirely, while a levy on ethanol – which is used to produce beer – coming into the UK from the US has been removed entirely.

In addition to this, the two governments have negotiated new reciprocal market access on beef, giving UK farmers a tariff free quota of 13,000 metric tonnes of meat.

 

Downing Street has also said that the US has agreed to give the UK “preferential treatment” in any further tariffs imposed as part of Section 232 investigations - a process where the US government determines if certain imports threaten US national security.

 

The government has failed to secure carve outs for tariffs on pharmaceuticals and the remaining 10 per cent reciprocal tariffs imposed on Britain. The government said “work will continue” on those.

There have also been no concessions secured for the film and TV industry, after Mr Trump threatened to apply a 100 per cent levy on films made outside America, which the PM has been warned would devastate film and TV production in the UK.

 

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/us-uk-trade-deal-beef-explained-trump-starmer-b2747429.html

 

 

 

 

 

Well they've signed a deal to sign a deal. There's still details to be worked out.

But the fact is we've been under tariffs for longer and we don't seem to be any further along in negotiations, we're certainly nowhere close to where england is. But when starmer came he also came with an invite from the king which trump honored and went back and talked to the king.

Obviously Stormer came with an agenda and a clear goal in his mind and that made the difference. Carney came and had nothing particular to offer, nothing particular to say, nothing to grab the attention and no goal that he was attempting to achieve. And it showed

It wasn't zelensky bad obviously but it wasn't very good.

[WestCanMan]