Carney & Monarchy: Clueless

[August1991]

Carney has invited Charles III to open our parliament.

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We are facing a guy like Trump who looks at real numbers.

Carney, you care about symbols.

 

[August1991]

I met Ignatieff. He was a decent person.

Carney? Never met the guy.

I am told that he's difficult uh ambitious.

[August1991]

Carney clearly married up.

[SpankyMcFarland]

Monarchs based abroad that we share with other countries are not ideal. Their loyalties are divided. Two examples. Firstly, our head of state hasn’t visited in fifteen years. Secondly, the UK head of government, desperate for a trade deal with Trump, won’t let him support us openly. 

[Army Guy]

Yes August but at least we get along....

[August1991]

On 5/5/2025 at 8:13 PM, Army Guy said:

Yes August but at least we get along....

I met Charles - large nose. (I also met Chirac, a smoker.)

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I'm surprised about Carney's obsession with the British sovereignety.

Harper is surely jealous.

 

[CdnFox]

On 5/3/2025 at 10:08 PM, August1991 said:

Carney has invited Charles III to open our parliament.

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We are facing a guy like Trump who looks at real numbers.

Carney, you care about symbols.

 

I would imagine that carney was hoping to showcase our connections to and ties to Europe, but as you say I think it will fall completely flat with trump. It's a little too subtle

A bigger concern is how Quebec is going to take it. Apparently they're none too happy. Right now every move they make has got to be considered against the backdrop of unity

[Nationalist]

Elbows Up...lol.

[Michael Hardner]

On 5/4/2025 at 1:08 AM, August1991 said:

 

We are facing a guy like Trump who looks at real numbers.

Carney, you care about symbols.

 

Are you still holding on to the idea that Trump is actually smart? 

He told Carney that Canada doesn't do much business with the US, didn't he? 

Carney is a career banker, and Trump is a career Carnival Barker. 

You have this exactly backwards

[ExFlyer]

9 hours ago, August1991 said:

I met Charles - large nose. (I also met Chirac, a smoker.)

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I'm surprised about Carney's obsession with the British sovereignety.

Harper is surely jealous.

 

What obsession??

The Governor General who is the King/Queens representative has to give the throne speech. This time, the King was invited and he accepted. The GG does not need to "represent" as the King will be here in person..

 

Edited 19 hours ago by ExFlyer

[Aristides]

11 hours ago, August1991 said:

I met Charles - large nose. (I also met Chirac, a smoker.)

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I'm surprised about Carney's obsession with the British sovereignety.

Harper is surely jealous.

 

The King is our head of state. His function as King of Canada is completely separate from his function as King of the UK. It's clearly spelled out in our constitution. Same as Australia and New Zealand. It's odd and it's unique but having a non political head of state, separate from government is a good thing in my opinion.

Having Charles open Parliament will send a reminder to Trump and Americans how we are different and why. 

Edited 18 hours ago by Aristides

[Legato]

Just imagine the nuclear fallout from the usual suspects if Poilievre had invited Charles.

There would need to be a 25 mile no go zone around this board.

[blackbird]

On 5/3/2025 at 10:08 PM, August1991 said:

Carney has invited Charles III to open our parliament.

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We are facing a guy like Trump who looks at real numbers.

Carney, you care about symbols.

 

Perhaps you don't understand having a King is more than symbols.

We have a Constitutional Monarchy which gives the King certain powers.   He is there as an unelected monarch which is different than the American system, where the elected President is the head of state.  Our King doesn't have to spend too much time thinking about politics while the President is a central political figure.  Everything must be geared to politics.

Because the King is also King of other countries that is actually an advantage, not a problem.  It means we have a special relationship with those other countries.  They are kind of sister or brother countries, or allies if you wish.

If we were not a Constitutional Monarchy, I think there is a good chance we would already be part of the U.S.  We might not be an independent country.  Being a part of this Constitutional Monarchy does command a certain degree of respect from other countries.

[ExFlyer]

On 5/4/2025 at 2:20 AM, August1991 said:

Carney clearly married up.

married up?? To what and to whom?

 

 

Edited 16 hours ago by ExFlyer

[ExFlyer]

51 minutes ago, Legato said:

Just imagine the nuclear fallout from the usual suspects if Poilievre had invited Charles.

There would need to be a 25 mile no go zone around this board.

Why?

Harper invited the Queen to Canada.

[CdnFox]

43 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Why?

Harper invited the Queen to Canada.

Not to read the throne speech. Thats' a bit different. 

The liberals invited a nazi to parliament.  

[ExFlyer]

58 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Not to read the throne speech. Thats' a bit different. 

The liberals invited a nazi to parliament.  

Ha Ha Ha. It is an honour to have the actual King of Canada to read the Speech from the Throne.

What a dolt you are. Canada is honoured.

 

 

[CdnFox]

40 minutes ago, ExFlyer said:

Ha Ha Ha. It is an honour to have the actual King of Canada to read the Speech from the Throne.

Not for quebec.  They get very very upset about it.  
And his victory came at the expense of the bloc and strong quebec support. This is a serious slap in the face to them, right after Blanchet said "you owe quebec". 

 

[ExFlyer]

4 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Not for quebec.  They get very very upset about it.  
And his victory came at the expense of the bloc and strong quebec support. This is a serious slap in the face to them, right after Blanchet said "you owe quebec". 

 

Liberals win another seat...no matter from who, they won. Better than the conservatives did LOL

You will never get over it and the space I occupy in your head...rent free will keep on letting you know it.

Like it or not LOL.  LOSER!!!!

[herbie]

Good God, pretending to be Conservatives and belittling the King's reading of the Throne Speech. It's a goddam honour for us and for the King to do on his first showing in Canada.
It's also a thunb to stick in Trump's eye to show we're not some 51st state candidate.

Imagine that - a head of state with a sense of decency, duty, and honour rather than accepting bribes of jet planes, wanting to rid habeas corpus, belittling universities, and demanding nations bend to his will. Who's the real King and who's the tyrant?

Edited 13 hours ago by herbie

[Aristides]

Smart move on Carney's part. The first time the Monarch has opened parliament since the seventies. What a contrast to the orange buffoon down south.

[CdnFox]

7 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Liberals win another seat...

Still a minority?  Hmmmmm. Must sting a bit.

So... that doesn't really have anything to do with what we were talking about. We were talking about the monarch and quebec?  Did you forget? 

Look man, you have to stop crying about the election at some point. There will be more elections down the road, you can't be this sad all the time!

[CdnFox]

2 hours ago, Aristides said:

Smart move on Carney's part. The first time the Monarch has opened parliament since the seventies. What a contrast to the orange buffoon down south.

This makes no sense whatsoever. They don't have throne speeches in the states Largely because they don't have a throne. And I guarantee you it would tick off a hell of a lot of Americans to have the English monarch read one if they did. They fought a bit of a war over that

And why is it a smart move? Like I said it's alienating a lot of Canadians at a time when unity should be our biggest Factor. Quebec is going to hate this, and there are anti-sovereign forces outside of Quebec that don't believe we should be part of a monarch  . Trump isn't going to understand the symbolism, he's not even going to watch it.

So in what world is spreading more divisions in Canada at this particular moment in our history a smart move?