Boycott Auto Companies That Move Production From Canada

[Zeitgeist]

Honda has announced that it’s buckling under pressure from Trump and moving production of its SUVs from Canada to the U.S.   We must remember the companies that do this and stop buying their products.  

[Aristides]

37 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

Honda has announced that it’s buckling under pressure from Trump and moving production of its SUVs from Canada to the U.S.   We must remember the companies that do this and stop buying their products.  

They say they are considering it. Time will tell if it is for real or just a contingency plan. 

[Zeitgeist]

6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

They say they are considering it. Time will tell if it is for real or just a contingency plan. 

The Canadian auto market represents a significant amount of sales for these companies.  Caving into Trump and throwing Canadian workers under the bus is totally unacceptable and must be countered by harsh public boycotts.

Honda, you are being watched by Canadians.  

[Aristides]

10 minutes ago, Zeitgeist said:

The Canadian auto market represents a significant amount of sales for these companies.  Caving into Trump and throwing Canadian workers under the bus is totally unacceptable and must be countered by harsh public boycotts.

Honda, you are being watched by Canadians.  

I agree, the Canadian market is almost 2 million vehicles a year. Not being built in the US will be a requirement if I ever go shopping for a new car. Both my current vehicles were built in Germany and should last me another ten years with the mileage I put on them. Who knows, by then I might not be driving. 

[Zeitgeist]

6 minutes ago, Aristides said:

I agree, the Canadian market is almost 2 million vehicles a year. Not being built in the US will be a requirement if I ever go shopping for a new car. Both my current vehicles were built in Germany and should last me another ten years with the mileage I put on them. Who knows, by then I might not be driving. 

People forget that the auto industry grew up on both sides of the border simultaneously.  It was always both Canadian and American. Oshawa’s McLaughlin, the maker of autos by the same name became incorporated into GM as Buick.  He became a VP of GM. Rubber for tires came out of Bowmanville.  Cutting Canada out of auto manufacturing is like cutting one of your children out of your will.  It’s unfair and causes resentment.

Edited April 15, 2025 by Zeitgeist

[herbie]

4 hours ago, Aristides said:

They say they are considering it

As I'm considering a RAV4 over a CRV if they do....

[Barquentine]

Just because companies are promising to invest huge amounts in the US doesn't mean they will. And some of this goes on all the time anyway. But building factories , moving production - these things take years. Trump's only got 3 1/2 (we hope). So the can placate him now, let him brag about it, then do what's in their best interest later. Taiwan in particular was smart to do this - they might need US protection soon.

[CdnFox]

They are not considering it.

Turns out that news report was false. Honda has come out and said that it is considering investing in a new Factory in the united states because they want 90% of their American-Sold vehicles to be made in the united states. The Canadian Factory is running at 100% capacity and cannot make any more Vehicles so it's a question of where they're going to put their new Factory and they are considering putting it in the united states because that's currently where they're selling more cars.

Now realistically I'm not sure we can be entirely furious with them for building the factory where the customers are. But they have confirmed that absolutely no operations will be moved from Canada to the united states. The current factories are producing at 100% capacity and will remain to do so

[TreeBeard]

The only way to combat this will be an auto pact with China.  

[Aristides]

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/business/company-news/2025/07/09/nissan-suspends-us-production-for-three-models-for-canadian-market/

So the Canadian market is lost to those US based production plants.

[paxamericana]

On 4/15/2025 at 8:53 AM, Zeitgeist said:

Honda has announced that it’s buckling under pressure from Trump and moving production of its SUVs from Canada to the U.S.   We must remember the companies that do this and stop buying their products.  

Nobody cares what Canada thinks or buy. There’s not enough of you to matter in the first place. Remember, America first and always. 

[paxamericana]

On 4/18/2025 at 10:23 PM, TreeBeard said:

The only way to combat this will be an auto pact with China.  

To achieve what? The Chinese don’t care about Canada. They just want to get into the US through NAFTA. Canada and Mexico is a stepping stone for them. You’ll just get banned like the Chinese from American markets for good.

On 4/15/2025 at 10:04 AM, Zeitgeist said:

People forget that the auto industry grew up on both sides of the border simultaneously.  It was always both Canadian and American. Oshawa’s McLaughlin, the maker of autos by the same name became incorporated into GM as Buick.  He became a VP of GM. Rubber for tires came out of Bowmanville.  Cutting Canada out of auto manufacturing is like cutting one of your children out of your will.  It’s unfair and causes resentment.

And? What are you going to do about it?

[CdnFox]

33 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Nobody cares what Canada thinks or buy. There’s not enough of you to matter in the first place. Remember, America first and always. 

Well that's not what your states are saying, and they're kind of going broke

And fact is you can't get by without our oil or a minerals or our metals etc

Well you can give us some thought during the upcoming recession   

[paxamericana]

59 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

Well that's not what your states are saying, and they're kind of going broke

And fact is you can't get by without our oil or a minerals or our metals etc

Well you can give us some thought during the upcoming recession   

Yeah, that's why we're considering annexing Canada. What did you think we would just not take your stuff because you're old and defenseless?  It's you not me, you forced our hands. In order to secure America's growing land and ensure prosperity for our people, I here by declare Canada as a US unincorporated territory. All anti-american Canuks will be deemed enemy of the state and labled as a terrorist organization. 

Edited July 11, 2025 by paxamericana

[Army Guy]

35 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Yeah, that's why we're considering annexing Canada. What did you think we would just not take your stuff because you're old and defenseless?  It's you not me, you forced our hands. In order to secure America's growing land and ensure prosperity for our people, I here by declare Canada as a US unincorporated territory. All anti-american Canuks will be deemed enemy of the state and labled as a terrorist organization. 

Think about that for a minute...why in the blue balls would you want a,majority of liberal voters added to you long list of American problems, and to top it all of we are almost broke, you have to invest trillions just to break even....trust me give it 10 years and canada will sell you the entire kit and kaboodle for cents on the dollar....

we force your hand...WTF you gladly gave us the keys to the vault and said help yourselves....you buy most of our oil at some of the lowest prices on the globe...., a large chunk of our electrical grid, most of our minerals , and other resources...you guys did that instead of investing into your own country....you let us walk in and told us to have as much as we could carry....thats on you guys....no one forced you to buy our sh!t....Now if you had said Canadians were to lazy and depending on only one trading partner i would agree....but don't blame any of this on Canadians, this was an American decision to allow American industry to leave the country...and like us here in Canada we are all paying the price for allowing our industry to leave becasue stuff is cheaper in china.......

[CdnFox]

48 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Yeah, that's why we're considering annexing Canada. 

But can't. At the end of the day Donald's a p***y. He talks stuff and he's fine as long as nobody's pushing back but the reality is even though he wants Canada he's not willing to come and get it and has said so.

We'll adapt. At the end of the day having the US is nice but it's not necessary. Plenty of other people that want our materials and oil and electricity

[paxamericana]

45 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But can't. At the end of the day Donald's a p***y. He talks stuff and he's fine as long as nobody's pushing back but the reality is even though he wants Canada he's not willing to come and get it and has said so.

We'll adapt. At the end of the day having the US is nice but it's not necessary. Plenty of other people that want our materials and oil and electricity

What world did you wake up in that didn't involve American Security umbrellla. How would you sell said material and oil without American naval permission? Canada can't survive without the US don't delude yourself. News flash, there's no one else to buy Canadian raw material. Everyone is aging out, they're not looking to buy a brand new house or car that those material are needed for, we're all deglobalizing. The biggest market is the US.  https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/10/business/canada-tariff-trump

 

47 minutes ago, Army Guy said:

canada will sell you the entire kit and kaboodle for cents on the dollar

As I've said before, first it would start with Alberta and Saskatchewan. Once those two provinces are annexed. The rest of Canada will fade into irrelevance forcing them into a choice of remaining un-annexed and third world or joining the states.  

Edited July 11, 2025 by paxamericana

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

What world did you wake up in that didn't involve American Security umbrellla.

Everyone's looking at moving away from that. It'll be the European security umbrella we'll participate in that fully. America will become less and less relevant. And at the end of the day nobody's going to attack Canada, they're going to attack America at Americans interests in America we'll have to defend itself but now I don't think they can count on all of the other nations joining in to help the way that they did for Afghanistan or Iraq or any other American wars. America is going to become considerably weaker.

Fun fact, did you know 50% of all of the nickel in American Military systems comes from Canada? And military hardware uses a lot of nickel

 

[paxamericana]

10 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

America will become less and less relevant

Not happening. We're the only developed country of scale that has a healthy demographic. You and many other canucks on this forum are not in your early twenties. Most of you i assume are close to retirement if not already. You don't buy as much stuff because you don't need it anymore. It's no accident that your provinces do more business with America than with each other. 

[CdnFox]

1 hour ago, paxamericana said:

Not happening. 

You're too late, it already is. For American fighters and will be sourcing them in europe this talking to you about other weapons systems, Europe is gearing up and moving away from American support and technology, there's talk of new security apparatus and information sharing that doesn't include america, we're already going in that direction.

Every empire has its time and then it comes to an end for one reason or another. America's had a good run, we're probably beginning to see its twilight days. But it's not like everything's going to end tomorrow, no need to panic

[paxamericana]

8 hours ago, CdnFox said:

You're too late, it already is. For American fighters and will be sourcing them in europe this talking to you about other weapons systems, Europe is gearing up and moving away from American support and technology, there's talk of new security apparatus and information sharing that doesn't include america, we're already going in that direction.

Every empire has its time and then it comes to an end for one reason or another. America's had a good run, we're probably beginning to see its twilight days. But it's not like everything's going to end tomorrow, no need to panic

Not sure what you're trying to imply but we are headed into a multipolar world with sphere of influence. Canada clearly belong to the American sphere of influence and all of the Americas for that matter. Europe will probably see a Franco German sphere . The middle east will most likely fall into some remnace of the old Ottoman empire. As for East asia, it's probably the Japanese if I had to guess. South East asia will be more Indonesian and for south asia it's India. 

So buying a Euro fighter won't helpl you. Canada is attached to America, like it or not you don't have any choice in the matter. 

[CdnFox]

33 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

Not sure what you're trying to imply but we are headed into a multipolar world with sphere of influence.

There's nothing implied there. I out and outstated my position there wasn't anything subtle about it.

And it would appear that Canada is beginning to leave America's fear of influence. It was actually been low-level talks about the possibility of joining the EU. The feeling is if Americans aren't trustworthy and can't keep their word then we'd be better off looking at alliances with others.

Trump is isolating America. There aren't going to be spheres of influence with America there's just going to be America standing on its own and becoming less relevant.

Some will argue that that's a good thing for you guys.

As for europe nothing much is changing there. The EU countries will still do their thing and militarily the UK will continue to work with them, developing new weapons and tech, and between them all their military spending will be greater than the us's.  Canada appears poised to participate in the EU weapons purchases and development. 

Trump appears to believe in isolating the USA and that is precisely what is happening. The usa will be less and less relevant.  And like i said theres a number of people who think that's great, that the us shoudln't be the 'world police' and shouldn't be projecting power outside of it's borders so much and should be focused at home. 

[paxamericana]

53 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

militarily the UK will continue to work with them, developing new weapons and tech, and between them all their military spending will be greater than the us's.  Canada appears poised to participate in the EU weapons purchases and development. 

Trump appears to believe in isolating the USA and that is precisely what is happening. The usa will be less and less relevant.  And like i said theres a number of people who think that's great, that the us shoudln't be the 'world police' and shouldn't be projecting power outside of it's borders so much and should be focused at home. 

No, I actually think the Brits are coming along, though they're stubborn. The American friends and family plan include, Austrailia, Newzealand, UK, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Most of Latin America. 

[CdnFox]

18 minutes ago, paxamericana said:

No, I actually think the Brits are coming along, though they're stubborn. The American friends and family plan include, Austrailia, Newzealand, UK, Canada, Japan, South Korea, Most of Latin America. 

Yeah now they're all moving away from it.

In many respects it's kind of crazy. You would have thought that trump would want to leverage America's dominance in that respect but if anything he's woken people up to the fact that we shouldn't rely on a country that can't keep his word. I mean he's literally breaking the hell out of I trade agreement that he himself drew up only five or six years ago. And America seems fine with that. Obviously Americans have no sense of honor or their word means nothing to them. As a country anyway, I'm sure that individually there are some Americans somewhere who believe that their word should be worth something

But instead trump is ruining America's credibility on the global scale and making America less and less relevant every day. Now like I say, there are a number of people who would argue that that's a great thing and that should continue And fair enough, there's an argument to be made there I suppose. I'm just surprised to see trump driving it in that direction.

[paxamericana]

8 minutes ago, CdnFox said:

But instead trump is ruining America's credibility on the global scale and making America less and less relevant every day. Now like I say, there are a number of people who would argue that that's a great thing and that should continue And fair enough, there's an argument to be made there I suppose. I'm just surprised to see trump driving it in that direction.

These things need to work themselves out. Inducing an economic recession in those countries is what Trump will leverage before long term agreements are hashed out. The old testament came before the new, quite literally the oldest story in the book.