Time for Western separation

[taxme]

18 hours ago, cougar said:

It is also possible that the exact opposite is true.  Maybe it is the conservatives who are too stupid to learn that jobs do not equate with oil and gas, mining and logging jobs only.

Their anti-environment position has become widely known to the Canadian public and with that they have become the dinosaurs of the past.   

It may be time to just scrap the party, change its name, send its supporters to another planet and such.

It is the wacko environ"mental"ists that have destroyed projects that could have created tens of thousands of jobs in all sectors. It is hard to believe that there are still dummies like you around that think that we are in a climate crisis where there is no crisis. 

So, where in your world have you personally seen any kinds of climate crisis happening? Probably nowhere. Well? 

 

[taxme]

6 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Ha, that day has come and gone at least 3 times now. I lived in Alberta one of those oil boom crashes when Alberta was broke and the Feds bailed them out. Ha

We get it, you don't like Carney but, PP lost and there ain't $hit you can do to change that.

No, you will not be glad for th enext 4+ years. You will keep whining like the proponents of the trucker debacle.

Suck it up buttercup...you backed a LOSER LOL

For once Alberta got some money from Canada for a change. Poor Alberta for having a commie for a resident like you. 

But Alberta is going to do something about it now. Alberta may even be able to separate one day. I can only hope that happens. 

No i will not be happy alright. It will be four more years of WEF globalist communism in Canada and being fed more woke bullshit, more government, more taxes, less freedom, and massive 3rd world invasion just for starters. Thanks arse hole for your service at phkn up Canada for good. Alberta controls the country and the purse strings now. When Alberta has their referendum for separation, and they should win this time, this will be the end of communist Canada for good. 

If Alberta separates, i will be the big winner, and you will be the sore loser, comrade. It will be the end of communist Canada for good. You had better suck it up yourself, comrade. 

GO, ALBERTA, GO. Works for me. 🤣

[ExFlyer]

1 minute ago, taxme said:

For once Alberta.....

Works for me. 🤣

Boo Hoo LOL

[Nefarious Banana]

14 hours ago, cougar said:

The answer would be obvious - manufacturing jobs and services.

A transplant from a 3rd world sh!thole . . . doesn't like anything that creates employment and economic stability in Canada posts the above drival.  Service what?  Manufacture what?   

[West]

1 hour ago, taxme said:

For once Alberta got some money from Canada for a change. Poor Alberta for having a commie for a resident like you. 

But Alberta is going to do something about it now. Alberta may even be able to separate one day. I can only hope that happens. 

No i will not be happy alright. It will be four more years of WEF globalist communism in Canada and being fed more woke bullshit, more government, more taxes, less freedom, and massive 3rd world invasion just for starters. Thanks arse hole for your service at phkn up Canada for good. Alberta controls the country and the purse strings now. When Alberta has their referendum for separation, and they should win this time, this will be the end of communist Canada for good. 

If Alberta separates, i will be the big winner, and you will be the sore loser, comrade. It will be the end of communist Canada for good. You had better suck it up yourself, comrade. 

GO, ALBERTA, GO. Works for me. 🤣

It's sad. Usually when the head coach, in this case Trudeau's Liberal Party, benches a highly productive player because the coach is a hot head and has a big ego this doesn't go well for the team. 

Sadly Team Canada has been dysfunctional because of the Liberal Party's irrational behavior 

[taxme]

On 5/2/2025 at 6:39 AM, betsy said:

No.

 

And I think, even those who are anti-Trump here.....will think twice, if indeed income tax is abolished in the USA!  They might even be the first ones in line at the gate! 😁 

Talk is cheap!

Pay your tax (which undoubtedly will skyrocket).............or, don't pay tax on your income.

 

Lol - no competition! 🤣

Trump knows what he is talking about, and you do not. Trump wants to abolish income tax, taxes on tips, taxes on overtime and no taxes on social security. That alone should want all conservatives desire to join America. I know that i am ready to join America. 

Why would i want to live in a failed and bankrupt country when the lieberals are in power. Taxes will go up. Government will get bigger. Woke bs like trans and gender, pronouns nonsense. Massive 3rd world invasion that will surely bankrupt Canada in the next few years.

Canada is finished and we might as well face it. Canada is not worth fighting for anymore now that the corrupt and lying and thieving lieberals are back in power. Go, Alberta, go. 😁

[herbie]

Get it through your fat heads - Alberta is NOT going to separate. If the mad cow Danielle even authorized a referendum it would be the end of her party and normal Conservatives would return. Same for Mr Moe next door.
Use your heads, both provinces are too geographically f*cked to succeed as independent nations.

[eyeball]

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

 Not sure what you mean by fraction of what we used to harvest. What are you talking about?

We creamed the best of the easiest forests where I live, what's left is mostly harvested by machines with one operator instead of a  crew 7-8. Fishing is just a shadow of what it used to be.

You can bet the best ore deposits have similarly been mined and high-graded.

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

I never said there is some big new resource renaissance on the horizon. 

Politicians are sure talking it up. What did you think all this talk of unleashing the resource sector was about?

8 hours ago, blackbird said:

Read what I just posted.  PM Carney sounds like he is going to do some things to develop our economy, but I am not sure exactly what he means.   He has a history of supporting Trudeau's anti energy industry policies.  Guess we will see what he does.  So far he has said little or nothing about what he will change.

Well sure, all politicians promise the moon when they're campaigning so yeah, it's a good question.

But as far as a resource rennaiscence goes that's pretty much what many Canadians have been told to expect. Where have you been?

[Nefarious Banana]

10 minutes ago, eyeball said:

We creamed the best of the easiest forests where I live, what's left is mostly harvested by machines with one operator instead of a  crew 7-8. Fishing is just a shadow of what it used to be.

You can bet the best ore deposits have similarly been mined and high-graded.

Politicians are sure talking it up. What did you think all this talk of unleashing the resource sector was about?

But as far as a resource rennaiscence goes that's pretty much what many Canadians have been told to expect. Where have you been?

Forests are re-newable.  There's some 2nd growth 4+ feet at the stump.  I've logged some quarters twice.  Don't light your hair on fire over most progressive logging practices.

Get the bank to bank nets out of the rivers.  On land fish farms only. Out of season fishing by a segment of the population.

Resource sector industry is what pays the bills.  

[eyeball]

22 minutes ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Forests are re-newable.  There's some 2nd growth 4+ feet at the stump.  I've logged some quarters twice.  Don't light your hair on fire over most progressive logging practices.

Get the bank to bank nets out of the rivers.  On land fish farms only. Out of season fishing by a segment of the population.

Resource sector industry is what pays the bills.  

It certainly paid lots more in the past. We had self-loading barges being hauled out at the rate of one a month for years around here. All of it was old growth. That's a lot of jobs that were exported.

We took too much too fast without much thought given to future needs, it's just that simple.

Sure it's renewable but I remember loading out trucks with only 5 or 6 logs on them. I don't think they let very much 2nd growth get to 4' at the butt judging by all the truck loads of toothpicks I see on the road.

In any case now we're surrounded by parks, protected areas, treaty lands. They never reopened what was once one of the biggest iron mines on the planet. I guess someone said the word union and that was all she wrote. That was back in the 50's.

 

Edited 23 hours ago by eyeball

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

creamed

Well I've flown over the coast and there are huge areas of untouched forests.  Government should stop preserving every area they can find.  Let companies log it.

[eyeball]

41 minutes ago, blackbird said:

Well I've flown over the coast and there are huge areas of untouched forests.  Government should stop preserving every area they can find.  Let companies log it.

Sure and for every person who says that there's another who'll say the opposite.

It's not a very scientific means of assessing the reality but that's okay. Will anyone in the next age of unleashing care any more than people cared in the ones that came before?

All I know for sure is that there used to be 250 or more loggers employed virtually year round hereabouts and now there's about 10, and most of them go to some camp elsewhere. It takes a couple of years now to fill a barge that used to take a month or less to fill.

Where there were once anywhere from 250 to a 1000 boats, 9 fish plants, three fuel docks, plus repair-shops, boatyards and so on. Now there's just 2 plants, a couple dozen boats and everything else is so hollowed out and dwindling we might lose the last fuel dock.

Like I said, creamed. Forests, fish, minerals, the easiest and best of everything has already been taken. And don't forget it's like this all around the world now.

So yeah, what resource sector renaissance?

We've got tourism but of course that depends on people who can afford to be tourists so...fingers crossed. If we run out of them it'll just be par for course I guess. It'll probably also be a good indication the renaissance ain't going so great elsewhere.

Edited 21 hours ago by eyeball

[blackbird]

1 hour ago, eyeball said:

So yeah, what resource sector renaissance?

Ask the BC NDP and the federal Liberals why they blocked all kinds of resource sector projects.

There are all kinds of minerals in the ground across BC and Canada and the north that haven't been touched yet.

There is even oil under the sea off Haida Gwaii that hasn't been touched.  Perhaps the BC NDP and federal Liberals are opposed to touching that too.  I imagine many FNs on the coast will oppose drilling for oil in the sea for whatever reason.  Maybe if they are promised some benefits from it they will agree.   That's usually the way it works.

 

[West]

https://financialpost.com/news/economy/gary-mar-mark-carney-unlock-canadas-potential-start-with-the-west

Here's an opinion piece from Gary Mar making some of the same arguments about western industry being a driver of economic success as this thread

[CdnFox]

16 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

Ha, that day has come and gone at least 3 times now. I lived in Alberta one of those oil boom crashes when Alberta was broke and the Feds bailed them out. Ha

When was that? The feds never bailed Alberta out. At best they ever gave them was a tiny bit of relief, but they sure as crap never bailed them out

More and more you wind up looking like a 15-year-old who's full of Fibbery.

[betsy]

Lol - Libs are going batshit unhinged in the other site.  I'm getting accused of treason! 😁

 

Just shows you how far downhill we've come when it comes to free speech.

Edited 11 hours ago by betsy

[ExFlyer]

16 hours ago, taxme said:

For once Alberta got some money from Canada for a change. Poor Alberta for having a commie for a resident like you. 

 

It was the third time the oil bust needed help from the feds.

Alberta crying it does not get anything and then, when it has monumental oil busts and gets help, it shuts up for a few years LOL

[ExFlyer]

15 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

A transplant from a 3rd world sh!thole . . . doesn't like anything that creates employment and economic stability in Canada posts the above drival.  Service what?  Manufacture what?   

The only reason anything went top"3rd world sh!thole" to be made is because if made here we could not afford it.

[ExFlyer]

7 hours ago, CdnFox said:

When was that?....

Phuck, you are one dense fool.

[ExFlyer]

9 hours ago, West said:

https://financialpost.com/news/economy/gary-mar-mark-carney-unlock-canadas-potential-start-with-the-west

Here's an opinion piece from Gary Mar making some of the same arguments about western industry being a driver of economic success as this thread

[blackbird]

The best way to deal with serial trolls is to put them on the IGNORE LIST.   Just click on you pseudonym on the top right corner and you will find it.

[blackbird]

14 hours ago, eyeball said:

15 hours ago, blackbird said:

Well I've flown over the coast and there are huge areas of untouched forests.  Government should stop preserving every area they can find.  Let companies log it.

Eyeball says:

Sure and for every person who says that there's another who'll say the opposite

Sure, we know the school kids are being brainwashed by the woke NDP as they control the school agenda with their SOGI 123 curriculum.   So what Greta Thunberg thinks is all that matters.  Shut down resource development, abolish capitalism, and embrace Socialism.  That's their insane ideology.

Self destructive.  We could end up as a Venezuelan basket case, paying 50 bucks for a loaf of bread or a litre of gas.

Edited 7 hours ago by blackbird

[ExFlyer]

16 hours ago, Nefarious Banana said:

Forests are re-newable.  There's some 2nd growth 4+ feet at the stump.  I've logged some quarters twice.  Don't light your hair on fire over most progressive logging practices.

Get the bank to bank nets out of the rivers.  On land fish farms only. Out of season fishing by a segment of the population.

Resource sector industry is what pays the bills.  

It is only the indigenous that can net the rivers.

15 hours ago, blackbird said:

Well I've flown over the coast and there are huge areas of untouched forests.  Government should stop preserving every area they can find.  Let companies log it.

It all looks good from 30,000 ft LOL

You conservatives gotta get on the ground LOL

[ExFlyer]

2 hours ago, blackbird said:

The best way to deal with serial trolls is to put them on the IGNORE LIST.   Just click on you pseudonym on the top right corner and you will find it.

There ya go again...any time someone slaps you in the face with reason and facts, you cry troll.

It seems to me the troll is you

[WestCanMan]

2 hours ago, ExFlyer said:

It is only the indigenous that can net the rivers.

Should they be doing that? Shouldn't they just be using their own traditional fishing methods?